think i found my camber problem
26-02-2012, 09:36 PM
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think i found my camber problem
after alot of changing and swopping drive shafts,hubs,balljoints and shocks i think i finally think i found the problem.i decided to get the finger out and do some more measuring up,so took of the bumber and this is what i found. not to happy
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26-02-2012, 10:01 PM
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My GLSi is like this, gap on n/s between crossmember/chassis leg and light
never bumped, was all origional pannels, every mot with corect mileage with reciepts for work done, first thaught the bumper was saggy first untill i pulled it off and binned it
bit fucked off as its just had 2 genuine ford wings costing nearly Ł250 lol
never bumped, was all origional pannels, every mot with corect mileage with reciepts for work done, first thaught the bumper was saggy first untill i pulled it off and binned it
bit fucked off as its just had 2 genuine ford wings costing nearly Ł250 lol
26-02-2012, 10:10 PM
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My GLSi is like this, gap on n/s between crossmember/chassis leg and light
never bumped, was all origional pannels, every mot with corect mileage with reciepts for work done, first thaught the bumper was saggy first untill i pulled it off and binned it
bit fucked off as its just had 2 genuine ford wings costing nearly Ł250 lol
never bumped, was all origional pannels, every mot with corect mileage with reciepts for work done, first thaught the bumper was saggy first untill i pulled it off and binned it
bit fucked off as its just had 2 genuine ford wings costing nearly Ł250 lol
26-02-2012, 10:18 PM
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no,
id guess at a bent strut or hub first, whats the measurements from the floor to centre of wing arch, looking from the side (both sides, tyre pressures identical also critical)
Same measurement again from centre of front hub to same spot on centre of front wheel arch
id guess at a bent strut or hub first, whats the measurements from the floor to centre of wing arch, looking from the side (both sides, tyre pressures identical also critical)
Same measurement again from centre of front hub to same spot on centre of front wheel arch
26-02-2012, 11:14 PM
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I'm with Sean on this one. Chances of that being the cause of the camber are slim even if thats the result of previous damage. Would have been one hell of a hit and i doubt it would've been repaired.
Unless of course there are more obvious signs of heavy impact, but it looks alright in the pic other than that.
Admittedly it's late and i'm not really thinking straight but surely if the leg was at fault you'd end up with positive camber instead?
Unless of course there are more obvious signs of heavy impact, but it looks alright in the pic other than that.
Admittedly it's late and i'm not really thinking straight but surely if the leg was at fault you'd end up with positive camber instead?
27-02-2012, 12:29 AM
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check your inner wings where the strut tops sit
common problem on sierras is they bend at this point, ive had countless sierras with inner wings pushed up betwen strut and inner wing, hence the escort cosworth came with plates welded to inner and strut
but that sort of camber is quite normal for a saf i think when lowered
common problem on sierras is they bend at this point, ive had countless sierras with inner wings pushed up betwen strut and inner wing, hence the escort cosworth came with plates welded to inner and strut
but that sort of camber is quite normal for a saf i think when lowered
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27-02-2012, 12:36 AM
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check your inner wings where the strut tops sit
common problem on sierras is they bend at this point, ive had countless sierras with inner wings pushed up betwen strut and inner wing, hence the escort cosworth came with plates welded to inner and strut
but that sort of camber is quite normal for a saf i think when lowered
common problem on sierras is they bend at this point, ive had countless sierras with inner wings pushed up betwen strut and inner wing, hence the escort cosworth came with plates welded to inner and strut
but that sort of camber is quite normal for a saf i think when lowered
27-02-2012, 03:45 PM
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yeah doesnt matter if its just on one wheel
only takes a nice pot hole to bend the inner wing, id bet you be able to seea bump where its bent if it is bent
but if you have changed, hub, tca, shock and strut, thers not a lot else bar, roll bar, or strut top damage
do you have a strutbrace?
only takes a nice pot hole to bend the inner wing, id bet you be able to seea bump where its bent if it is bent
but if you have changed, hub, tca, shock and strut, thers not a lot else bar, roll bar, or strut top damage
do you have a strutbrace?
27-02-2012, 07:08 PM
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thanks glenn hopefully.
did'nt have time to do any checking today, hopefully tomorrow and yes it has a strut brace.
yeah doesnt matter if its just on one wheel
only takes a nice pot hole to bend the inner wing, id bet you be able to seea bump where its bent if it is bent
but if you have changed, hub, tca, shock and strut, thers not a lot else bar, roll bar, or strut top damage
do you have a strutbrace?
only takes a nice pot hole to bend the inner wing, id bet you be able to seea bump where its bent if it is bent
but if you have changed, hub, tca, shock and strut, thers not a lot else bar, roll bar, or strut top damage
do you have a strutbrace?
27-02-2012, 08:23 PM
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speak to someone with a bodyshop, they might have jig measurements.
only other avenue i can think of if mechanical it ok.
measurements usualy taken in diagonals IIRC, will have an ask about for ye.
only other avenue i can think of if mechanical it ok.
measurements usualy taken in diagonals IIRC, will have an ask about for ye.
27-02-2012, 09:06 PM
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If that was bent, surely Rad and IC would be slant too as they fit onto inner wing? unless mounted with spacers on side and no spacers other side to fit straight?
27-02-2012, 09:33 PM
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the chassis may be straight and the wing, lights and fitting pannels between wing and crossmember may be out giving different look of gaps,
like i said my ghia or glsi whatever it is had a very slight scraped bumper, when i took it of it looked like it had twisted chassis as the gap was twice as bad as our friends picture, i fitted new genuine wings and jigged it about moving the support braces and light fitments and it pulled right
wing position governs bonnet position and adjustable stops, so headlamp adjustment to gap the bonnet correctly moves grill position as they bolt to the lights, lower trim is clipped to the grill and again moves clearances
i think this is nowt to do with the gap the more i think about it
like i said my ghia or glsi whatever it is had a very slight scraped bumper, when i took it of it looked like it had twisted chassis as the gap was twice as bad as our friends picture, i fitted new genuine wings and jigged it about moving the support braces and light fitments and it pulled right
wing position governs bonnet position and adjustable stops, so headlamp adjustment to gap the bonnet correctly moves grill position as they bolt to the lights, lower trim is clipped to the grill and again moves clearances
i think this is nowt to do with the gap the more i think about it
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27-02-2012, 10:33 PM
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have the bolts holes elongated on the ally cradle, or can you move it over? that would be a problem!
if you can move the cradle over a fannys hair it would fix the camber problem, does the front pipe fit bang on in line etc?
5-10mm would cause this camber.
if you can move the cradle over a fannys hair it would fix the camber problem, does the front pipe fit bang on in line etc?
5-10mm would cause this camber.
27-02-2012, 11:28 PM
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torque from the 2x bolts each side, 4 in total compressing on the crossmember face keeping it against the body.
you could easily use a pilot hole and guide dowel it in place, mark with a permenant marker or tip-ex and keep checking for movement every week or so untill your happy its fixed.
if crossmembers moved it will appear to have more neg camber one side as the other will have gained posative!
does this make sense to you or have i explained it a bit shit? lol
does it seem to line up by eye with the chassis its bolted to though? i know strut gap is off.............. this would identify your wanker of a problem straight off!
you could easily use a pilot hole and guide dowel it in place, mark with a permenant marker or tip-ex and keep checking for movement every week or so untill your happy its fixed.
if crossmembers moved it will appear to have more neg camber one side as the other will have gained posative!
does this make sense to you or have i explained it a bit shit? lol
does it seem to line up by eye with the chassis its bolted to though? i know strut gap is off.............. this would identify your wanker of a problem straight off!
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11-04-2012, 08:10 PM
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up and running again thanks for all the help guys.the lads in the work shop didn't do what i wanted to do but they did pull back over a half a degree.i will sort it out myself during the winter break.got it tracked today but still pretty unsteady at high speed it was tracked under a escort 4x4 settings would this make a difference or are the settings the same.
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