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General Car Related Discussion.To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.
That's heak soak though isn't it through being stationary and the intercooler being surrounded by hot air with no air flow to cool it.....no matter how efficient the spec r core is i wouldn't have thought it would make that much difference in that situation would it, as in act's wouldn't drop as soon as the car started a 0-60/qtr mile run (be good if it did though???) ???
True, but that's when water injection comes into play, and the Spec-R cooler would also compliment it as the Garrett core and Pete's end tank/pipe work design would be flowing much more air than most 'coolers on the market:
True, but that's when water injection comes into play, and the Spec-R cooler would also compliment it as the Garrett core and Pete's end tank/pipe work design would be flowing much more air than most 'coolers on the market:
Ahh right, if the spec r design made enough difference to act's in that situation (over other intercoolers i mean) then definately a real world improvement and gain to be had then, always used to cause me frustration that act's were sky high by time you'd sat in the queue at pod and knew you were never gonna be running full power when you got to the front.....the same issues never arose on the road of course once moving
To be far I have had my car held flat out for some distance and the 70mm Airtec cooler kept the act at a couple of degree,s above ambient, going by what Lanky Steve has said with his specR cooler is it does keep the act lower and would clear heatsoak quicker.
It all comes down to cold hard cash at the end of the day, i bet cheaper parts sell 10 - 1 and thats where auto specilists do well as they have good products mear mortals can afford. We all like big expensive things and waveing our willies around but i for one cant afford it any more so have to no when to stop lol. Id love a Spec R cooler but the Air tec one will probably be just as good and that is what i will be getting
who says that hart's development costs haven't already been covered separately by a customer and are not ammortised into each unit? that's what a clever company would do, knowing that their design will immediately be copied by someone else in this day and age (if not these clients, then no doubt someone would have sent one to chine by now).
we know nothing of the situation, so there's no point speculating on it.
Warren Kelly didn't have any issues which act's with the new airtec cooler.
Wenny didn't have any issues with the airtec cooler. Either.
Exactly Ron
Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
To be far I have had my car held flat out for some distance and the 70mm Airtec cooler kept the act at a couple of degree,s above ambient, going by what Lanky Steve has said with his specR cooler is it does keep the act lower and would clear heatsoak quicker.
Steve
Should be interesting to see what the new 100 & 120mm core do - they have different designs to the end tanks which are now rounded off - not long to wait now
Originally Posted by miller3
It all comes down to cold hard cash at the end of the day, i bet cheaper parts sell 10 - 1 and thats where auto specilists do well as they have good products mear mortals can afford. We all like big expensive things and waveing our willies around but i for one cant afford it any more so have to no when to stop lol. Id love a Spec R cooler but the Air tec one will probably be just as good and that is what i will be getting
Should be interesting to see what the new 100 & 120mm core do - they have different designs to the end tanks which are now rounded off - not long to wait now
You should come to some of the events if you want to be keept in the loop lol
Nope, to busy to be spending time relaxing and enjoying one self at events
I will just wait for the results of said cooler and inlet and spend my money accordingly
All i can say on the matter with my back to back tests was the Spec-R recovered quicker than the Airtec on the RR even though they made amost identical power.
How many of these road cossies are driven hard for 20mins flat out though? I bet most just see the odd squirt on a dual carrigeway
Its not 20min it takes less than 20seconds for the intercooler to start getting to hot and then when you slow down for say a corner off the gas it still takes to long to cool down.
Its not 20min it takes less than 20seconds for the intercooler to start getting to hot and then when you slow down for say a corner off the gas it still takes to long to cool down.
Mark
unless you have tested Airtec,s intercooler then what you are saying is pure guess work & pointless imo
Just seen the finished cooler and it looks a decent bit of kit for the money, as Ronnie said above it's been tested against the old style cooler with very good improvements so for most it's going to be a decent upgrade.
as for spec-r intercoolers and products ,i had bad experiance with them on time scale on header,group a breather and and turbo pipes , got promised a date and took months to get
was 5 years ago tho ,thought give them another chance and guess what , promised a week and that was a month ago and no products yet
This is the cooler from Ronnies car Steve - mine is also black & having a dump valve pipe the same as yours in the side of the inlet pipe and no lettering
Originally Posted by miller3
And on the intercooler too no doubt, a johnny b double fucking all in one thread....
Lets hope then that the Aitec cooler recovers quicker on heat soak than it does to arrive from China .
Will be interesting to see if any figure's ever get posted , which i doubt .....
But they are on the shelf soon and you can get them for half the price and you'll get it too your door the next day
What you mean you dont have to wait months before he gets some money together so he can then order cores from the states to then weld together as there already sat there on the shelf???
What you mean you dont have to wait months before he gets some money together so he can then order cores from the states to then weld together as there already sat there on the shelf???
Wow thats amazing!!! :-O.
Perfection and class comes to those that wait ...........mass produced stuff is boring with no sole put into it .....
Lets hope then that the Aitec cooler recovers quicker on heat soak than it does to arrive from China .
Will be interesting to see if any figure's ever get posted , which i doubt .....
Who says its coming from china?? And I'll make sure I let you know when it has been tested which will be in January.
Originally Posted by DazF
wenny doesn't count ronnie, drag strip is a different ball game altogether. And Warren only ran it for 1 round didn't he? And what were his act's?
Why is drag strip different? Most people on here will want to take teir car up the quarter mile.
I'll ask warren to come on here and tell you what the differences were. And yes it was one round. The last round
That put a smile on my face lol.
im sure we could defend both corners all night but the fact is these coolers will out sell the spec r ones 10~1 as they will sute most peoples spec and at a price they can afford.
23-12-2011, 03:53 PM
