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I have been having some oil and water mixing issues for a while which has also turned to the car only firing on three on start up, well I have taken the head off and the blocks cracked across the water jacket and bolt hole, yet another ARP failure on a 200 block,
Question is I know it can be welded and long studded but how strong is it after having this done?
Steve
Last edited by Moonstone Steve.; 11-12-2011 at 12:49 PM.
I have been having some oil and water mixing issues for a while which has also turned to the car only firing on three on start up, well I have taken the head off and the blocks cracked across the water jacket and bolt hole, yet another ARP failure on a 200 block,
Question is I know it can be welded and long studded but how strong is it after having this done?
Steve
Steve,speak to Harvey,welding it is a possibility depends on how bad it is,get some pics of the damage aswell, you can then send them to the person you choose to repair it if it's repairable of course.Long studding is the way forward for over 450 bhp cars,some will disagree though for sure.Bloody cossies eh,good luck with it bud.
couldn't see the pics Steve, but if its the normal cracking that I see a lot of then long studding and no welding will be a perminant fix. I actually long stud ours myself now as I have had a couple badly machined by outside machine shops.
This is what happens when people are cheap bastards! It really annoys me, how may times have ARP studs been shown up, yet people still use them as a "cheap" option!!! Build it once, build it right! You will always get some clown arguing that their car is fine with STD bolts or ARP's, but time & again it's been proven long studs are the only reliable option over stage 3 IMHO.
Keeping my options open at the mo Chris, if Mart thinks this is scrap then I will look at other options, whatever happens it will be a long studded block I use.
This is what happens when people are cheap bastards! It really annoys me, how may times have ARP studs been shown up, yet people still use them as a "cheap" option!!! Build it once, build it right! You will always get some clown arguing that their car is fine with STD bolts or ARP's, but time & again it's been proven long studs are the only reliable option over stage 3 IMHO.
thats caused by people using arp bolts but tightening them up to std ford torques not the ones instructed on arp as the difference is very big in settings
how much does it cost to have a block long studded?
About Ł250 for the centre 6, which when you consider a set of ARP's are Ł130 ish, it's utter madness to use ARP's IMO. STD Genuine bolts are a much better option if you are staying sensible power.
About Ł250 for the centre 6, which when you consider a set of ARP's are Ł130 ish, it's utter madness to use ARP's IMO. STD Genuine bolts are a much better option if you are staying sensible power.
oh thats not too bad then, I was thinking alot more for some reason.
thats caused by people using arp bolts but tightening them up to std ford torques not the ones instructed on arp as the difference is very big in settings
that's because the threads are finer so you don't need to tighten them up as much right?
thats caused by people using arp bolts but tightening them up to std ford torques not the ones instructed on arp as the difference is very big in settings
what are the torque settings for arp bolts then
mark
thats caused by people using arp bolts but tightening them up to std ford torques not the ones instructed on arp as the difference is very big in settings
Load Off shit mate my block cracked on standard bolts!
Load Off shit mate my block cracked on standard bolts!
bet it didnt crack like that though
every bolt has a certain torque setting, over tigtening will cause problems like these
std head bolts give a little bit becuase theer straetch bolts but can still be over clamped
the arp stud and nut kit with tprqued up contines with no stretch so finds a weak point in the block and the weak point as everyone knowson the blocks is betwen the water ways and head bolts
if you doa search on this forum i posted the full instructions for arp torque settings word to word from there instructions aswell
11-12-2011, 10:52 AM
cracked block NOW WITH PICTURE
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