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Old 25-08-2012 | 06:50 PM
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Looking at ways to improve the car for 2013 and first on my needs list is an adjustable rear beam.

What options do I have?

Even better any body want to sponsor me one?
Old 25-08-2012 | 06:58 PM
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Scs beam on mine Ronnie it tottaly transformed the car !
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
Looking at ways to improve the car for 2013 and first on my needs list is an adjustable rear beam.

What options do I have?

Even better any body want to sponsor me one?


Nice looking car

Is it a regular 3 door? Or RS500?

Anyway.. There are some options for changing the rear beam to adjustable. Grp a from Escort or RS500 but then you need to change the fixing points in front of the rear beam. Escort grp a is easy to get but not the RS500 and iti is much more expenisve. The problem with the escort grp a is that it is often to wide, so you have to measure a bit! Or use other ET on your wheels. A Swiss guy has got some newly produced rear beams for escort and 3door. His name is Romaine Opligier. And runs a shop on the net. The beams look very nice and are tig welded. Adjustable rear beams are a must to get the good grip with lots of power

Good luck
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Old 25-08-2012 | 08:51 PM
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Just see mk motorsport an buy one you tite git
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Lol I'm not tight. Skint yes
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I just got mine from mark at MK
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either turbosimpsons or direct the ahmed mate

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either turbosipsons or direct the ahmed mate

what he said ^^^^^

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Say no to adrenaline beams!
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Is Adrenaline still going?!
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Originally Posted by AJC
Say no to adrenaline beams!
I have a Stage 2 Adrealine beam on my 3 Door and it's perfect.
It transformed the way the car handles, you do need it setting up properly mind.
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Old 25-08-2012 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
I have a Stage 2 Adrealine beam on my 3 Door and it's perfect.
It transformed the way the car handles, you do need it setting up properly mind.
Rich
It will be great until it bends
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Originally Posted by cossiestu
Is Adrenaline still going?!

Im not sure, i will say that i had them modify an adjustable beam i bought (4wd) to fit a 7.5 inch (2wd) diff.....must have taken them months to do it and after many phone calls i finally got it back. Checked it over - looked ok. Ive had it wrapped up at the parents garage for 3 years or so . When i came to fit it to my shell last week i find the diff wont even fit into it properly - managed to wedge it in somehow as i need the shell rolling to move it.

I wouldnt send any work their way again.


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So what are MK motorsports version like? are they made from scratch or modded original?
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Originally Posted by JamesH
It will be great until it bends
Where do they bend?
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Originally Posted by AJC
Say no to adrenaline beams!
he has gone bust
Originally Posted by JamesH
It will be great until it bends
his stage 1 & 2 were good his stage 3 tubular arms were weak.
Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
Where do they bend?
Rich
as above only the stage 3 tubular arms bent but it do not matter now as he is no longer trading .
Old 26-08-2012 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
I have a Stage 2 Adrealine beam on my 3 Door and it's perfect.
It transformed the way the car handles, you do need it setting up properly mind.
Rich
Me too mate, amazing difference it makes.
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Is modifying the rear of the car out of the question? Wrc setup?
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I removed my adrenaline beam and replaced with an Scs one. Big improvement.

It was Danny who set up my adrenaline beam too
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It's all down to cost really. I want to make the rear end as good as possible for as cheap as I can.
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Do you think ou have a problem with the rear? What's the curren setup?
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Mart
Im not sure, i will say that i had them modify an adjustable beam i bought (4wd) to fit a 7.5 inch (2wd) diff.....must have taken them months to do it and after many phone calls i finally got it back. Checked it over - looked ok. Ive had it wrapped up at the parents garage for 3 years or so . When i came to fit it to my shell last week i find the diff wont even fit into it properly - managed to wedge it in somehow as i need the shell rolling to move it.

I wouldnt send any work their way again.


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Not good...
Wondered why I'd not heard of then for a while... Didn't he do some sort of 'ladder frame' that went from front to rear somehow? Didn't know if they were any good....

Ronnie, it would be handy if AS made adjustable beams!?
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Well the stage 1 and 2 do bend. If you don't believe me, I don't really care I know I'm right. The way the arms are constructed make it weak. They bend where the fabbed arm meets the standard bush/securing point that bolts to the beam. This then gives you either horrendous toe or camber.
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Do you think ou have a problem with the rear? What's the curren setup?
The rear end could do with improvements. I'm on a standard rear beam with solid mounts a poly diff mount

Stu that would be nice if AS did them but it wouldn't hapoen
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
The rear end could do with improvements. I'm on a standard rear beam with solid mounts a poly diff mount
Change that poly diiff mount for a solid one, the beam bolts to the car at 3 points and on a race car you want them all to be solid.

Here was my poly bush after 3k road miles and one trackday:
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The company that made my diff mount do a solid bush conversion, not sure if they are all the same however but you'll want something like this:

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I'm interested in this has I want mine doing and setting also...I want the car to handle the best a 3dr chassis/ shell can...
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I wouldn't get a turbosystems beam either. I really don't think they are a true 6 degree beam, more like 13 or 14 degrees...
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Originally Posted by Marc sierra
I wouldn't get a turbosystems beam either. I really don't think they are a true 6 degree beam, more like 13 or 14 degrees...


That's something I didn't want to hear as that's where I was going to go for one and set up....


Please tell me how you come to this conclusion mate as I'm really confused who to use for a rear beam.. Corner weighted and set up ect.
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the rear beam is actually johns turbosimpsons sold through tony iirc
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To convert a standard beam to a 6 degree beam you need to move the inner mounting points forward, like Ford did using the special brackets on the RS500. The brackets on the RS500 move the inner mounting point 90 mm forwards, which makes the beam something between 8 and 9 degrees. To make the beam 6 degrees the mounting point must be moved almost 11 cm to the front.

If you look at pictures from the Turbosystems beam you can still see the old mounting points. If you look at the distance between the old and new mounting points and compare it to the size of the bolt hole (M12), I don't think the distance is much more than 34 to 40 mm. And moving the mounting point forward by 35 to 40 mm would make it more like a 13 or 14 degree beam.

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Anyone.....^^^^^
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best send john a pm Matt check for yourself
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Anyone any pics of scs rear beam?
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Originally Posted by Vegard
Nice looking car

Is it a regular 3 door? Or RS500?

Anyway.. There are some options for changing the rear beam to adjustable. Grp a from Escort or RS500 but then you need to change the fixing points in front of the rear beam. Escort grp a is easy to get but not the RS500 and iti is much more expenisve. The problem with the escort grp a is that it is often to wide, so you have to measure a bit! Or use other ET on your wheels. A Swiss guy has got some newly produced rear beams for escort and 3door. His name is Romaine Opligier. And runs a shop on the net. The beams look very nice and are tig welded. Adjustable rear beams are a must to get the good grip with lots of power

Good luck
Romain Oppliger is from Italy not Swiss, he is also on this site. I think Ronnie is after something cheaper than a grpA beam
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Its simple Ron, SCS beam all the way! Its a shame John's wasn't running for Anglesey or you know how much of a simple choice it is. Adrenaline one's are shite, they twist and use rose joints that can't be bought cheaply, not that it means they use quality bits. Just get an SCS one
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Scs Ahmed beam is the way forward trust me on this remember last October on the performance ford trackday at brands Ronnie I know I had a lot more power than you then but I did not struggle to put it down and it handles just as well on 1b tires !
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Here's John's driving in ice and snow flat out in some sections of that day. It would twist slightly when loosing grip, but not total ass out action like mine does It's a very good beam, you feel the ass end twist slightly to gain grip. Wish I had one

http://s231.photobucket.com/albums/e...t=OGWENVID.mp4

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I thought all Big Power Cossies had a decent rear beam mine is modified for the Jag diff. Chassis connectors will transform it again with Toyo 888 mine puts 800bhp down to the Tarmac no probs.
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Straight line is one thing Rod, take it around track and then be as confident about a standard beam


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