airtec cosworth inlet manifold
06-08-2012, 08:41 PM
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I'd like to see aswell as I'm after a new cooler after fitting my hart inlet! The spec-r one is tested as it made mad ade and rods charge temps stay level on full throttle! I'd like to see if the airtec one dose the same or just looks the same lol
07-08-2012, 08:23 AM
#250
Nothing wrong with a spacer mate 
i would be tempted to cut the restriction in the elbow out on the 4x4 inlet - thats what i've done with my 2wd inlet and added a spacer - prob no where near as efficient as a Hart/Airtec but its only cost me the price of a spacer and some welding.
i would be tempted to cut the restriction in the elbow out on the 4x4 inlet - thats what i've done with my 2wd inlet and added a spacer - prob no where near as efficient as a Hart/Airtec but its only cost me the price of a spacer and some welding.
07-08-2012, 11:55 AM
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As quoted. Why pay top doller when u can get same cheaper. I know. Let's all shop with the same gas company and waste money. If I can get my gas or electric cheaper why should I not do it. Look after the pennys and the pound will look after themselves as mi gran says
07-08-2012, 12:39 PM
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Garrett core:
"top quality" Airtec core:
07-08-2012, 03:16 PM
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It was a mk1 FRS intercooler a friend bought for his project. Needless to say it was never fitted and replaced with the Garrett cored cooler pictured above
07-08-2012, 03:42 PM
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But they look the same so they must work as well lol. That's why I'd like to see a good hard driving with lots of long periods hard on the boost test done on the airtec intercooler before I buy a new intercooler but no doubt after the test it will be the spec-r one I have to buy!
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07-08-2012, 09:59 PM
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But they look the same so they must work as well lol. That's why I'd like to see a good hard driving with lots of long periods hard on the boost test done on the airtec intercooler before I buy a new intercooler but no doubt after the test it will be the spec-r one I have to buy!
mark will be mapping mine this week on a hart and spec R cooler, so watch this space.
07-08-2012, 10:03 PM
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I need to pull my finger out lol I've just re done my hole fuel system and fitted a hart just need to do my intercooler now as I'm not happy with the way the old one meets the t/body! Then I can get mine re mapped are you a a gt30?
07-08-2012, 10:22 PM
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But they look the same so they must work as well lol. That's why I'd like to see a good hard driving with lots of long periods hard on the boost test done on the airtec intercooler before I buy a new intercooler but no doubt after the test it will be the spec-r one I have to buy!
What like the beasting Ron gives his 3dr or warren his escort ?!?!?
I guess thats not testing enough for you?!?
09-08-2012, 08:25 AM
#266
a friend of mine bought an autospecialists (Hart type) inlet manifold and now makes a rebuilt in his 4wd Sapphire. (403s and T35)
I 'm planning to buy one also (Rs500 I/C, 630cc blacks, 044 and T35) but I 'm looking for results / gains over the standard 4wd inlet manifold. I'm not looking only for maximum Hp but for all rpm power gain!
Has anyone tried it?
I 'm planning to buy one also (Rs500 I/C, 630cc blacks, 044 and T35) but I 'm looking for results / gains over the standard 4wd inlet manifold. I'm not looking only for maximum Hp but for all rpm power gain!
Has anyone tried it?
09-08-2012, 01:48 PM
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09-08-2012, 04:03 PM
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no its not as ive seen no data! the spec r one did flat out on full throttle for over 20 seconds at brunters with a 600+ bhp car and the charge temp stayed about the same and the out side air temp!
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09-08-2012, 04:22 PM
#270
Msd did loads of runs on the road through 3,4,5th gears with a 1° rise over ambiant...
Your just being a fool and a spec r bitch. the majoraty of folk want a good performing, well priced cooler and the airtec one is just that
Even wenny uses airtec/AS parts on the mk3 and the nail so you go away and do your own testing away from that keyboard...
Peace x
Your just being a fool and a spec r bitch. the majoraty of folk want a good performing, well priced cooler and the airtec one is just that
Even wenny uses airtec/AS parts on the mk3 and the nail so you go away and do your own testing away from that keyboard...
Peace x
09-08-2012, 04:52 PM
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Msd did loads of runs on the road through 3,4,5th gears with a 1° rise over ambiant...
Your just being a fool and a spec r bitch. the majoraty of folk want a good performing, well priced cooler and the airtec one is just that
Even wenny uses airtec/AS parts on the mk3 and the nail so you go away and do your own testing away from that keyboard...
Peace x
Your just being a fool and a spec r bitch. the majoraty of folk want a good performing, well priced cooler and the airtec one is just that
Even wenny uses airtec/AS parts on the mk3 and the nail so you go away and do your own testing away from that keyboard...
Peace x
And what on earth am I testing at the keybored then lol dick head ill buy the air tec if its proved to be better but it wont be so ill be buying a spec r one as thats my choice based on the testing thats be done on it!
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09-08-2012, 06:36 PM
#274
I believe that airtec intercooler has simply the best price/power ratio.
Maybe SpecR I/C is better but I believe that you can't see big difference on an engine with up to 500bhp.
Size does matter!
A big I/C is not always a good solution, you always have to consider what's the best for your engine specification.
For example on my car with a T35 and 630cc injectors I've installed an intercooler from Airtec Rs500 style with 60mm size. If I have installed a bigger one or a SpecR then maybe (I haven't tried it) peak bhp will be raised but all my graph on torque side and spooling time should be worse! So why to compare 2 products with different size and price between them? Each of them is for another engine specifications.
Maybe SpecR I/C is better but I believe that you can't see big difference on an engine with up to 500bhp.
Size does matter!
A big I/C is not always a good solution, you always have to consider what's the best for your engine specification.
For example on my car with a T35 and 630cc injectors I've installed an intercooler from Airtec Rs500 style with 60mm size. If I have installed a bigger one or a SpecR then maybe (I haven't tried it) peak bhp will be raised but all my graph on torque side and spooling time should be worse! So why to compare 2 products with different size and price between them? Each of them is for another engine specifications.
09-08-2012, 06:41 PM
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I believe that airtec intercooler has simply the best price/power ratio.
Maybe SpecR I/C is better but I believe that you can't see big difference on an engine with up to 500bhp.
Size does matter!
A big I/C is not always a good solution, you always have to consider what's the best for your engine specification.
For example on my car with a T35 and 630cc injectors I've installed an intercooler from Airtec Rs500 style with 60mm size. If I have installed a bigger one or a SpecR then maybe (I haven't tried it) peak bhp will be raised but all my graph on torque side and spooling time should be worse! So why to compare 2 products with different size and price between them? Each of them is for another engine specifications.
Maybe SpecR I/C is better but I believe that you can't see big difference on an engine with up to 500bhp.
Size does matter!
A big I/C is not always a good solution, you always have to consider what's the best for your engine specification.
For example on my car with a T35 and 630cc injectors I've installed an intercooler from Airtec Rs500 style with 60mm size. If I have installed a bigger one or a SpecR then maybe (I haven't tried it) peak bhp will be raised but all my graph on torque side and spooling time should be worse! So why to compare 2 products with different size and price between them? Each of them is for another engine specifications.
09-08-2012, 06:44 PM
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what on earth are you on about? My car is 500bhp and may go to 600 max I'm after an intercooler that keeps it at that power as the charge temp stays level with out side air temp as a lesser intercooler could lose you around 50 bhp as the temps rise! Now as the spec r cooler can do that its going to be the one for me! P.S you really do sound a bit of a spanner lol I don't get why you have a bee in your bonnet! All I'm saying is I've seen no results for the airtec one and the pics above speak for them selfs!
09-08-2012, 06:52 PM
#277
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By the way you stated the test was done on the 3dr track car at msd mapping it on the road! There's no way they would have been full throttle in 4th or 5th on max boost for 20 odd seconds lol plus that is a low,ish bhp car as its less than 400bhp!
09-08-2012, 07:36 PM
#278
I'm sure that comparing these to intercoolers always aiming on the same target.
I saw that Garrett core is far better than Airtec's, so on Airtec you will need more pressure from turbo (more heat) to reach the target pressure to inlet manifold. On an example like this Airtec must have better material to reduce heat faster than SpecR to win this comparison! Material is the same but core is different so SpecR wins!
I have 2 questions!
1. what is the price difference between these two I/Cs? is this difference worth for the power you earn installing an SpecR intercooler?
2. I thought that this post was about Hart/Airtec inlet manifold, has anyone ever tried it?
I saw that Garrett core is far better than Airtec's, so on Airtec you will need more pressure from turbo (more heat) to reach the target pressure to inlet manifold. On an example like this Airtec must have better material to reduce heat faster than SpecR to win this comparison! Material is the same but core is different so SpecR wins!
I have 2 questions!
1. what is the price difference between these two I/Cs? is this difference worth for the power you earn installing an SpecR intercooler?
2. I thought that this post was about Hart/Airtec inlet manifold, has anyone ever tried it?
09-08-2012, 07:45 PM
#279
Lol less than 400hp, do you know the car we are talking about?!?
spanner!!! Can you not READ?
Warrens escos is 600hp wennys mk 3 is/was 700hp, all get used to death!!!
All im getting at is some spec r fanboys slating the airtec stuff but in reality it dose the job just fine..
For the record i have absolutly nothing against spec r as its a work of art.
do you know what im board of this now......
Im racing this weekend with the team with our shit airtec gear lol... 3 races 3 wins with broken lap records along the way.
Later Fanboy!!! XxX
spanner!!! Can you not READ?
Warrens escos is 600hp wennys mk 3 is/was 700hp, all get used to death!!!
All im getting at is some spec r fanboys slating the airtec stuff but in reality it dose the job just fine..
For the record i have absolutly nothing against spec r as its a work of art.
do you know what im board of this now......
Im racing this weekend with the team with our shit airtec gear lol... 3 races 3 wins with broken lap records along the way.
Later Fanboy!!! XxX