http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...530233135&rd=1

never knew these exsisted apprently as the seller says might be the only one left out of the 30

 

that is VERY rare

 

still probably not worth 2k+ tho

 

lol someone has bidded 2k reserve not met either

 

i noticed that

 

I used to have one!

WAY better engine than that one with a lil turbo tho, mine had a fuckoff great thingwith external wasteghate, 7th inj, allsorts.

And was a perfect cossie rep, rather than a 50 window 4i.

Best of all i swapped it for a shoddy 205gti, then broke it for spares and made about a grand on it

 

theres also a turbo technics engine on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...959161132&rd=1

 

that is a janspeed TT and is beleved tobe the only orignal TT left in the country...

how true that is i dont know..

 

What kinda power do those push out as standard then

 

might be last one in that cond?

 

standard XR4i power is about 150bhp that is about 250bhp.

 

I don't get it, you get people spunking bids at a shonky old Janspeed 4i yet you can't give a 4i or technics 4i away. I know that are supposed to be better but it's still a turd just with more garnish.

 

chris, i know what you mean

they may be rare, but theyre still not particuarly desirable...

bit like the minkers... they just arent worth the money they should be becasue nobody seems to want to spend £££ on an XR4x4 at the end of the day...

 

oh i dunno, I have to say just from scoobs experiences with the 2.8 janspeed he's got and the 2.8TT he had the janspeed was way better, especially when running 18psi through the fooker certainly a better engineered than the turbo technics variant.

BTW all Janspeeds used external wastagates using rotomaster turbo's Single turbo Janspeeds aren't too hard to find, the real reare one were the tiwn turbo 2.8's.

As for it being worth over 2k, well that's the buyers perogative, at the end of the day you spent more on a 24v GLS jim persoanlly i'd rather have a Janspeed XR4i

Rob

 

yes, and that actually proves my point... how many other people would have been willing to part with that much money for my car? very few...

its the sort of thing that only appeals to a select few

 

What point? you said it werent worth 2k, I just think it's a bit rich from someone who like you said has bought a car that appeals to a few

"well that's the buyers perogative"

 

Also those wheels alone will apeal to a few, not saying they're worth 2k and although not 16" I guess a few S1 owners would like 'em for there data post reps pmsl

and those 16" rims go for serious money

 

I don't see how the Janspeed is -so- much better engineered than the turbo technics kits. From what I have seen they are pretty a naff looking conversion. But then I guess it's the functionality that counts and the kit in question.

I think they are just something people aspire to because of their cherished rarity. A bit like the turbo technics kits were once. You get people raving on about them, then people get them and realise it's just old shite. Old shite you can't find parts for.

 

But chris there's nothing on them you can find parts for or replace with better parts, seriously.

I think the biggest point to make about janspeeds is the relocated battery to make way for the turbo, it just goes to show how TT made a compromise with the design of the manifold. Janspeed also modifided the sump for the crossover pipe to go more directly to the turbo rather than round the back of the bell housing. Scoob's Janspeed was worked on and maintained by TT in northampton for many years (however this is a long time ago) so it was never and issue getting stuff

the engine is an engine, no different to yours really, other than that it's still MFI so i dont understand what so hard to get replaced.

I've been if Scoob's 2.8 TT kit running his old low comp lump with 12psi and its was ok, I've been in ramrods of TT200 which was running less than half the boost and that was sweet, so smooth a nd a loverly car. the janspeed however, the turbo spools up much better and ok was running considerably more boost (but only 6-7 psi more still) was something else.

Dont get me wrong both are good especially in RWD format but to say Janspeed is crap compared to TT or overated is ludicruos. however that's not to say TT's are shite!

Rob

 

I'm not saying the Janspeed kits are crap compared to the TT ones, I think they are both just as crappy and old as each other. Well ok, the Janspeed is less crappy.

I struggle enough to find parts for the TT kits, silly things like the cross-over pipes, exhausts, intercooler and plumbing so I can't imagine how much of a ball ache it must be on the Janspeed cars.

 

Have got one of these my self but was lucky as the previos owner had just spent
£800 on a new stainless steel exhaust!

Have not had a chance to drive it yet as fuel distributer is leaking

 

well i'm coming from a different skool of thought, intercoolers are a in and out job nothing complex about that, could make one from almost anything fit scoob had a copy of his exhaust made from scratch in stainless, same can be done with the cross over. if you have a pattern pipes can be easily bent to shape

if you get in the position where you have something like a cracked turbo manifold and cant be welded then you maybe up shit creek without a paddle however it's still workable, plenty of people out there will make a turbo manifold as good for some cash, and possibly not as expensive as you'd think, just depends how much work you'd want to do yourself.

on a 4i if you dont have PAS (however if located on the passenger side like the capri i doubt it would ba an issue anyway) it would be easy to fit a cossie rad and fit a suitable off the shelf cossie IC, with a small amount of jiggery pokery. all you may have to do is find a pipe bender to make a 2 new pipes and then use joiners

99% of the time it's case of finding some where local that can do this work, you'd be surprised who you can find just by opening the yellow pages and it doesnt have to be someone who specialises in cars

Rob

 

rob, but replcing these parts kinda takes away the whole rareness / janspeedness which is why theyre desirably... bit like trigger's broom with 12 new brush heads an 17 new sticks

 

Lol @ that only foold and horses Quote, Nice one

 

it was an example and an extreme one at that, plus janspeed turbo's arent that rare! to a non car enthuasiast who once heard of one perhaps but when you walk and talk XR4's they seem a lil less rare And personally I dont see what's special about the intercooler, they werent anything particulary special, just quite large and i "think" had janspeed stamp or enscribed on them somewhere that you couldnt see. I'd chop it in for something better myself as I doubt it'll be as efficient as it was 15-20 years ago the janspeed used shitty micro dynamics ignition retard module which to be fair was prolly acceptable in the 80's when the kit was first produced but it's somewhat dated now.

Personally i find many dont find the janspeeds that desirable as they've not got a strong connection to turbo's people dont associate them with it cos they were once company that builds exhausts down in andover! and then went bust and restarted! Turbo Technic's is far more of a household name when talking to enthausiasts. Of either variants if you want something rare you'd source the 2.8TT twin turbo kit or the janspeed twin turbo, now those were rare!

Rob