Who on here has built a cossie estate?
31-07-2012, 08:18 AM
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Who on here has built a cossie estate?
Ok, after years and years of wanting a cossie estate I'm going to build one (unless someone can find one for sale 
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I know it's been done a few times, and I've searched on here using the awesome search feature
but it's not working. So, who can help me?
Basicallly I plan to make a RWD saph cossie estate, so what do I need apart from the estate and the engine/box from a cossie? I'm presuming most of the wiring is similar, but for now I'd like to focus on the mechanical side of things. I seem to recall "issues" with the rear suspension arms or something along those lines, and would the prop be the same, what about the diff and so on?
As for the front, what about the crossmember/hubs/rack etc, i was planning on leaving all the original estate stuff in there, is that possible? I realise it may be easier to buy two complete cars, but if it is not 100% necessary then there is little point.
).I know it's been done a few times, and I've searched on here using the awesome search feature
but it's not working. So, who can help me?Basicallly I plan to make a RWD saph cossie estate, so what do I need apart from the estate and the engine/box from a cossie? I'm presuming most of the wiring is similar, but for now I'd like to focus on the mechanical side of things. I seem to recall "issues" with the rear suspension arms or something along those lines, and would the prop be the same, what about the diff and so on?
As for the front, what about the crossmember/hubs/rack etc, i was planning on leaving all the original estate stuff in there, is that possible? I realise it may be easier to buy two complete cars, but if it is not 100% necessary then there is little point.
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31-07-2012, 08:32 AM
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Foreignrs had one when he lived abroad I think. Built it when he stacked his saph at the ring.
Andy Gallagher had one years ago aswell
Andy Gallagher had one years ago aswell
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31-07-2012, 09:07 AM
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Yup i was thinking that, the cossie brakes would likely not fit the the standard hubs.
I was reading about the rear setup, there will be issues with the trailing arms if I want cossie stuff but I think i can get away with just putting in the cossie diff and leave the rest the same, will have some work to do there I think, need to look into it a bit more and see what brakes i can fit to it.
I was reading about the rear setup, there will be issues with the trailing arms if I want cossie stuff but I think i can get away with just putting in the cossie diff and leave the rest the same, will have some work to do there I think, need to look into it a bit more and see what brakes i can fit to it.
31-07-2012, 09:08 AM
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There quite a few estates with turbo technics twin turbo v6 in them which run decent power. might be able find out some info about brakes and suspension on the xroc website as couple lads have estates on there.
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31-07-2012, 10:37 AM
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Hope he didn't have any dogs in the boot while on track! 
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31-07-2012, 11:00 AM
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Can only see one estate for sale on auto trader, Ł500.....
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01229479397665
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01229479397665
31-07-2012, 11:13 AM
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An old, gutless, fuel thirsty estate car, regardless of how clean, isnt very desirable. At least as a cossie conversion it'd have had a bit of an appeal as a fun sleeper.
31-07-2012, 12:09 PM
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The wiring makes no difference, as it's only the engine loom you will be interested in, Cosworth's are merely Ghia trim, it's not essential.
Yes the rear suspension on Estates is different, the shocks are "Concentric" but I am not sure if you can transfer over the conventional beam etc?
Also I am pretty sure the MK2 tunnels were all the same size, I seem to recall on the MK1 it can be an issue as only 1985 onward cars (IIRC) had the larger tunnel (Which would be when the Cosworth was conceived anyway)
Yes agree with the front, fit everything from a 2WD Cosworth, remember the cross member is unique as well!
Martin
Yes the rear suspension on Estates is different, the shocks are "Concentric" but I am not sure if you can transfer over the conventional beam etc?
Also I am pretty sure the MK2 tunnels were all the same size, I seem to recall on the MK1 it can be an issue as only 1985 onward cars (IIRC) had the larger tunnel (Which would be when the Cosworth was conceived anyway)
Yes agree with the front, fit everything from a 2WD Cosworth, remember the cross member is unique as well!
Martin
31-07-2012, 12:20 PM
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go for a late model estate that has abs and all the extras
the rear suspension, the shocks go through the springs unlike a saf where the shock is behind
if you want to fit a cossie beam, i think you would have to modd the rear inner arches aswell as add suspension turrets do to different locations
everything else will fit straight in from front back, all holes are there for intercoolers already etc
wiring doesnt matter, its 6 wires to power a loom up, but on later models the plugs are in the same place as a saf so behind battery, use the main part of a cossie connector off car loom and wire it into the multi plugs of the estate loom, job done for loom.
plus with the later shells even in 2wd form, they have the tunel and notches in chassis legs for 4wd if you ever wanted to go that way
the rear suspension, the shocks go through the springs unlike a saf where the shock is behind
if you want to fit a cossie beam, i think you would have to modd the rear inner arches aswell as add suspension turrets do to different locations
everything else will fit straight in from front back, all holes are there for intercoolers already etc
wiring doesnt matter, its 6 wires to power a loom up, but on later models the plugs are in the same place as a saf so behind battery, use the main part of a cossie connector off car loom and wire it into the multi plugs of the estate loom, job done for loom.
plus with the later shells even in 2wd form, they have the tunel and notches in chassis legs for 4wd if you ever wanted to go that way
31-07-2012, 06:31 PM
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this is mine and im going the same route. its a 2.0lt pinto efi and apart for the body work and a spax kit its standard,got a yb sitting in the garage, just need to collect all the other bits.
31-07-2012, 07:41 PM
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Ha they're all popping out the woodwork!
Yeah Sticky if you could find out mate and let me know, I'm bidding on one justnow on eBay, the idea is to keep the cost down so I'm looking for the right car at the right price as they won't be worth a whole lot complete unfortunalely. I would buy one today if I could find one!
Get it finished!!!!
Yeah Sticky if you could find out mate and let me know, I'm bidding on one justnow on eBay, the idea is to keep the cost down so I'm looking for the right car at the right price as they won't be worth a whole lot complete unfortunalely. I would buy one today if I could find one!
Get it finished!!!!
31-07-2012, 07:51 PM
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Ha they're all popping out the woodwork!
Yeah Sticky if you could find out mate and let me know, I'm bidding on one justnow on eBay, the idea is to keep the cost down so I'm looking for the right car at the right price as they won't be worth a whole lot complete unfortunalely. I would buy one today if I could find one!
Get it finished!!!!
Yeah Sticky if you could find out mate and let me know, I'm bidding on one justnow on eBay, the idea is to keep the cost down so I'm looking for the right car at the right price as they won't be worth a whole lot complete unfortunalely. I would buy one today if I could find one!
Get it finished!!!!
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31-07-2012, 09:32 PM
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i built a 4x4 yars ago,
even got 15 mondeo steel rims and trims on it, was i right laugh
had a t34 and greys, looked totaly standard
hardest part was modding te tunnel and front legs because i made it 4x4
but if your sticking with rwd then it'll all just bolt straight up(front end)
i just used the original car loom and patched in the cosworth engine loom
as for the back end, i got some coil overs made for the back to keep the original suspension
and the exhaust needed to be cut up and rewelded a bit to clear the differant suspension
but generaly realy easy to do
had it up crail couple times, used to run 12s passes, wasnt bad for a standard looking sierra estate,
should have kept it, was great fun
even got 15 mondeo steel rims and trims on it, was i right laugh
had a t34 and greys, looked totaly standard
hardest part was modding te tunnel and front legs because i made it 4x4
but if your sticking with rwd then it'll all just bolt straight up(front end)
i just used the original car loom and patched in the cosworth engine loom
as for the back end, i got some coil overs made for the back to keep the original suspension
and the exhaust needed to be cut up and rewelded a bit to clear the differant suspension
but generaly realy easy to do
had it up crail couple times, used to run 12s passes, wasnt bad for a standard looking sierra estate,
should have kept it, was great fun
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31-07-2012, 10:09 PM
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Rog surely you remember the silver cossie estate that used to go about aberdeen years ago, was an awesome car, im wanting a cossie p100, again done heaps of times but would love to build one
31-07-2012, 10:27 PM
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anybody own this one..
15-12-2012, 09:58 PM
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Go for it Rog.
17-12-2012, 11:55 AM
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I ended up buying an E36 convertible as another toy, plan is to keep that until spring and move on to another project, but lately I've been looking at E30 325's. It's difficult to get an estate in reasonable condition and a saph thats not totally buggered mechanically for reasonable money when I want to do it on a budget, after it's built thar car won't be worth a whole lot so i'm not going to go mad financing it.
Yeah I was familiar with that silver one, it was owned by a guy called Sean, then he sold it to Ben. As far as i was aware it got in a really rough state and had a minor prang, then it was broken and scrapped many moons ago.
Yeah I was familiar with that silver one, it was owned by a guy called Sean, then he sold it to Ben. As far as i was aware it got in a really rough state and had a minor prang, then it was broken and scrapped many moons ago.
17-12-2012, 12:24 PM
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Yeah I was familiar with that silver one, it was owned by a guy called Sean, then he sold it to Ben. As far as i was aware it got in a really rough state and had a minor prang, then it was broken and scrapped many moons ago.[/quote]
i used to know sean through scroggy,that was a flyer back in the day and was really clean when sean had it,always wondered what happened to that car
i used to know sean through scroggy,that was a flyer back in the day and was really clean when sean had it,always wondered what happened to that car
