Mr RS500

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Im looking to upgrade my every day car and have been so so happy with my BMW 5 series M sport that i have had for 8 years now that i have decided to go for a new shape 57 onwards Diesel 5 series M sport

question is this

I have seen 530d and 535d versions

Is it simple a BHP upgrade or do they have different engines ?

Plus anything i need to look out for when buying

Cheers Paul

Chip

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330/335 are 3 series but you mentioned 5 series

Same applies though, which is that the 335/535 is a 3 litre twin turbo, and the 330/530 is a 3 litre single turbo.

So quite a few differences between them to support that change, but fundamentally the same engine under it all.

330/530 with a remap will make roughly 335/535 power but wont match a remapped 335/535 lump.

Chip

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PS

And the x35 are all Auto only, the manual is only avaialble on the x30 and lower.

Mr RS500

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What a plonka

I have edited it to suit 5 series

so basicly its single turbo or twin turbo

Thanks for that , Im now of to pistonheads to spend spend spend , lol

turnover

get the 535d Paul will leave that old frs you had and 40 to 50mpg ,i had one that was remapped and it used to fly 325hp 690nm torque

bookwyse

The main thing to do is get the 535d and then get it remapped. Mines the earlier 2005 model but now has around 350bhp and 500lb ft. The thing flys and tries to steal your licence.

Once you ge one, check the stats are workng as they should run at arou d90 degrees, if the stats are gone then thempg plummets. Also get the swirl flaps removed, the blanks costs around £50 and take about three hours to change.

The just enjoy the smile of a large family car that's also quite quick.

turnover

plus you get through rear tyres quick lol

dave cos4x4

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Paul,

go for the late 07 onwards, upgrades the car then.

we just got the 520d after looking quite a bit on the net, better engine,better on fuel
,cheaper on tax....bonus all round.

not quite sure where that comes into your criteria for the ar your after though....sorry.

RS Grant

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I have heard of some gearboxes not taking kindly to a remap on the x35d cars, however, if I got my hands on either a 335d or 535d then I don't think I could resist getting it remapped to see what everyone is banging on about.

I love manual cars, but unless I was financially restricted or completely anti-auto gearbox, I'd feel like I'd settled for second best if I got an x30d instead.


Cheers,
Grant

turnover

Grant i had a 335d remapped and it ran 12.9 at pod .thats what people bang on about lol,seriously quick economical and luxury all the toys,good all round car

pani_k

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Been doing a lot of research into these looking at both a 3 series E92 (coupe) and a E60 5 series. Definitely go for post late 2006/early 2007 E60 where they had the Life Cycle Impulse (LCI). Had a few subtle improvements to the bodykit, new LED rear tail lights and engines got a revision too as you will find the all LCI engines have higher power outputs than pre 2007 cars and also from what I hear of the diesels feel much smoother (as if they weren't before!!)

Now where a 535d is concerned, it will be absolutely fooking rapid after a map and you may even gain a couple or 5mpg too. However, from bystander's view on a lot of BMW forums, it seems that the 535d isn't massively economical although an impressive diesel, on the economy front it isn't as good as you might think. Calling it thirsty would be ridiculous but it just ain't as economical as the 530d or 525d quite predictably though.

Myself personally, I'll either be looking at a 330d or a 530d. More than likely go for a 330d coupe since I don't really have the need for a 5 series but you can get one fully loaded with a step auto box for a lot cheaper than an equivalent 3 series. Also you can get a manual box for the 330d and that will do me nicely. For the 535d you will either have an auto box or the steptronic auto box (not SMG). The 530d is more than enough car and has enough poke and will see 280bhp easy with some companies extracting more and you can also find manual boxes for the 530d, however 99% of them will have been specced auto but if you are considering a 535d then go for it as it is definitely more car. Try find one fully loaded also (seat heaters, bluetooth, professional nav etc) as weirdly even properly basic spec models are priced very close to ones with all the options from factory so go for a fully spec one!

3FRD

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RS500 intercooler with remap is common on the E60 535d. Been in a couple of remapped ones. Bmw know how to make a good diesel engine! Used car bargain!! These are cheap now.

vroooom ptssssh

had a shot of a 61plate X5 3.0d not long ago, f**k me for the size of the thing it shifted, Diesel's imo are the way forward if you're looking for an all round package!

My old man's got an F10 525d msport, lovely big car and it's also pretty quick for it's size.

Chip

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Remapped 520d is where it's at for ecomomy and still no slouch.

Jim Galbally

i read that the 520d is a 4pot and not the nicest to drive compared to the 6pots.

anyone driven one and care to comment? sounds like internet bullcrap to me but got me wondering

Chip

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Even the 4 pots are very smooth IMHO (once moving along and not idling when like all dervs they sound a bit shite), but if cost and mpg werent an option I definately prefer the 6 pots, they're even better.

But too many people think the 520d will be shite when it isnt.

v man

a friend of mine bought a 535d new and the thing was fast for such a big car

paddle shift was excellent and it was such a comefy place to be

love to own one and will do one day

justin2

ive got a a d3 alpina 200bhp 4 pot and gets 55-60mpg at 80mph on a motorway and is pretty quick round town

Ima Racing

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my m5 sounded rough and like a diesel at idle

.....i just cannot go diesel except in a van, no matter how good they are petrol is king lol.

Bungle

my neighbour has a 60 plate 535d m sport and its awesome, he wants it mapping though and says everywhere he tried cant do them yet can anyone help?

Chip

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That is one that Evolution Chips still have listed as in development at this stage.

I wouldnt be surprised if even once it is done though it ends being one that cant be done via ODB initially and needs the ECU taking out.

CossieRich

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I have just very bearly bought a 535d. Walked away at the last minute before i signed for it. Immensly nice to drive. Had 106k on the clock but felt like half that. Loads of power

Bungle

Ahh that makes sense think he said he tried ems or dms? and they cant do it atm, He's pretty annoyed tbh though really wants it doing,

A little off topic here but how will these maps stand with the new mot as i've been told they can plug car in and check and if its not manufacturer software its a fail??

paulj

actually bought a 535d m sport in aug had it re-mapped by e-maps
very impressed with it approx 340bhp/680nm and so smooth aswell
fuel economy is not bad, around town approx 29mpg. on a run 38mpg

cheers paul

pani_k

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How is this going to be possible with all the different types of cars and software?

I've had my car mapped by MSD but I had the original Ford map tweaked. So how are they going to be able to tell that?

jason_nike

530d is quick enough for me, my company car
Top spec, sat nav, heated seats, 19" wheels etc
Very nice cars indeed, comfy on long journeys, rapid around town
Sorry pic on phone, only one I taken as company car

Bungle

This was my thought too i suppose tweaking the original map is ok but not all maps are done this way iirc? He does my mot's and is a very good friend so doubt its bullshit, there waiting to get the machine or whatever it is as we speak, its feckin expensive too

pani_k

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That's a serious company car mate!!! Really do love the F10 5 series.

arch

Never driven a remapped one, only boggo 330d and 530d. Not very quick, rubbish gear box (auto), horrible interior, and manage about early 20's to the gallon. I just cannot work out what people like about em, still, each to their own.

RWD_cossie_wil

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Are your "work" cars not remapped?

arch

If they are mate, that only makes em even worse. Honest answer is, I'm not really sure

Shifty Disco

My mates one is identical. Apart from his is a 520d. Can get some nice cars through BMW Mini.

SiZT

It's a visual check only, so it'll be cars with diesel tuning box's etc... that fail

I can think of a really easy way to check, would take around 35-40mins though. Hence why they won't bring more stringent tests in until they improve OBD technology to either allow quicker read and flash of the ecu file or allow the map to be checked through the obd port