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Old 22-08-2012, 12:38 AM
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Default Modified cars soon to be illegal !!!!!

http://www.the-ace.org.uk/armageddon/

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Old 22-08-2012, 12:45 AM
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ill still be on the road police wont catch my 1.5 bar boost
Old 22-08-2012, 02:19 AM
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Raises some serious questions:
What about if standard parts are no longer available?
What about non performance mods like parking sensors or a tow bar?
Also,
How would it be enforced?
How many companies would go under as a result?
How many jobs would be lost as a result?
Old 22-08-2012, 04:43 AM
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this is not good the only standard part is my shell
Old 22-08-2012, 04:56 AM
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Absolute bollocks IMO. That means thousands of cars to the scrapper. No way a government would risk it. Think it's just that site wanting views.
Old 22-08-2012, 05:11 AM
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They have beentrying this for years with motorbike , there is a lot of prob with it one being how much cash aftermarket parts generate for the government in tax/vat and we all know how they like there money ( sorry our money )
Old 22-08-2012, 06:09 AM
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That's really bad news
Old 22-08-2012, 06:10 AM
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yeah i smell utter bullshit
Old 22-08-2012, 06:21 AM
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load of cobblers as it would lose the car market many millions each year, rules can yes we know with crafty goverment mugging us for every penny, how many cars are running round on decats for many years and its a MOT failure as is some HID headlights, where there is a will theres a way
Old 22-08-2012, 06:43 AM
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Thats in europe and yes inknow we are part of europe but we dnt follow all there laws and legislation just like we kept the Ł! Take germany sweden they are already very strict on modifying! This is all bollox and what if. This would cause a loss of millions, be a huge revolt and some may not agree with this but if we cant have a hobbie we love then what might it cause people to do eg kids with no social clubs etc go out cause trouble its same in respect all be it most of us are mature adults!
Old 22-08-2012, 06:56 AM
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I cannot see how that could possibly be enforced.
Old 22-08-2012, 07:08 AM
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Performance enhancing mods are banned in France too. The Gendamarie hated my saxo vts because they could do fuck all about it having the 4 branch and system, as it was a uk/nireland regd car.

Back to this.......what 1-pd said, the government would lose too much money abolishing mods all together.
Old 22-08-2012, 07:13 AM
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Its a load of crap. How i ubderstand it is, it's saying is all the modified stuff has to be type approved.
Old 22-08-2012, 07:32 AM
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They would have to train Police/Vosa as to whats standard and whats not,e.g. say Jap imports with standard 2.5 inch exhausts getting confiscated, where are they going to get their information for standard spec Jap imports etc. It would b e very time consuming exercise.
Old 22-08-2012, 07:37 AM
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Never be able to enforce it. Load of bollocks, it'll never happen.
Old 22-08-2012, 07:46 AM
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They come out with that load of shit every year.
Old 22-08-2012, 07:51 AM
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europe is full of know it all do gooders who pedal around on their bike drinking perrier water and eating salads and running naked along the beach, or is that just where I go on holiday , anyway bollocks to em all
Old 22-08-2012, 08:08 AM
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They've been saying this for years and it simply can't be enforced.

It's illegal to mechanically modify cars in Belgium but when I was over there for a car show owners told me it's just not properly governed/can't be so they modify them anyway.

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Old 22-08-2012, 08:16 AM
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am i right in thinking historic cars are ok ie over 30 years old ?if not anyone wanna buy a mk2 escort ha ha
Old 22-08-2012, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rs clint
am i right in thinking historic cars are ok ie over 30 years old ?if not anyone wanna buy a mk2 escort ha ha
Nope even a 30year old historic vehicle must vonform to as close too factory as humanly possible! What a load of shit.....
Old 22-08-2012, 08:39 AM
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It would put so many people out of work if this happened.

Even if it does (Which I highly doubt) then all people have to do is ignore the law. They cant arrest/confiscate them all can they?
Old 22-08-2012, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by doga-ot
Nope even a 30year old historic vehicle must vonform to as close too factory as humanly possible! What a load of shit.....
oh shit ,have to find the loopholes then
Old 22-08-2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rs clint
oh shit ,have to find the loopholes then
Buy/register a car out of the UK. Aslong as it leaves the country once every 6 months (Or 12 months, cant quite remember) it's all good.

EDIT: I'm not sure if it's Euope only now I think about it... Still, IF it happens, and if I'm right, just bung some yank plates on and register it at an adress in America. Slip the home owner a few $$$ to keep them sweet and job jobbed

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Old 22-08-2012, 08:48 AM
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I wont be held to it full stop
Old 22-08-2012, 09:47 AM
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Seems people are getting to the bottom of it now. It WON'T be illegal to modify your car, it will just mean it no longer conforms to original specifications and will require a proper IVA test - like kit cars have to go through. Basically as long as your car is built properly it will be fine.
Old 22-08-2012, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Seems people are getting to the bottom of it now. It WON'T be illegal to modify your car, it will just mean it no longer conforms to original specifications and will require a proper IVA test - like kit cars have to go through. Basically as long as your car is built properly it will be fine.
what about the snow plough (leg cutter)im fitting to the front of my escort Si ?
Old 22-08-2012, 01:10 PM
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I can't see them ever being able to enforce it to be honest so I wouldn't worry until they definitely can!
Old 22-08-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RS331
I wont be held to it full stop
You will conform like all the others that spout off on such matters. You have a family yet are prepared to risk other peoples lives it what would be an un-insured car as the mods cant be listed.
You sound like i did when the Speed limit came in, simply going to ignore it a few indorsements later i conformed or the bloke at work who was not going to stop smoking in his office, saw him frog marched out with his cards .

It sounds a good idea to me will get rid of the unsafe modded cars. Im not against mine being tested.
Old 22-08-2012, 01:32 PM
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cant be bothered to read it lol whats its about roughly?
Old 22-08-2012, 02:06 PM
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Do new Zealand already some sort of scheme like this
Old 22-08-2012, 02:13 PM
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They can go and fuck themselves!
Old 22-08-2012, 02:26 PM
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It will more likely mean all parts fitted to a vehicle will
Have to be type approved, like replacements cats are now. Which will mean all tuning parts will have to be type approved. Shocks lowering springs and brakes many are already type aproved being safety items. But it would mean things like intercoolers and hybrid turbos etc would all need to be tested. And it will be up to the presenter to prove its legit
Old 22-08-2012, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Madgit
Think it's just that site wanting views.
I bet thats exactly whats it's about
Old 22-08-2012, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
cant be bothered to read it lol whats its about roughly?
Your car will need to be fitted with tuv approved parts or it will be illegal in Germany

Nothing to do with the uk at the moment
Old 22-08-2012, 04:12 PM
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Fuck em they won't stop me
Old 22-08-2012, 04:13 PM
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Double post

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Old 22-08-2012, 04:34 PM
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Sounds like the same scary post that crops up each year and it never amounts to anything. It would cost far to much to put in place and then more money to enforce and then after all that they would lose out on their.... sorry... our hard earned tax money that they get through us buying such items.
Old 22-08-2012, 04:52 PM
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I blame Mike Rainbird and his love of TUV approal!




Old 22-08-2012, 05:01 PM
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i like all the panick but nobody has noticed that the link they post to on the EC website says "commercial vehicles" so doesnt apply to us anyway.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Notice.do?v...oadworthiness~
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I think it's a load of bollucks but I would like to see modified cars checked more thouroughly.
Fed up of seeing cars on cut springs, or people using washers to get camber.


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