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Old 04-01-2012, 12:23 PM
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And Lol @ thinking 12.4 is quicker than all evos and scoobys, you obviously dont get out much
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Originally Posted by Chip
If its specifically for the drag strip you want the extra power, just nitrous it, nothing else will come close to the gains for the money.
Lol that idea did enter my head I'll admit but quickly got threw out lol only gonna be on the strip twice a year the car is a good reliable car drove down to ford fair n that last year and hoping to do the same again this year if I fitted nos my finger wouldn't be off that button and I'd blow it up real quick lol

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Originally Posted by Chip
And Lol @ thinking 12.4 is quicker than all evos and scoobys, you obviously dont get out much
I never says all evos and scoobs I know there is animals out there I just says I have done in the past I'm not saying my car is a drag machine far from it just the fact that running just a chip and injectors done well to beat 380bhp saphs and 400bhp evos etc on the road
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
Lol that idea did enter my head I'll admit but quickly got threw out lol only gonna be on the strip twice a year the car is a good reliable car drove down to ford fair n that last year and hoping to do the same again this year if I fitted nos my finger wouldn't be off that button and I'd blow it up real quick lol
You'd have to seriously fuck up the instalation to put a YB at any significant risk with a nitrous kit.
Would test the transmission though of course.

If you only go drag racing a couple of times a year then definately better trying more conventional tuning methods though as nitrous gets expensive on the road if you use it all the time.
Old 04-01-2012, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
I never says all evos and scoobs I know there is animals out there I just says I have done in the past I'm not saying my car is a drag machine far from it just the fact that running just a chip and injectors done well to beat 380bhp saphs and 400bhp evos etc on the road
Really?

Originally Posted by pip7rs
as in the title im looking to get more power out my 4x4 cossie without gettin more lag from it spec as it is:

t34 with 63 housing
dark greens
s/s exhaust
standard 4x4 intercooler
4x4 exhaust
baileys breather kit

the car is surprisingly quick and beats cossies running geys and all your scoobs n evos etc but i just want more power without getting more lag if its possible lol thinking of 55 siemens and a chip but think am gonna need to fit a rs500 intercooler wich i know will give me lag

had the car running a 2wd exhaust manifold when i fitted the t34 but it drove shit and the lag was real bad so went back to the 4x4 and its nite and day

any suggestions are welcome if you know what i am trying to achieve
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Originally Posted by Red16
Really?



At what point in there does it say ALL? If I was looking for a childish argument I would have started my cars faster than yours thread not an advice thread so go on someone's that's looking for a debate
Old 04-01-2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
At what point in there does it say ALL? If I was looking for a childish argument I would have started my cars faster than yours thread not an advice thread so go on someone's that's looking for a debate
Originally Posted by pip7rs
as in the title im looking to get more power out my 4x4 cossie without gettin more lag from it spec as it is:

t34 with 63 housing
dark greens
s/s exhaust
standard 4x4 intercooler
4x4 exhaust
baileys breather kit

the car is surprisingly quick and beats cossies running geys and all your scoobs n evos etc but i just want more power without getting more lag if its possible lol thinking of 55 siemens and a chip but think am gonna need to fit a rs500 intercooler wich i know will give me lag

had the car running a 2wd exhaust manifold when i fitted the t34 but it drove shit and the lag was real bad so went back to the 4x4 and its nite and day

any suggestions are welcome if you know what i am trying to achieve


Hope that helps.
Old 04-01-2012, 02:12 PM
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Where's the hobnobs when you need em....
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what about water injection,and keep your cooler
Old 04-01-2012, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
At what point in there does it say ALL? If I was looking for a childish argument I would have started my cars faster than yours thread not an advice thread so go on someone's that's looking for a debate
You'd be wrong in that thread too Have a nice day
Old 04-01-2012, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Hope that helps.
Lol yeh it does never noticed lol obv came across the wrong way but hey at the end of the day it did so shit happens lol
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Originally Posted by Red16
You'd be wrong in that thread too Have a nice day
Think we all would always someone with a faster car than you lol
Old 04-01-2012, 02:21 PM
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Surly for the price and hassle of water injection it would be alot easier to just put a quality 500 cooler on..?
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it will need a good cooler to run lots of boost the charge temps can rocket when pushing a fairly small turbo to its limit.

Otherwise you end up with the act corrections removing the power you have worked so hard to get.

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Old 04-01-2012, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
Lol yeh it does never noticed lol obv came across the wrong way but hey at the end of the day it did so shit happens lol
I was just pissing about mate, no harm done back on topic...
Old 04-01-2012, 02:32 PM
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i think the spec thats been mentioned a few times 55s,500 cooler, msd chip etc seems the best way to go and will hike the power quite a bit
what about an inlet cam change as iv seen these to have good results or is it not worth it at this stage of tune?
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Lol ok same here mate just noticed they way it obv came across but yeh back to topic I though about the water injection route although a bit pricey I had seen this done before on a red saph I got last year running graham good set up at 480bhp with 8 greens t4 with standard cooler and water inction I got it broke and the engine was absaloutly melted and I think I found the problem it had an empty water injection tank lol so kind of put of by that idea lol
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Originally Posted by bluntys1rsturbo
i think the spec thats been mentioned a few times 55s,500 cooler, msd chip etc seems the best way to go and will hike the power quite a bit
what about an inlet cam change as iv seen these to have good results or is it not worth it at this stage of tune?
Good question mate the heads of at the moment anyway to replace valve stem oil seals
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we never map on water injection for that reason, we just use it as an add on, but never rely on it.

A cam change will work, if you have no valve pockets, a simple AB07 inlet cam will work well.

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What ever you do, I'd get it properly set up rather than just an off the shelf chip
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Originally Posted by James90RS
What ever you do, I'd get it properly set up rather than just an off the shelf chip
Fair point mate but most tuners are all miles from me so to get it done for a start is a trek lol then if something's up with the car it's back down to the tuner if u know what I mean
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Originally Posted by pip7rs
Fair point mate but most tuners are all miles from me so to get it done for a start is a trek lol then if something's up with the car it's back down to the tuner if u know what I mean

I hope it doesn't work out more expensive for you in the long run then.

Who set it up last time? As you seem quite happy with it, so I'd take it back there?
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Here's a vid of pips saph launching last year at crail cracking looking car you have mate
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/...s/d5d230eb.mp4

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defo live map rather than off the shelf mate
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.

A cam change will work, if you have no valve pockets, a simple AB07 inlet cam will work well.


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for the 55 spec,what cam would go/rough power gain, with valve cutouts
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Originally Posted by mattman1234
for the 55 spec,what cam would go/rough power gain, with valve cutouts
BD14 inlet, standard exhaust
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Originally Posted by James90RS
I hope it doesn't work out more expensive for you in the long run then.

Who set it up last time? As you seem quite happy with it, so I'd take it back there?
Yeh I know exactly what your saying mate just hard choice it was set up at falkland performance a few years back and yeh seems to be good set up but not sure if they do live map or if they just use chips from likes of MSD and a few tweaks
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Would just like to say thanks to everyone for there comments and suggestion think its gonna be the route that most people have suggested 55's with closed loop chip and a pace 500 cooler 044 fuel pump and hopefully car still feels and drives the same with a bit more poke
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The 55s conversion is ace mate,you wont look back
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Originally Posted by fogulbennett
Here's a vid of pips saph launching last year at crail cracking looking car you have mate
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/...s/d5d230eb.mp4
Cheers mate heres a better launch though lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NVkf...e_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4SsL...e_gdata_player
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
The 55s conversion is ace mate,you wont look back
Hope not cause I'll be selling my setup just now and won't find out till back on the road in better weather lol but I have faith in of course u see them everyday
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We could do you launch control on your L8 ECU aswell

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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
We could do you launch control on your L8 ECU aswell
Lol don't tempt me thought about that many of times lol just don't think my diff would enjoy it too much haha but we'll see
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I'm got launch control and anti lag to be set up once mapped... Can't wait.
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Sounds great what car is it on i Would love anti lag but couldn't pay that for a turbo lol
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It's on my 3dr mate.
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Good fun from the rear then lol u got pics on here of it
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Get some pics of your saph up pip
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
the time suggests he is a very good driver, theres a stage 1 skyline that does 11.6 consistantly around 114 mph, his terminal speed will be the indication of power, fair play though hes a good launcher, i only did 12.3 in my old skyline and that was almost 600 hp lol trap speed 123 - 126 mph though.

whats he trapping ?
no one gives a fuck what hes trappin mate the point is its a fast cossie actually its rapid! 5 up and still pulls through every gear hard!

pip had a full car and pished on my mates rb320 and hes not shy in the scoob, sayin that pip youv no done 183 mph so must be talkin pish

its quicker than mine off the mark not untill iv no lag that i start catchin! (only cause youv got more grip yi cunt )


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