oily blue smoke, turbo or rings?
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oily blue smoke, turbo or rings?
how do you diagnose if the turb's drinking oil or it's the rings?
it's a 1.4 fiesta tdci
we pulled the inlet pipework off and there was a small puddle of oil in the turbo, but there was no play, but there is a breather pipe just before there so it could be the rings and the oil in the turbo may just be as a reslut of that?
but
it doesn't smoke when it's cold on idle or when it's hot on idle
it only smokes, and it's noticable smoke, when you give it some beans when you are pulling away from a standing start or you give it some beans after it's been cruisng along, on part throttle there is no smoke at all
just after a diagnosis as he's probably going to sell the car if it's the engine but will probably keep it if its the turbo oil seal
and before the mods start getting twitching fingers, it's my brother in laws car in india so it's not a for sale ad disgused as a "my cars fucked someone buy it" post
it's a 1.4 fiesta tdci
we pulled the inlet pipework off and there was a small puddle of oil in the turbo, but there was no play, but there is a breather pipe just before there so it could be the rings and the oil in the turbo may just be as a reslut of that?
but
it doesn't smoke when it's cold on idle or when it's hot on idle
it only smokes, and it's noticable smoke, when you give it some beans when you are pulling away from a standing start or you give it some beans after it's been cruisng along, on part throttle there is no smoke at all
just after a diagnosis as he's probably going to sell the car if it's the engine but will probably keep it if its the turbo oil seal
and before the mods start getting twitching fingers, it's my brother in laws car in india so it's not a for sale ad disgused as a "my cars fucked someone buy it" post
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what ever it is, we won't be finding out the cause until at least the 20th of the month as we've got a wedding to deal with before then
bbut i've mentiong the breather thing and i've also mentioned that it's morelikely to be turbo related
but more investigation shows that:
it smokes every so lightly at idle
it smokes shedloads on acceleration
there is no noticable smoke on lifting off
there is no noticable smoke on crusing at part throttle
does that sounds any more liekly to be one or the other then?
bbut i've mentiong the breather thing and i've also mentioned that it's morelikely to be turbo related
but more investigation shows that:
it smokes every so lightly at idle
it smokes shedloads on acceleration
there is no noticable smoke on lifting off
there is no noticable smoke on crusing at part throttle
does that sounds any more liekly to be one or the other then?
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drinking oil turbo or rings
I would say turbo any oil in air intake or exhaust side apart from oil supply/return means sudden death engine will blow spectacely see You Tube, turbo/engine blow.
you can also check turbo overhalls on there as well.
you can also check turbo overhalls on there as well.
Last edited by drive me crazy; 15-08-2012 at 10:56 AM. Reason: forgot about the last sentance.
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i would have thought you could take an inlet pipe off post turbo, if its full of oil then its more likely to be the turbo pumping oil in. If they are clean as a whistle then not?
from my experience, diesels do tend to eat turbos opposed to engine components. usually because people bring them on to full boost stone cold day in and day out.
good luck with the repair though
from my experience, diesels do tend to eat turbos opposed to engine components. usually because people bring them on to full boost stone cold day in and day out.
good luck with the repair though
#18
The pipe we took off was the one that sits on the side of the turbo inlet, but I can't remember if it was the one from the filter or the one going to the inlet manifold
There was a breather pipe attached to it though so that would indicate it was before the boost kicked in right?
He's a bit busy now so it probably won't get looked out for a week or so
There was a breather pipe attached to it though so that would indicate it was before the boost kicked in right?
He's a bit busy now so it probably won't get looked out for a week or so
#20
turbo or rings
hi have you taken the breather or oil filler cap off while the engine is running ? if theres oil flipping out or smoke puffing out that means you have a lot crankcase pressure which means compression is getting past the rings .If you took it to a garage you should be able to get a compression test done for about 30 mins labour cost, or you can buy one at machine mart for about £25 and you can test your valves as well,
i dont know if its still available many years ago you were able to buy piston seal have a look around the better accessary shops , if you are constantly topping up oil i"d say rings.
sorry thought it was a petrol car getting old you know, you can still get a compression test done on a diesel but its likely to cost double ,and dont buy a tester they cant cope with diesel compression.
i dont know if its still available many years ago you were able to buy piston seal have a look around the better accessary shops , if you are constantly topping up oil i"d say rings.
sorry thought it was a petrol car getting old you know, you can still get a compression test done on a diesel but its likely to cost double ,and dont buy a tester they cant cope with diesel compression.
Last edited by drive me crazy; 16-08-2012 at 03:41 PM. Reason: made a mistake
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