potential new car to replace the supra ......
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potential new car to replace the supra ......
well i broke the supra for parts it was a hard decision but id rather loose a little now than a lot later so it had to go.
been super busy with stripping the supra and harvest but im in talks about my next car.
ive set my budget to £20k so an r35 is out the window for now.
ive already got an r32 gtr as a daily and i love it so dont want to ruin that by tuning it shes sweet and reliable at 460 hp.
r34 gtr again out of budget so r33 gtr it is, ive missed the gtr awd system from day 1 of getting the supra so will be good to get that back.
so i found this so far
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4145976.htm
i am arrangeing to view it, its potentially exactly what im after.
i want something late 1990s ideally a v-spec with working air-con and stock interior so its still comfortable.
i want some carbon dress up for the first time so its a good base for that, the wheel colour i hate but i would get them carbon dipped.
power is 150 hub hp shy of the supra but if it lays it all down 0 - 100 should still be the same or quicker than the supra.
i have a bay shot also that i got from the seller
just need to check it out now but if its in good health i will be buying it.
been super busy with stripping the supra and harvest but im in talks about my next car.
ive set my budget to £20k so an r35 is out the window for now.
ive already got an r32 gtr as a daily and i love it so dont want to ruin that by tuning it shes sweet and reliable at 460 hp.
r34 gtr again out of budget so r33 gtr it is, ive missed the gtr awd system from day 1 of getting the supra so will be good to get that back.
so i found this so far
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4145976.htm
i am arrangeing to view it, its potentially exactly what im after.
i want something late 1990s ideally a v-spec with working air-con and stock interior so its still comfortable.
i want some carbon dress up for the first time so its a good base for that, the wheel colour i hate but i would get them carbon dipped.
power is 150 hub hp shy of the supra but if it lays it all down 0 - 100 should still be the same or quicker than the supra.
i have a bay shot also that i got from the seller
just need to check it out now but if its in good health i will be buying it.
Last edited by scoooby slayer; 01-09-2012 at 05:39 PM.
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That looks pretty damn sweet! Buy it!!
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Mate really don't see what ur gaining apart from the 4wd the rb 26 lump isn't known for its reliability wear cams badly bad oil ways spin bearings in Australia and Japan newzealand they throw the 26away and put the supra engine in
Oh just to add you've already had one bad time with the dick who built the supra lump so stay away from junk that abbey have built if you stuck on one speak to ron at rk turning
Oh just to add you've already had one bad time with the dick who built the supra lump so stay away from junk that abbey have built if you stuck on one speak to ron at rk turning
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Mate really don't see what ur gaining apart from the 4wd the rb 26 lump isn't known for its reliability wear cams badly bad oil ways spin bearings in Australia and Japan newzealand they throw the 26away and put the supra engine in
Oh just to add you've already had one bad time with the dick who built the supra lump so stay away from junk that abbey have built if you stuck on one speak to ron at rk turning
Oh just to add you've already had one bad time with the dick who built the supra lump so stay away from junk that abbey have built if you stuck on one speak to ron at rk turning
all tuners have built a bad un includeing rk tuning mate.
i would hapily use mgt racing, abbey or rk tuning, i love the rb26 not as torque as a 2jz but still awesome in its own right.
any engine will be unreliable if its not built correctly, the supra was a prime example the best of the best components and it trashed the bottom end in no time, i dont know what but some thing was massivly flawed in the engine build. my rb26 wasnt a big budget build just a stock crank, stock rods with forged wiseco pistons 7800 rpm all day long not a problem, much the same as my current r32 except my current one is stock sump and oil pump hence not going over 460 hp with it and 7500 rpm limit, i try to not pass 7k rpm.
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that does look nice other than the colour wheels and spoiler.
whilst i appreciate its cheaper to buy one with all the mods done already, can you not buy a shell and get your own motor built? when you bought the Supra ,because of who built the engine i had a feeling it wouldnt last - i just dont want you going down the same path again
whilst i appreciate its cheaper to buy one with all the mods done already, can you not buy a shell and get your own motor built? when you bought the Supra ,because of who built the engine i had a feeling it wouldnt last - i just dont want you going down the same path again
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I've to agree with jay on this mate soz
I'm sure it's a very good car but I'd be very weary
Best buying a good standard car and building it your self IMO
But all the best with what u do all the same.
I'm sure it's a very good car but I'd be very weary
Best buying a good standard car and building it your self IMO
But all the best with what u do all the same.
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that does look nice other than the colour wheels and spoiler.
whilst i appreciate its cheaper to buy one with all the mods done already, can you not buy a shell and get your own motor built? when you bought the Supra ,because of who built the engine i had a feeling it wouldnt last - i just dont want you going down the same path again
whilst i appreciate its cheaper to buy one with all the mods done already, can you not buy a shell and get your own motor built? when you bought the Supra ,because of who built the engine i had a feeling it wouldnt last - i just dont want you going down the same path again
a 1997 gtr v spec is decent money anyways for a tidy one, then all the carbon which i want alot of it is already done, stack dash again something ive wanted for a while, i couldnt build a car to that spec for anywhere near £17k as a clean stock v spec will be 8 - 10k anyways.
i am hopeing to have the lump borescoped and get a compression test done, if all is good and oil pressure is good i will buy it.
thats the other reason behind only haveing a £20 budget to purchase the car, i have a nice size purse to spend on it to if needs be
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the wheels i hate to in blue, the spolier though is a genuine mines r34 gtr spoiler with mines uprights worth a few pennys.
a 1997 gtr v spec is decent money anyways for a tidy one, then all the carbon which i want alot of it is already done, stack dash again something ive wanted for a while, i couldnt build a car to that spec for anywhere near £17k as a clean stock v spec will be 8 - 10k anyways.
i am hopeing to have the lump borescoped and get a compression test done, if all is good and oil pressure is good i will buy it.
thats the other reason behind only haveing a £20 budget to purchase the car, i have a nice size purse to spend on it to if needs be
a 1997 gtr v spec is decent money anyways for a tidy one, then all the carbon which i want alot of it is already done, stack dash again something ive wanted for a while, i couldnt build a car to that spec for anywhere near £17k as a clean stock v spec will be 8 - 10k anyways.
i am hopeing to have the lump borescoped and get a compression test done, if all is good and oil pressure is good i will buy it.
thats the other reason behind only haveing a £20 budget to purchase the car, i have a nice size purse to spend on it to if needs be
just be careful
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ive done alot of background checks and its an owners club car since import
it last sold in 2006 to the current owner was on a bigger turbo back then, the new gt4094r has only done 1800 miles since abbey motorsport fitted it and mapped it.
i found a much better pic of it when the wheels were gold
some info i found
1997 R registration (on private plate at the moment)
Silver
Engine:
HKS Pistons
Trust Rods
Trust 2.7 Crank
Nismo bearings
HKS Cam Shaft 268/272 intake and exhaust.
HKS Cam pully wheels
Trust big capacity oil sump
Ported & polished head
Tomei Head stud kit
HKS 1.4mm head gasket
Wise oil catch tank/washer
Trust oil cooler
Trust water pump
Trust oil pump
Trust Pulley complete Red Set
Greddy T88 34D single turbo kit
Trust external wastegate
HKS s/s exhaust manifold
GReddy downpipe
Denso 1000cc injectors
2 R-34 GTR fuel pumps in tank
HKS Fuel Pressure Regulator R model
Greddy high flow fuel rail
Greddy Spark plug #9
HKS F Con (BNR 32 type) ECU (Is not F-Con ***8211; its an
EPROM)
Flow meter Z-32 type (Large)*2
Exhaust All Stainless steel custom
2 x HKS EIDS-Pro (Electronic Idle Stabilizer)
Greedy Profic B Boost controller with remote steering control
HKS Flow Meter Control Module
Transmission:
OS Giken uprated gear kit
Trust heavy duty Central cover plate
Clutch OS Giken R3C
Quick Gear shifter Nismo
Cooling:
Greddy/Trust Intercooler SPL drag (4 core)
Wise 3 core radiator
Trust radiator cap
Suspension:
Ohlins fully adjustable coilovers
Ohlins springs
Auto Refile Front stablizer
Rear Refile rear stabilzer
Mines upper link
Mines lower arm
Mines front upper arm
Medori company trans bearing link
Medori aluminium rear members bushing
Medori company Lower tension load member
Medori company Rear pillow control arm
Cusco front strut brace
Cusco rear strut brace
Bodywork:
Border carbon fibre bonnet
Ganador carbon fibre mirrors
Border carbon fibre front splitter & diffuser
Nismo side skirts
Nismo rear bumper
Mines carbon fibre R34 rear spoiler
Mines carbon fibre spoiler stands
Mines carbon fibre additional blade
Mines carbon fibre rear wind trap
Nismo clear indicator lenses
Border carbon fibre front grill
Wheels & Tires:
Volk Racing CE28N 19" by 9.5"
Bridgestone 275/35/19 tyres
Brakes:
Alcon Grex front 355mm 4 pot
Alcon Grex rear 320mm 4 pot
Gauges and Monitors:
Sard Stack display system
GReddy 60mm boost gauge
GReddy 60mm oil temp gauge
Speed meter rpm and 400m/ speed Apexi
Air flow monitor system HKS
The car obviously has a Cat1 alarm & also has a UK CD headunit. All the climate controls have been relocated to the glove box
The car has done 9900 odd miles & currently is SORN'd in my garage. It doesn't have an MOT right now, but this is something that can be sorted.
In terms of specification, it is one of, if not the most 'complete' R33 GTR's in existance I believe & is gorgeous
It was a well known car in Japan, having run numerous low 10 second 1/4 miles & some top speed bits.
it last sold in 2006 to the current owner was on a bigger turbo back then, the new gt4094r has only done 1800 miles since abbey motorsport fitted it and mapped it.
i found a much better pic of it when the wheels were gold
some info i found
1997 R registration (on private plate at the moment)
Silver
Engine:
HKS Pistons
Trust Rods
Trust 2.7 Crank
Nismo bearings
HKS Cam Shaft 268/272 intake and exhaust.
HKS Cam pully wheels
Trust big capacity oil sump
Ported & polished head
Tomei Head stud kit
HKS 1.4mm head gasket
Wise oil catch tank/washer
Trust oil cooler
Trust water pump
Trust oil pump
Trust Pulley complete Red Set
Greddy T88 34D single turbo kit
Trust external wastegate
HKS s/s exhaust manifold
GReddy downpipe
Denso 1000cc injectors
2 R-34 GTR fuel pumps in tank
HKS Fuel Pressure Regulator R model
Greddy high flow fuel rail
Greddy Spark plug #9
HKS F Con (BNR 32 type) ECU (Is not F-Con ***8211; its an
EPROM)
Flow meter Z-32 type (Large)*2
Exhaust All Stainless steel custom
2 x HKS EIDS-Pro (Electronic Idle Stabilizer)
Greedy Profic B Boost controller with remote steering control
HKS Flow Meter Control Module
Transmission:
OS Giken uprated gear kit
Trust heavy duty Central cover plate
Clutch OS Giken R3C
Quick Gear shifter Nismo
Cooling:
Greddy/Trust Intercooler SPL drag (4 core)
Wise 3 core radiator
Trust radiator cap
Suspension:
Ohlins fully adjustable coilovers
Ohlins springs
Auto Refile Front stablizer
Rear Refile rear stabilzer
Mines upper link
Mines lower arm
Mines front upper arm
Medori company trans bearing link
Medori aluminium rear members bushing
Medori company Lower tension load member
Medori company Rear pillow control arm
Cusco front strut brace
Cusco rear strut brace
Bodywork:
Border carbon fibre bonnet
Ganador carbon fibre mirrors
Border carbon fibre front splitter & diffuser
Nismo side skirts
Nismo rear bumper
Mines carbon fibre R34 rear spoiler
Mines carbon fibre spoiler stands
Mines carbon fibre additional blade
Mines carbon fibre rear wind trap
Nismo clear indicator lenses
Border carbon fibre front grill
Wheels & Tires:
Volk Racing CE28N 19" by 9.5"
Bridgestone 275/35/19 tyres
Brakes:
Alcon Grex front 355mm 4 pot
Alcon Grex rear 320mm 4 pot
Gauges and Monitors:
Sard Stack display system
GReddy 60mm boost gauge
GReddy 60mm oil temp gauge
Speed meter rpm and 400m/ speed Apexi
Air flow monitor system HKS
The car obviously has a Cat1 alarm & also has a UK CD headunit. All the climate controls have been relocated to the glove box
The car has done 9900 odd miles & currently is SORN'd in my garage. It doesn't have an MOT right now, but this is something that can be sorted.
In terms of specification, it is one of, if not the most 'complete' R33 GTR's in existance I believe & is gorgeous
It was a well known car in Japan, having run numerous low 10 second 1/4 miles & some top speed bits.
Last edited by scoooby slayer; 01-09-2012 at 07:53 PM.
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Looks a monster, I actually like the wheels, but not the spoiler
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i did mate i bought that car with my heart, i had to have it , it was awesome and i loved it and i havnt lost much that much money on it so im ok with it but i would NEVER buy another car from jdm garage that is for sure, i will be doing a much more in depth inspection of this one on my ramp hopefully.
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Just a random thought, have you thought about getting a car imported? But using an exporter in Japan? Bit more effort, but considering some of the best tuners in the world are there..
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That looks sweet and sounds like it's very well specc'd, just make sure you look at how it's been screwed together! If you buy it I hope you have much more luck than with the Supra.
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i did mate i bought that car with my heart, i had to have it , it was awesome and i loved it and i havnt lost much that much money on it so im ok with it but i would NEVER buy another car from jdm garage that is for sure, i will be doing a much more in depth inspection of this one on my ramp hopefully.
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thanks fella and i think il pass on selling the 32 for what its cost me , its not mint but to buy a car in the same genuine rebuilt condition would cost double what its cost me, you win some and you loose some it all works out in the end.
i detect some history there jay, you had a bad experience with them mate ?
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Scooby Slayer,
busting your soopra, got a thread on this as a mate has just spunked a few quid on bits and i didnt know you were breaking yours!
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busting your soopra, got a thread on this as a mate has just spunked a few quid on bits and i didnt know you were breaking yours!
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heres a list i copied and pasted from mkiv owners
so whats left is
widebody shell, rolling on hks coilovers see other thread for details
volk rays gtf 19" 10.5j +24 rear 295/30/19 r888, 19" 8.5j +21 front pirelli 245/45/19 also have a pair of 50% good pirelli 305/30/19s
one rim has a tiny bit of pitting see pics.
carbonetics 1.5 way diff 5k miles, drive shafts and recent prop SOLD
full 4.5" custom exhaust for single turbo, external gate recirc with 4 resonators this was fitted to a hks t51r kit.
jun plenum
full hks intercooler kit for single turbo 4" core
front and rear strut braces
arc cooling panel
cucso breather tank with hoses
220 mph speedo in red with a micro dynamics shift light built into rev clock
custom pro alloy water injection tank that sits in boot around spare wheel with erl pump and all hoseing
hks cam pulleys
i have 2 brand new genuine toyota sealed 2jz gte rear crank seals
starter motor
alternator
mint standard radiator
the bottom end had failed and bores are marked but theres the block has oil squirters, modified for hks 3.4 stroker with main caps/bolts with the complete sump
a full set of stock coilpacks and hks sparkplugs i changed these due to a single misfire at 6k rpm but later found a bad earth and i think they should be ok but i cant guarantee it
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i havnt ever considered it tbh but i guess its always an option.
hopefully better than the supra was lol
i am only ever honest, it is how it is i see no point in pretending otherwise.
thanks fella and i think il pass on selling the 32 for what its cost me , its not mint but to buy a car in the same genuine rebuilt condition would cost double what its cost me, you win some and you loose some it all works out in the end.
i detect some history there jay, you had a bad experience with them mate ?
hopefully better than the supra was lol
i am only ever honest, it is how it is i see no point in pretending otherwise.
thanks fella and i think il pass on selling the 32 for what its cost me , its not mint but to buy a car in the same genuine rebuilt condition would cost double what its cost me, you win some and you loose some it all works out in the end.
i detect some history there jay, you had a bad experience with them mate ?
yes mate seen and sorted a few skylines which they have had there hands on its very much roll your dice and take your chances with there work mate ! like i say if your stuck on this car get it FULLY checked by a trustworthy guy who knows these cars ! wouldnt want you to buy a lemon
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yes mate seen and sorted a few skylines which they have had there hands on its very much roll your dice and take your chances with there work mate ! like i say if your stuck on this car get it FULLY checked by a trustworthy guy who knows these cars ! wouldnt want you to buy a lemon AGAIN
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i have a ramp so i can do most of my own work, and i now use mgt racing so would probably get them to build me an engine if needs be.
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I'm not sure if that is for a good or bad recomendation but every tuner has had there failures and made mistakes, its how they deal with them what counts, any tuner that says they havnt had a failure or made a mistake is lying imo.
And don't risk more than you can afford to loose, its gonna of cost me about 6k for the supra for 3k miles but when it worked it was mental, and I'm happy I've had one and now realise for 500plus bhp awd is the only way
And don't risk more than you can afford to loose, its gonna of cost me about 6k for the supra for 3k miles but when it worked it was mental, and I'm happy I've had one and now realise for 500plus bhp awd is the only way