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Old 24-10-2011, 10:57 AM
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Default Antother ava orniment that ammounted to nothing read this

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13194538286561

Good read & ppl wonder how i dont like them , they had this car for years

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hope that link works its on strathy cruise but when i copy the link it dosent look right
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that would piss me right off!
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Its just a day in the life for this mob i tell you mate
Old 24-10-2011, 11:09 AM
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http://www.strathycruise.com/phpBB/v...c.php?t=117939
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Fuck that's not good... to be fair, they set my RS Turbo up many years ago after I'd been to RJM in Glenrothes and had a shit set up done when I'd got the car chipped by them. But after being to AVA it went like a train and was 100% reliable, it was other wee bits that failed on the car and annoyed me after that.

I had heard that they weren't the greatest when they'd moved over to tuning Jap motors though.


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Old 24-10-2011, 11:18 AM
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Are we talking about the same AVA that was originally in Clydebank them move to near Glasgow airport.
If so, i didn't experience any problems when I used the. Didn't have an engine build just RR tunes over the years. they definitely knew their stuff. Would be sad to thing you were talking about them.
Old 24-10-2011, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo-King
Are we talking about the same AVA that was originally in Clydebank them move to near Glasgow airport.
If so, i didn't experience any problems when I used the. Didn't have an engine build just RR tunes over the years. they definitely knew their stuff. Would be sad to thing you were talking about them.
Same place unfortunately.
Old 24-10-2011, 11:25 AM
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Ah fuck it, not even going to bother...

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Old 24-10-2011, 11:39 AM
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Used AVA once and they did a blinding job on my S2 - was like a different car afterwards and ran/went so much better.
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The fact ava had it that long to begin with is enough for me
Old 24-10-2011, 12:12 PM
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I wouldnt trust them. Took my evo7 there to get checked out after getting a rallie art ecu fitted they told me it was det and told to send it back. Phoned woodford garage to tell them what happend. They told me they have never heard of that happening before. They gave me russ that used to work at wallace he checked the car out and there wasnt any faults at all. So ive never been back. Also ive had problems with extreme at whitburn.
Old 24-10-2011, 12:16 PM
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Rus is the man up here with evo's , i used extreme & thought they were ok but defo take it to russ

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Old 24-10-2011, 12:33 PM
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5 years mg:
Old 24-10-2011, 12:39 PM
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I took the 7 to get set up with bigger turbo power fc and avcr for 400bhp brought home started det took it back 4 times costing 100quid each time stil had same problem with less and less power. Tool it to russ within 5min problem solved they never set up avcr. They phoned said sorry and never offerd a refund
Old 24-10-2011, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Ah fuck it, not even going to bother...

I'd love to hear the other side as I bet there is one! MSN later
Old 24-10-2011, 05:19 PM
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Never had a problem with them either.

Been using them for over 10 years.
Old 24-10-2011, 07:17 PM
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not that i live anywhere near Scotland, but if i did i wouldnt take my car there due to the amount of horror stories ive heard!
Old 24-10-2011, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Ah fuck it, not even going to bother...
Old 24-10-2011, 08:35 PM
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Fuck sake can't believe that strathy cruise site is still going went downhill as there is now section now for viewing all the wee dirtys that used to go.
Old 24-10-2011, 10:01 PM
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I mind of seeing the red bmw in the long stay area and also seen the guys skyline through there.
Old 24-10-2011, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by stevos
there is now section now for viewing all the wee dirtys that used to go.

Is there?? Link??
Old 25-10-2011, 07:17 AM
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It's a shame as everyone used to love their work a few years ago it would seem - what's changed?

I've only heard bad stories since Euan broke his Saff up a few years ago
Old 25-10-2011, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by James90RS
It's a shame as everyone used to love their work a few years ago it would seem - what's changed?

I've only heard bad stories since Euan broke his Saff up a few years ago
They were good at fabricating things, Euans exhaust, aribox and intercooler were pretty special.

However for know aparant reason they seemed to go VERY low comp.

I agree that for a big power road engine low comp (around 7.2:1). Is the way forward but AVA decided that Euans engine had to be 6.3:1
which seems exessive given the power he was running.

I only noticed the the bad stories about them when he broke his saff aswell. After that nobody had anything good to say about them

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Old 25-10-2011, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BigErn
Is there?? Link??
Sorry mate was meant to say there isn't a section now
Old 25-10-2011, 09:13 PM
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Used them once (2005 i think it was)
Was NOT a good visit thats for sure
Old 31-10-2011, 01:19 AM
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I mind they had Scott's (black scoob on here I think) sti for years. He must have spent Ł50-60k with them for a engine that never ran, he ended up weighing it in for scrap. The car was sent down to Andrew Jeffrey Engineering where for Ł25k he got a engine with the power he was promised by AVA and it came with a warranty too.
Old 31-10-2011, 08:15 AM
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Garages are always a hit or miss. This one sounds like it just misses though. I had a lot of bother with a new place that opened in Dundee recently. The mechanic who worked on my car was amazing. The boss is a fucking idiot though.
Old 31-10-2011, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rikochet
I had a lot of bother with a new place that opened in Dundee recently. The mechanic who worked on my car was amazing. The boss is a fucking idiot though.
What garage was that mate??


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Originally Posted by Paul1982sco
I mind they had Scott's (black scoob on here I think) sti for years. He must have spent Ł50-60k with them for a engine that never ran, he ended up weighing it in for scrap. The car was sent down to Andrew Jeffrey Engineering where for Ł25k he got a engine with the power he was promised by AVA and it came with a warranty too.

Good to hear Scott eventualy got the car he wanted, I mind talking ot him after all the problems with the second engine and he really was heart broken to the point where he was going to give up on cars all together.
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I've no comment on Ava as a whole as not familiar with enough of their work, but as per a couple of posts above, Russ is a fantastic guy, really good knowledge and you know he'll always be totally honest with you.

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Originally Posted by Fiesta_Jed
They were good at fabricating things, Euans exhaust, aribox and intercooler were pretty special.

However for know aparant reason they seemed to go VERY low comp.

I agree that for a big power road engine low comp (around 7.2:1). Is the way forward but AVA decided that Euans engine had to be 6.3:1
which seems exessive given the power he was running.

I only noticed the the bad stories about them when he broke his saff aswell. After that nobody had anything good to say about them
That CR was madness, and the plenum seemed like a lot of money spent fabricating to end up with something relatively average that could have just been replaced with an off the shelf swedish one which would have done the same job or a small turbo escos one which no doubt would have been better.
Old 31-10-2011, 10:28 AM
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c0ssie9i6 who used to be on here (RIP) had his car there for 2 and a half years which was a long time, just for a rebuild with race internals. had 2 attempts at bringing it back home from there.
1 was a blocked valve i think and the other was a brand new t38 that blew up after a few miles on route. he flew up with his son and had to fly home again in the end.
it is ok now with .1 bhp shy of 400 bhp but that was due to a standard intercooler but now is changed to a rs500 jobby and aching to be tuned more on a rr and is still look after very well by his wife and local garage and the guys in the escos.com site.

Shame to hear about them being rubbish now as they made the first fastest saph from scotland, from the looks of it when i went there a few times with old skool know how.
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On the fabrication side I bought one of their CVH manifolds from gus, was incredible workmanship... shame to hear about the garage practices though
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Originally Posted by Chip
That CR was madness, and the plenum seemed like a lot of money spent fabricating to end up with something relatively average that could have just been replaced with an off the shelf swedish one which would have done the same job or a small turbo escos one which no doubt would have been better.
Euans car was appalling on accleration but it did have good power at the topend . Saw his data log it took a lifetime to get to its 188mph max over 48secs . It was however very strong & didnt break.
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Euans car was appalling on accleration but it did have good power at the topend . Saw his data log it took a lifetime to get to its 188mph max over 48secs . It was however very strong & didnt break.
Its a shame the map was protected when I bought his ECU, so I had to wipe it off and couldnt look at it.

would love to have seen the ignition table, it must have just had 40 everywhere with that CR! And still would have been a mile from det most places Would have been horrific to drive off boost im sure, and must have been terrible on fuel off boost too.
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Tom that did alot of the fab work at AVA was really good , the exhaust on euans car along with the plenum on mine and euans were very well made. Then all the one off parts made for Scotts scooby were a work of art , just a shame they would of been better left off the car .
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Tbh i dont really feel sympathy for the guy having his car there for 5 years.. It was entirly up to him to let them keep it that long.. I would have long before taken them to court of they refused to fix the car. 5 years ffs
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I used AVA in the past. You have to admit, the fabrication work is excellent. Timescales on the other hand, could probably use a bit of work....

But all these cars that have exploded and taken 50000 years to complete, are always a bit different, a bit special... Not your usual run of the mill. A 1988 535i with over 400bhp at the wheels is not a quick 2 week in and out job. There will be issues as you find the weak areas of the engine. However, 5 years is taking the piss. But for all we know it took him that long to pay up! We don't know the whole story, and likely never will. Speculation isn't a good thing, and damages peoples livelyhoods.

My advice to everyone, is to buy an Evo. Everything is simpler with an Evo.
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used them 4 times for basic setups,twice on my rst and twice on my 2wd cos,was only happy on the 1st rr setup on my rst.
i bought bits from euans car,after it clocking 188 mph it cracked the block or something,it got rebuilt after that but was never used in anger like that again.his words.
as for scottish tuners i wouldnt use any unless i was stuck.


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