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Old 21-08-2012, 09:21 AM
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Default Cosnada Failed its MOT

Well,

I'm not too gutted. It failed on:

Both headlamp alignment - sorted there and then
Fog lamp tell tale not working on switch
Both anti roll bar link bushes deteriorated
Slight weep from NSF brake line to caliper union
Exhaust too loud
Emissions too high - 7.5%

I have a spare switch for fog lamp
I have new anti roll bar links to fit complete with bushes
The brake union is a tweak, if not a new copper washer
Exhaust - just ordered a DB killer for it off the bay
Emissions - buggered! I need this thing setting up properly. It needs the fueling sorted as the exhaust is sooty and it keeps fouling plugs.

I am near Sudbury - who in the area can set this thing up for me? It has just had a new chip etc and so requires sorting. At least it is over fueling at the moment which is prefera ble to lean I guess.

It deffo needs proper mapping to get the best out of it - it only reached 20 psi of boost too. It should be 32 and trailing to 26.

I must admit though, it was awesome driving it again - I was a bit nervous lol but I can honestly say I can't wait to get it set up and use it properly.

Will I be ok driving to a mapper / tuner if I don't drive hard and on boost. Say max 60mph and no hard acceleration?

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Sadly there isn't many options available in Suffolk/Essex area...

When i needed mine setting up i drove 275miles to Motorsport Developments.

Maybe Grove Garage? They are a few miles inside the M25 along the A12.
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Originally Posted by Smit
Sadly there isn't many options available in Suffolk/Essex area...

When i needed mine setting up i drove 275miles to Motorsport Developments.

Maybe Grove Garage? They are a few miles inside the M25 along the A12.
Thinking of taking it to Joe at GSMotorsport in Romford - just over an hour away.
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Okc all the way @ gallows corner
Old 21-08-2012, 10:12 AM
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Power Engineering set mine up and have to say I was more than happy. Just off M25 at Uxbridge but I don't know how far away from you that is? Great for advice since too so highly recommended.
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whos chip is in the car matey
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
whos chip is in the car matey
MSD mate. I know you can't copy them etc (don't wish to lol) but tuners are able to adjust fuel tables etc surely? I don't fancy a 265 mile trip when it can be done nearer to home.

Joe at GSMotorsports is the preferred choice on another forum I use. The lads travel all round the country to visit him and can't praise him enough. He is old school and not into bullshit but knows how to map a YB.
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It will be encrypted so I doubt you'll be able to change anything on the chip
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yeh it is a trek lol i have done that round trip to msd lol,what about mark shead as well?or poss grove garage(romford)
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Originally Posted by JamesH
It will be encrypted so I doubt you'll be able to change anything on the chip
I know they are encrypted but does this stop you from getting your engine sorted by a different tuner / mapper? Surely not, I thought the encryption was to prevent theft - fuel table adjustments must be able to be made.
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Originally Posted by Cosnada
I know they are encrypted but does this stop you from getting your engine sorted by a different tuner / mapper? Surely not, I thought the encryption was to prevent theft - fuel table adjustments must be able to be made.

yes u can get it set up as where matey but thats about it
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
yes u can get it set up as where matey but thats about it
Thank christ for that - buy a plug 'n' play chip that needs setting up and can't go anywhere but chip author would have been crazy.

I just want my afr sorted - that can't be encrypted.
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Depends what it needs. If it does need changes to the chip, you won't be able to do it unless you go to MSD
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Why not just tweek the adjusting screw on the ecu to see if you can get the emissions down?
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Originally Posted by Cosnada
Thank christ for that - buy a plug 'n' play chip that needs setting up and can't go anywhere but chip author would have been crazy.

I just want my afr sorted - that can't be encrypted.
any good rs dealer will be able to do a set up bud
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Why not just tweek the adjusting screw on the ecu to see if you can get the emissions down?
Hi Martin, did try but not too responsive tbh. It was about 7.5% CO and thats running CL and so deffo needs looking at. As I said, exhaust is sooty and its fouling plugs too.
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Originally Posted by Cosnada
Hi Martin, did try but not too responsive tbh. It was about 7.5% CO and thats running CL and so deffo needs looking at. As I said, exhaust is sooty and its fouling plugs too.
Did you check fuel pressure? Could also be a sensor issue rather than the map, probably best to get it looked at asap.
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whatc happens if u disconnect the o2 sensor?
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Sorry it failed.Any pics of your car.I dont think ive seen it before.
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I set up the fuel pressure (it has a gauge on the fuel rail) to 3.5 bar with vac disconnected and blocked.

The base idle was set on hot engine (just pumps running) with ISCV disconnected to about 950 (best setting achieved without running / surging issues).

Swapped out to grey 403's with pintles cut right back.

Map sensor good - swapped for known good one and then swapped back again.

Fully rebuilt t34/.63 with -31 fitted (1/2 hole preload set on actuator rod).

MSD 380bhp chip fitted

Is originally a green top and so had hardware for CL and I retained this with the chip.

I have not swapped out the lambda sensor as yet.

It deffo needs setting up
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you shouyld not of blocked off the vac pipe when u disconnected it chap 3.5 bar with van pipe off and unblocked well as far as i can remember
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
you shouyld not of blocked off the vac pipe when u disconnected it chap 3.5 bar with van pipe off and unblocked well as far as i can remember
TBH Its running just over 3 bar normally so fuel delivery / pressure is not a concern.
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i would set it up right tho buddy
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Just the exhaust and the set up to do now - all other items sorted now.
Old 21-08-2012, 02:43 PM
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I wouldn't want to drive it a lot if it's overfueling bore wash can be damaging
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Don't run the engine with the O2 sensor disconnected, it will kill the sensor almost instantly. The sensor heater needs power all the while the engine is running. I killed my wideband one in the space of 30 seconds when I lost power to my gauge.
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
you shouyld not of blocked off the vac pipe when u disconnected it chap 3.5 bar with van pipe off and unblocked well as far as i can remember
It's a pressure regulator, the vac pipe makes no difference to the base pressure when disconnected.
It won't make any difference but Why would you want to induce an air leak while setting the fuel pressure by not blocking the pipe off?
You wouldn't want to block off the port on the regulator if that is what you meant?
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To the op, check your coolant temp sensor, TPS setting and check for air leaks around the inlet.
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TPS is a possibility. Will check tomorrow. Not sure why it would change tho.
Might be worth putting a new CTS in just to rule it out I guess. Usually when these have packed up it has meant bad running.

The fuel pressure must be checked with vac line off the regulator and the open pipe blocked off to prevent air leak. This is the standard procedure and the pressure should be 3.5 bar
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