paceo

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just got one for my VR6 golf. if you get caught with it on whats the punishment out of interest?

NoRubNoDub

death by gas chamber.

think its just a defect i.e. 14 days to fix it

MadMac

I thought I'd google this and found this

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9042157AAtfVxz

ROFL And he started off so well

MadMac

As far as an answer to your question, I believe it is a 14 day fix it and bring it for inspection.

JamesR1

potentially a fine too. Like mispaced number plates, or faulty bulb.

Rollinz

1st time a get it fixed with a Ł60 fine, and the 2nd time much worse aparently

Mark 3D

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Blimey i didnt realise this!!!

Maybe its time to fit my sports cat!!!

Paul_RS

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They'll never notice its missing. My RS 2000 (1996) passed our MOT 6 or 7 times in a row with a decat fitted. The emissions at idle were tiny even without a CAT. Our MOT is pretty strict too.

Johnny Knoxville

But how many of you lot have been pulled for not having a cat? What are the odds?

The last guy that did my MOT said even if its not got a cat and the emissions are ok he will still pass it as its not hurting anyone

RS 5tu

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Wouldnt think having a decat would be a problem until mot time but if it passes emissions then its no problem at all.

WongRS

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Its not a problem if your emissions are within limit, although very, very rare, some cars manage it occasionally, chances of getting caught without one are minimal, and as said, as far as i know, its a defect issue/14 day fix.

Rsailor

I got caught 3 times without a cat on my rs2k, 1st time I told the copper I bought it like it and he just told me to get a cat, 2nd time same copper told me "don't take the piss" and the 3rd time he told me "if I see it again without a cat he was going to seize it"
I sold the de cat and left the cat on, He pulled me over twice after the 3rd time just to make sure I hadn't put the de cat back on.
Not sure if he could seize it, I wasn't going to try it though.
I didn't get a fine, Just got told to sort it.
It was in 2004 if that makes any difference
It was very loud!

Oranoco

Providing you aren't excessively noisy they would be hard pressed to go looking.

yellowsierra

Fcuk´n hell dude, you is either one unlucky sod or you cought said copper having a tug

Regards
Ian

Oranoco

BTW Bill Oddie will come round to your house and stamp on your bollocks

studabear

Mot regs have changed, now any car that requires a FULL Cat test with a cat missing is a fail even if it passes the emission limits.

What I need to check is if the car passes the bet test (basic emission test) is it ok if the cat aint there.

Carlos-Titx

Never heard of anyone being pulled for a de cat.

Find a friendly MOT guy as well. I need to find one now I am living in Liverpool.

Eigdoog

What about my cossie as it an early one without a cat. Do i need to put one on?

studabear

no, you will be fine

NoRubNoDub

A mate of mine was pulled a few weeks ago in his st3 focus the cop knew he hadn't a cat but didn't do anything. you can tell a mile off with the st the fumes reek of petrol.

fiend

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Easy way round that, hollow the standard CAT out.

studabear

yeah thats fair play as long as it looks to be there and passes the emission test its all good.

JamesR1

de catted cars will be very lucky to pass fast idle test. To be fair with MOT laws and further euro emissions coming in to play even tho they only effect newer cars. Its going to be increasingly more difficult to get a car through an MOT with out a cat..

The real probblem with the law would be if VOSA were out doing roadside stopo checks for roadworthyness and making sure cars ID's were in order as they often roll about on the floor checking stuff.

Carlos-Titx

They do proper smell like! The odd flame and loads of pops as well

martysmartie

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Exactly as he said, a de-cat isn't illegal in itself, rather it's the fact without it the car won't meet the emissions threshold, I diden't think the Police could do anything though, bar the case thats been stated above?

No as they were never fitted on any 2WD nor early 4x4's models, just like any other cars of the era, thats why we don't get an emission report at MOT time just so long as the CO is below a generic % your ok!

Martin

NoRubNoDub

try driving at 3/4 throttle, clutch in and wait a moment, then tap the throttle pedal........fucking hell wwIII breaks out lol

over here pre 94 cars don't require a cat, don't know if its the same in mainland uk.

martysmartie

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Think it may be a couple of years earlier here, so pre around 92 at a guess.

Martin

Carlos-Titx

Yeah I have the flames and pops down as a fine art.

Rollinz

Find a friendly mot man

Brendan

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I think it is pre aug 1992 for no cats in uk mainland! that's what killed the cvh RST and why ford moved to the multi valve head!

Rsailor

Looking back on it, I would have pulled me over. It was too loud.
I didn't think I'd get caught for a de-cat but 3 times, I wasn't happy to say he least.
Maybe I was naive in thinking I'd get away with it, copper had it in for me after the 2nd time he pulled me.
Legal side; Not sure what would happen, more than likely just get told to fix it.

xr4x4rs

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as above any cars built from aug 1992 and after require a cat unless they have changed it

and same if you can prove the engine is out of a earlier car doesnt require a cat or you stick a modern engine into an old car doesnt require a cat lol

im sure my escos was built before aug 1992 i need to check but im sure it doesnt require a cat being ona j reg

Maxwell

X2!! My old saxo vts passed a few times in a row with a decat pipe.

But emmissions test's have been a grey area of recent in northern ireland. My current saxo vts never got one done (back in june) and my friends saab 9-3 2.2tid also (last wednesday and its last mot). Supposedly this was due to complaints of mot tester's, as a handful of them fell ill (to excessive exposure to exhaust fumes.

And supposedly the mainland is getting the same set up as northern ireland!

Rollinz

Kind of off topic,
But where do i stand " legaly" with mine having a 44mm external wastegate going direct to atmosphere??

I always wonder " what if they see me" while im belting down a riad on full chat as loud as hell.... But then get pulled and its ticking over like a good en??

xr4x4rs

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doesnt matter as your wategate isnt open until it has to release excess boost, as if it was open all the time you have no boost and thecar would sound like its blowing badly

Rollinz

Yes but... When im on boost it is clearly too loud for public use???

But again insaying that loud cars are fround upon,
But fook me these quads and some custom harley style bikes are mega loud..

Rollinz

is there any legal problem with screamer pipes during an MOT also??

Gadget

I did that on my old GTi Escort and it sounded really shite, It was only on one day LOL.

I've removed the cat from my TDCi and the rear box, on idle it smells like parrafin out the back but is fine on MOT's, i suppose it's cos they only have a smoke test on Diesel??

Carlos-Titx

Not quite the same but my old car had a blowing exhaust when driving but sounded fine when revving at a stand still.

Got pulled for it being to loud so revved it for plod and it was quiet and he still gave me a producer

3FRD

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I got a 21 day ticket to fix it for mines when they were doing emission tests on a local road. "Fitted" my cat, got the ticket stamped, "unfitted" my cat and away I went.