yogurtey

I recently brought a g reg series 2 turbo. When i brought it, it was running a 2.1 zvh but it was nackerd so i didnt drive it hard at all but i did notice it was quite slow, i didnt take any notice as i knew the engine was been swaped. So i replaced the engine with a bog std 1.6 cvh turbo item, ive never had a 1.6 cvh turbo b4 ive always had zvh engines so i didnt realy know what 2 expect. It is what i would call very slow, a friend of mine big in to hes turbos also says the same. Any way 2 cut a long story short, what im finding is no mater how much boost i run through it it doesnt make the car any faster (i know u carnt simply wack the boost up and job done) but some diffrence should be felt. does any 1 know what could b going on?

spec:
std 1.6 cvh turbo engine
pro aloy front mount
stage 3 t3
mongoose (3 inch bore) exhaust
chipped ecu

I know its not going 2 be "evil/rappid" but it should be faster than my missis 03 focus diesel.

Any help or in put would be a great help thanks. Rob

stephenbatey

iTrader: (1)

Take it to be set up properly and you should be seeing nearly 200bhp mate

Zetecfiesta

possible that the turbo is too big for the spec? id get it all set up first though and have everything checked

yogurtey

A set up for mfi is very simple yes? I am a mechanic my self, the ing timing is set to 10deg advance and the co is set at 3.5%.
Its almost as if the engine is staved of air, it makes boost easly (way of my 30psi gauge)

luke19790_3

take to someone who knows these cars

luke19790_3

boost should be 7psi standard, if its over 30psi on mfi

GARETH T

These are just idle figures and don't really tell the picture of what's happening under load.
It does sound like it needs a good tuning session

yogurtey

I dont use it running 30psi, it runs 10psi. I worded it wrong i ment it will boost up to 30psi if you max the bleed valve out (i no there wank i dont usualy use it its kept shut).

I do see waht your all saying about a set up and im not ignoring this advise i will b looking in to it. But it just doesnt feel like a set up problem 2 me, It starts first touch of the key, cold or warm and drives realy well its just epicly slow.

I think it may be the turbo as the old (forged pistons) engine was fukd as i said, 3 of the pistons where starting 2 melt down, i have been in touch with a turbo guy who says if it started 2 melt the exhaust impeller (which is very likley is forged pistons were melting), it would b like driving a n/a car. Sort of no bang from the turbo coming in but it will still make boost. Sounds just like what mines doing.

yogurtey

When the co2 was set after fitting the new 1.6, it was low only around 2%

Oranoco

Sounds to me exactly a set up issue. Stage 3 T3 is a bit OTT for the rest of your spec. If the turbo is making the boost and not passing oil it's fine

gup

iTrader: (1)

Have you checked your timing belt marks just to erase that out of the question, also just check your plug gaps, and clean the air filter out too just basic little check really

yogurtey

yer the turbo makes boost and it doesnt smoke 1 bit. Its just feels very diffrent from other escort turbos iv had/driven. Its got the stage 3 on because as i say it was a 2.1 when i brought the car and that is what was on it. It doesnt feel like it has a turbo on it at all, theres no difrence btween been on full boost or not on boost at all. Its not very laggy 2 say it has a bigger turbo on there.

yogurtey

Yes i have done the basics, and i have put a timing belt on my self so ill say thats fine but it will double check. I was also told it could b because the exhaust is 2 big?

botters

iTrader: (2)

get it setup before it melts

yogurtey

Ill take it for set up then and go from there.

gup

iTrader: (1)

Check your fuses dude as I remember thier maybea 30 amp for the heated seats or something, but it also controls the fuel ecu iirmc

yogurtey

Yer i herd that also so i did check it

Oranoco

Whoever your talking to this about I would recomend not doing so any further as it seems they don't have a fucking clue!

zippyobrien

iTrader: (2)

Id say it's not getting enough fuel. And cheap the heated seat fuse in fuse box. With this missing it's basically an xr3i

yogurtey

So altought the exhaust is a 3inch bore it still shoud be ok even though the car is low powerd?

Fiesta_Jed

yes, on turbo car's a bigger exhaust is better.

yogurtey

sweet, ill get it booked in for set up and go from there

GARETH T

Maybe the reason the old engine is fucked, and this new one is slow it the same thing.

It needs fuel captain

zippyobrien

iTrader: (2)

Incorrect you still need to be sensible with size. A Rs turbo won't benifit till around 220 bhp

yogurtey

as i said thow i have turned the fuel up, the co is now 3.5%.

Oranoco

Absolutely However a 3" bore isn't going to kill the power

yogurtey

so the exhaust is not helping?

yogurtey

Ill get it in for a set up then and go from there.

luke19790_3

2.5 inch is best

3 inch is best for high powered turbos

but your issues are with the sh*t mfi system

GARETH T

But this is measured at ideal, what sort of air/fuel ratio are you seeing at peak load?

yogurtey

Yer true, obviously i dont know the answer.

GARETH T

Idle I ment to type,

I would say stop trying to guess at an answer, start measuring and make a better decision on what's going

yogurtey

I do see what ur saying and i will get it booked in for a set up, but it just feels difrent 2 any other set up related problem ive ever had b4. As said ill get it set up and see what happens.

GARETH T

Good move mate, I hope it's a simple quick fix and you get the performance your after

Stu @ M Developments

iTrader: (12)

99% certain to be no fuel under load, get a KE specialist to look at it.

yogurtey

It could be as simple as change the black fuel "ecu" ?

yogurtey

Whos a Ke specialist neer birmingham?

yogurtey

This cars gone frome bad 2 worse since the day i brought it, mite break it the end of the month when the tax is up lol.

Oranoco

Get it set up properly and you'll probably fall in love with it.

yogurtey

hopfully