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Old 04-10-2012 | 10:04 PM
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......fully respray a daily driver??

Owned my frs for nearly 5 years, still love it. It's done 114k and still drives like new. The paintwork needs a little tlc, would you just put up with it, or get the car done?

Bear in mind car is a daily driver. The mileage is high but it's only had 2 owners, have all the history and I really can't fault it. Been thinking of a wrap but I reckon fresh paint will look better
Old 04-10-2012 | 10:18 PM
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I would give mine one if I could afford it yes, its not technically worth it financially, but is it ever? So, if you can afford it, go for it!
Old 04-10-2012 | 10:33 PM
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Yes and if I can afford it next year I will be doing
Old 04-10-2012 | 10:36 PM
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Yeah on an frs certainly as their still pretty valuable cars.
Look to spend around a grand on a decent job, not saying it can't be done cheaper but it should be right at that money.
Look at examples of work rather than reputation alone as some people's opinion of "mint" is different to others.
Old 04-10-2012 | 10:40 PM
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I'd also get the clear vinyl done as well to protect the paint if funds allowed.
Old 04-10-2012 | 10:41 PM
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You paint and decorate your house now and then to keep it looking nice and you use that every day so I dont see reason why you cant do it to your car if you plan on keeping it....
Old 04-10-2012 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vaughant
Look to spend around a grand on a decent job, .
I take it you've never had a good paint job then?

Unless you're very lucky you'll have to go a bit higher than that IMO
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IMO a grand will only get you a quick blow over in a back street garage. Even if it is a daily driver a FRS deserves to have a nice job which will cost a fair bit more and if you ever want to sell it a bad paint job will knock ŁŁŁ's off it's value.
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Get it painted matey.You will still get stone chips no matter what.
Old 05-10-2012 | 10:14 AM
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Tough one, my M5 needs painted but i've been putting it off for ages becuase its a daily and in the real world only worth ford mondeo money. Still might get it done though
Old 05-10-2012 | 11:43 AM
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cheers for the input guys, as for a Grand paint job, i wouldnt get that round here, would budget 1500-2000 for a good one.

i know i would never get the money back but i feel it might be worth it. as it stands i could probably get Ł6k for it private, but a paintjob wont add any value (or would it)

the only reason i will sell it is if funds allow me to get a mk2 RS next year.
Old 05-10-2012 | 12:07 PM
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Before you go down the route of painting, have a look at the ACTUAL condition of the paint and see if it can be polished back to good by a detailer or someone maybe?

For example, my other halfs daily driver Golf when we got it






After a day with the mop, some compunds and a little wet sanding








And that is all original 20 year old paint. There were loads of scratches and marks in the paint before and were all gone afterwards.

Might be worth a try before you go down the route of repainting (and having to use crappier waterbase paint compared to the OEM stuff).
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I wouldn't as it would piss me of to much when gets marked again in asda
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If it was mine I would get it painted mate, daily driver or not I would still want it looking mint
Old 05-10-2012 | 01:19 PM
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I would say if you are definitely planning on keeping it then go for it by all means!
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
I take it you've never had a good paint job then?

Unless you're very lucky you'll have to go a bit higher than that IMO

Yes mate I used to own a paintshop and a grand should get you a good job,but it's as long as a piece of string as to what you want done or what your expectations are.
I notice the op is in London so that does command a premium but if your on about putting Ł2k into a daily in London then no don't bother.
Better off putting the 2k towards an already mint one that you can get back in the future.
I've seen "so called" good jobs that cost Ł2000 that we did for Ł600 but then also I saw a Ł700 paint job once that was totally flawless, I couldn't get over it,it hadn't even been cut and polished at that time,there was no dust under the paint or runs etc,sheen was perfect.
The car still looks spot on now,so as I said above,see examples of their work rather than just "he's the most expensive so must be the best" attitude.

Some photos of the areas that need attention would be beneficial.
Old 05-10-2012 | 01:47 PM
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[QUOTE=iansoutham;6057324]



And that is all original 20 year old paint. QUOTE]

It might be just the picture but that rear 1/4 looks like its been resprayed to me lower down as its flatter towards the top of the pannel and the doors are flatter too.


To OP, you need to weigh up your options and if your thinking of selling it next year to get a mk2 FRS then your only throwing money away now that could go towards the new purchase. If you're going to keep it and a good mop will not bring it up to a good standard then have it painted but its a bit of a gamble as you don't know exactly how its going to turn out and if it turns out crap then you've wasted your money and got a big headache to get it sorted and try and get some money back (which you will likely not succeed at). This would also devalue the car!

So, I'm all for a respray but think about it long and hard first.
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Originally Posted by phil_focus


To OP, you need to weigh up your options and if your thinking of selling it next year to get a mk2 FRS then your only throwing money away now that could go towards the new purchase. If you're going to keep it and a good mop will not bring it up to a good standard then have it painted but its a bit of a gamble as you don't know exactly how its going to turn out and if it turns out crap then you've wasted your money and got a big headache to get it sorted and try and get some money back (which you will likely not succeed at). This would also devalue the car!

So, I'm all for a respray but think about it long and hard first.
some sound advice there thanks. the damage to the paintwork is as follows:

front bumper lip cracked (usual chin problem with FRS)
front bumper stone chipped
front bonnet, paint marks, bird shit 'ate' away at the paint....(have tried polishing out)
drivers door, chunks of laqcuer missing
rear bumper has had corner blow in thats starting to show its age.

maybe dont need a full paint job, so might get a detailer to do a wetsand, but pretty sure the 2 bumpers, doors and possibly bonnet WILL need paint.
Old 05-10-2012 | 04:18 PM
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As long as your not changing the colour then a simple blow over shouldnt cost more than a grand. its not like its going to need stripping down to a bare shell with all the glass and panels removed and refit etc etc!
We have had bare metal over under in and out spray jobs done for 2k.

So yes i would definately have it done if its starting to look a bit 2nd hand.
Old 05-10-2012 | 06:27 PM
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As already stated if it won't polish out i'd get it done. If it's a car that you're still happy with then why not and you never know you might not get the Mk2 FRS. Obviously you won't get all your money back when you sell it but you might get some back and it would make it easier to sell.
Old 06-10-2012 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by brad
As long as your not changing the colour then a simple blow over shouldnt cost more than a grand. its not like its going to need stripping down to a bare shell with all the glass and panels removed and refit etc etc!
We have had bare metal over under in and out spray jobs done for 2k.

So yes i would definately have it done if its starting to look a bit 2nd hand.
would you not get a better job if you removed panels etc?? i dont know any bodyshops so have no idea of the process involved??

i thought i would get it dont through a detailer, they must use bodyshops? i thought i would leave it in his hands, then he can get the paintwork done on the panels that require it and the detailer can then correct the rest??

sound like a good idea?
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If your talking about getting bumpers, doors and bonnet done you may aswell just paint the lot. Find a decent bodyshop and look at their work.

Personally i'd want glass out etc if it was my car. I also wouldn't be expecting a good job for a grand.
Old 06-10-2012 | 10:11 AM
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You would probably pay as much if not more for a detailer to correct the issues. I very much doubt the repairs would be totally invisible as they would be trying to match new paint to old.

I was once told that with metallics you have to keep the gun angle the same and that spraying everything at the same time gives the best results due to the way the metallic flakes/particles lay. It might be a different story now with the new style wb paint but i would guess the principles are still pretty similar?.

I had my dark met blue Range Rover done when i first got it and the process was something like this:-
remove the bumpers and all rubbers trims etc that were either bolted or stuck on.
some sort of plastic wire looking stuff behind the rubbers to lift them
flatted/keyed all paintwork
a foam strip behind every opening gap and everything else masked
hit it with colour and then laquer (2k) and baked
wet flat and polish
refit bumpers and trims

They had it for 4 days and it came out looking better than new and nobody would ever know it wasnt original unless i told them or they removed the rubbers and used a machine to measure paint thickness.
I paid Ł1400 as i wanted grilles, light guards and bumpers prepped and painted body colour and obviously its a fairly big car.

Just my experience mate but i wouldnt hesitate to have the same thing done again on my next car.

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Old 06-10-2012 | 10:22 AM
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Id machine polish it up, then see what your working with, itl be cheaper to get a few bits resprayed than the whole of the car. You can wet sand bird bomb marks out of the paint as ive done many a time.
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Originally Posted by whitenoise
Id machine polish it up, then see what your working with, itl be cheaper to get a few bits resprayed than the whole of the car. You can wet sand bird bomb marks out of the paint as ive done many a time.
There are about 16 different shades of blue used on the frs, what are the chances of getting it spot on and not seeing that odd panels have been painted?
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Originally Posted by brad
There are about 16 different shades of blue used on the frs, what are the chances of getting it spot on and not seeing that odd panels have been painted?
yup.....you can see it when you go to ND or ford fair and see the RSOC stand, all those cars lined up, all different shades of blue
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