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Old 24-02-2005 | 10:45 PM
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As much as it's hyped up to be a very prolific and highly succesful law and criminal sciences university.....has anyone actually been, whether that be a visit or actually having taken their degree there?.....pm me or reply here if you have any experience of it. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Its a long way to go for an open day to come back shaking my head....lol

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Old 24-02-2005 | 10:52 PM
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the University of Glasgow is the best IMO

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Can't go that far north mate....Ive heard a lot of good things about Glasgow, but they excel in other courses that aren't what I'd like to do....luckily for me or Id be spending days of my life on trains getting to and from, lol
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Never go to a university with only 1 syllable, it's just not right.
Think Oxford, Cambridge and Bradford.
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jabba....
I am applying to Oxford for definate, as the course is impeccable.....but Keele has a more suited Law with Criminal science course....that not many uni's do, possibly Keele, Bristol, UCL, Cardiff, etc....dependant on course reviews and open days etc.
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I looked at Law at various Unis.

Never went to Keele though.......... too far.....
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my friend does law and criminology at leeds. cant fault it - very high standard of teaching as shes in her final year looking at a 1st!! i been to see her and its a nice place too - good campus!
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Ye Rich, Thats my only issue lol....
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Enjoy the workload

My family are into criminal law and run a practice in London.

After seeing that side of criminal, I decided I'd stick to civil
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keele uni is near me suposed to be really good
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my sister go's no idea whether its any good though!
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Originally Posted by Katie
Thats my only issue lol....
u sure?
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What sort of career are you looking at?
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Originally Posted by TemptRS
Originally Posted by Katie
Thats my only issue lol....
u sure?
Old 25-02-2005 | 11:53 AM
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i wet 2 the general open day nt specifically 4 law tho and thought it were bit shite, im at manchester umist nw and its ace! leeds or york are meant 2 b pretty gud 4 law
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Keele Uni is about 5 minutes from my parents house, and my mum got a double 1st degree there! I've never asked her what the nightlife was like though I think they are building a new Student Union at the moment?

Seriously though, it seems a nice enough place and it is in a good area, and the local town is Newcastle-under-Lyme where i've lived my whole life, very nice place I can't really answer much about the uni itself but if you want to know anything about the area then ask away.
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A mate goes there and hates it....so much so that he drives the 3 1/2 hours to come home every weekend because he can't stand to be there!

I can't be arsed with uni anymore, hence why I'm accepting offers from unis which aren't as good, because they're near my house
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Originally Posted by Chipperx2
Originally Posted by TemptRS
Originally Posted by Katie
Thats my only issue lol....
u sure?
FLMAO
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I have some friends that go there, one does Criminology and Psychology. I have been there and I have also been to the union. It's 30mins from me. It's just like any other uni in my opinion, doesn't particular shine out or look below par. Not compared to Bangor uni anyway.
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Originally Posted by Chipperx2
the University of Glasgow is the best IMO

www.gla.ac.uk


Never knew you were a comedian aswell mate



If your coming north, get yourself to Galsgow Caledonian the proper uni in glasgow right in the centre of the city.

If your for staying down sawwf.... then i've no idea
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get yourself to Galsgow Caledonian the proper uni in glasgow
Aye mate, the proper uni for folk who can't spell


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Originally Posted by Chipperx2
get yourself to Galsgow Caledonian the proper uni in glasgow
Aye mate, the proper uni for folk who can't spell




Typo..... Honest?
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Originally Posted by MrsFrog
What sort of career are you looking at?
I've had a few thoughts within the law options....the RAF is in need of both legal officers and medics ....although generally you wouldn't think of the RAF as somewhere you'd go to post Law degree.....so perhaps that is why.

£31,850 graduate start...with a 'golden hello' type lump sum, and the possibility of sponsorship through uni.
The Medics are offered more of the sponsorship, (as in a higher number of sponsorships). I'm unsure if the RAF need more Medics than Law grads. or what. Id have thought medical grads. wouldn't consider RAF really....most want to specialise these days, much more money in it.

Only a commitment to three years service, instead of the 6. Then you can leave and start up yourself, or just switch....if you aren't enjoying it. Worth it to have a laugh at myself in an RAF officers uniform

In short, Im looking at a Law degree with applied Criminology modules
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the RAF
theres your problem
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Oxford is obviously a well respected university, however there are things you need to consider first is could you afford it? Its ok saying you can get your student loan but as rich will tell you, the books can be very expensive should you need to buy them. I bought a book for £47+ second hand. I actually couldnt get a new copy. And this is the 14th book I have bought this year for the course.

This link http://www.admissions.ox.ac.uk/courses/law.shtml tells you a bit about there course and entry requirements. I would also tell you that its not like an Ally McBeal show and requires a lot of written work and research. After you finish your law degree, if you want to practice law there is a further course you must take. People see he Barristers making big ££££` but there are over 2000 barristers out of work in belfast, and you obviously have a further exam to take to become one.

Temptrs has actually made a very valid point, this will go against you in your application. I wouldnt mention it at all to be honest.

I am currently trying to finish my law degree on a part time basis. I could go back full time but being 25 and watching students arse about does not appeal to me, I wouldnt piss on some of them if they where on fire.

If you want any help or advice on the course let me know and I can send you an old sample of work.
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Originally Posted by tonyk
I am currently trying to finish my law degree on a part time basis. I could go back full time but being 25 and watching students arse about does not appeal to me, I wouldnt piss on some of them if they where on fire.

If you want any help or advice on the course let me know and I can send you an old sample of work.
I'm in a similar position.

I didn't do law at Uni - I did History, but did History of Law subjects in my degree.

However, I wanted to do my CPE after, but decided I couldn't hack it - may still do it anyway..........

My old housemate did 3 years Law degree, then his LPC, and he's now doing his training contract at Nbarro......... but he's been 8 years studying, and he makes less than most people I know.

My best mate's girlfriend is training to be a barrister. That'll be 8 a.m. start in London, and home by 10 p.m. Horrible lifestyle.........
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Originally Posted by Ztee24
well, if you are getting into legal, make sure your clothes stay on!


i think you may need to change your identity to be honest pmsl
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Originally Posted by Ztee24
well, if you are getting into legal, make sure your clothes stay on!
Ye but just think - if she was on our side in court and she took her clothes off - providing the judge is male - we're gonna win lol .............well presuming she is ok to look at.......
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Originally Posted by RSCossieKim
Originally Posted by Ztee24
well, if you are getting into legal, make sure your clothes stay on!
Ye but just think - if she was on our side in court and she took her clothes off - providing the judge is male - we're gonna win lol .............well presuming she is ok to look at.......
no... we'd lose
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Originally Posted by TemptRS
Originally Posted by RSCossieKim
Originally Posted by Ztee24
well, if you are getting into legal, make sure your clothes stay on!
Ye but just think - if she was on our side in court and she took her clothes off - providing the judge is male - we're gonna win lol .............well presuming she is ok to look at.......
no... we'd lose


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Originally Posted by tonyk
Oxford is obviously a well respected university, however there are things you need to consider first is could you afford it? Its ok saying you can get your student loan but as rich will tell you, the books can be very expensive should you need to buy them. I bought a book for £47+ second hand. I actually couldnt get a new copy. And this is the 14th book I have bought this year for the course.

This link http://www.admissions.ox.ac.uk/courses/law.shtml tells you a bit about there course and entry requirements. I would also tell you that its not like an Ally McBeal show and requires a lot of written work and research. After you finish your law degree, if you want to practice law there is a further course you must take. People see he Barristers making big ££££` but there are over 2000 barristers out of work in belfast, and you obviously have a further exam to take to become one.

Temptrs has actually made a very valid point, this will go against you in your application. I wouldnt mention it at all to be honest.

I am currently trying to finish my law degree on a part time basis. I could go back full time but being 25 and watching students arse about does not appeal to me, I wouldnt piss on some of them if they where on fire.

If you want any help or advice on the course let me know and I can send you an old sample of work.
I've been forwarded to the oxbridge course via an advisory unit etc....
Hadn't considered it prior to then really, one of those 'oh nice uni,...now where shall I apply'....just a comparison atm....as with all the others.

In addition to Law I am also considering forensic science as I think it's absolutely fascinating....but I haven't really had chance to research that in detail as yet what with exams etc coming up in a few months...
I have the summer to really clarify in my mind the direction that I wish to take
I'm ust starting to get a few ideas together now which will hopefully lift a weight off me somewhat when everyone else is rushing to sort things out post september...

Personally no I won't mention anything that isn't asked ....like I won't mention anything else such as my lack of enthusiasm for local landmarks that would make me seem a little less of a shining example....but if somebody asks, yes of course....no drama to me...in essence a person is a whole package....
If I do not get my 4 A'S I won't apply... out of shame for not being as academically credible as I'd need to be....not for any other reason...

If somewhere actively doesn't like the candidate, then the candidate would not enjoy the uni In my opinion....so I'd rather start off on an honest footing...to avoid problems later on. I've never had any derogatory experience before (in real life now) with regard to my sites....and pretty much everyone I've known has seen them, ....a shock to them mainly because I'm not the stereotypical type to do it maybe, but never a point of conflict....
I wouldn't want to be accepted wholely on the basis that I've worked hard for 6 months but have no life experience or any other form of non book reading aspects to contribute to such an establishment.

Money shouldn't be an issue ...well....an unmanagable issue anyway. (I haven't really got any need to go to a London University, UCL etc).
I have college savings accounts etc that are released on my 18th birthday, which will obviously be kept until Autumn '06...for when I go to Uni.
I will definately get a student loan, for the pure reason that if I don't use it....it'll make it's own interest and cause no burden to me in later life....0% interest on money you haven't spent, lol.

It's not just a sudden thought of 'I'll go to uni now....' there's never been a time in my life where I've had any other consideration for my future (leaving at 16, getting a job, etc wouldn't suit me..I have no gripes with learning...so not reason to stop).

To me a degree is one of the most important things that I am able to do for myself...I wouldn't feel complete without one, I think I need the challenge to be honest.

Im going to take the LNAT .... and not make any concrete decisions until I have that....November I think that'll be, so still a while off.

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well, if you are getting into legal, make sure your clothes stay on!
Sounds like a case of Alley McBeal!!!!
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A law course at a top university could cost you up to £20000 course only (accomodation etc.. on top) and then you have your legal practice course which costs about £1500 a year after you graduate. It can be from 2 to 4 years.

I wouldnt rush into anything as you have said, but for a top university you have to apply early or express interest.

Quote "Personally no I won't mention anything that isn't asked ....like I won't mention anything else such as my lack of enthusiasm for local landmarks that would make me seem a little less of a shining example....but if somebody asks, yes of course....no drama to me...in essence a person is a whole package.... "

They wont bother about your enthusiasm for landmarks, but what they will maybe make you do is a short written exercise where they will ask you a question and depending on your answer they will let you in (depending on a levels etc..)

They asked me "do you think todays claim culture has an adverse effect on the morality of society" You had to show that you could debate and show your findings and use examples to prove your point" In the Interview after they asked what we thought the answer was, do you know what it is?
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Originally Posted by tonyk
A law course at a top university could cost you up to £20000 course only (accomodation etc.. on top) and then you have your legal practice course which costs about £1500 a year after you graduate. It can be from 2 to 4 years.

I wouldnt rush into anything as you have said, but for a top university you have to apply early or express interest.

They asked me "do you think todays claim culture has an adverse effect on the morality of society" You had to show that you could debate and show your findings and use examples to prove your point" In the Interview after they asked what we thought the answer was, do you know what it is?
I have looked into the costs quite a bit so far, collosal...but all the courses I would consider have large expenses....friends of mine aiming for medicine have spent around £2000 already going to courses/lectures/open days 200 miles away....I think I have got off quite lightly....at least my money loss starts closer to the time.....for medicine you seem to need to know you are going for it by the age of about 11 lol....the preparation some have done is absolutely mad.

The morality issue, I hope they ask me a similar question, I have such strong opinions on the claim culture.....the american influence eg
'Sue mcdonalds because im now fat' campaigns....and the claims direct style ..
'I fell over at work because I didn't look at the puddle on the floor in front of me' cases....it's changing soceity a lot...people seem to want to be compensated for every eventuality these days...every accident now has a price....

Im not sure if you had to do the LNAT on entrance? had it been introduced etc?...Seems a very good way of determining the ability of a candidate to me...law directed aptitude test....

Thank you for your input anyway hun ....
Very helpful to speak to people that have taken it recently rather than others who have been practising since the dawn of time....when hardly any of the system resembles the current one...
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