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Old 08-10-2011, 11:20 AM
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Default Yb spec advise (tuners)

What spec yb could you build to have minimal lag, good strong torque to say 380bhp. The reason i ask is im toying with the idea or re-building the saph i broke, ill be doing it over the winter as i still have the shell etc,

The engine i have is a 205 block on .5bore
standard 2wd head and cams
2wd inlet
2wd exhaust manifold
l6 ecu

Ive seen that wossner pistons etc come in sizes like 92mm instead of your mahle .5, 1mm etc so would my block be ok to machine again for a set of wossners to produce that power?

My old spec was with the use of a GT30 and it was terribly laggy, so i want something thats really punchy off the mark and through gear changes that will still produce a good figure and most importantly torque.
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Anyone got any suggestions?
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standard engine build, BD14 inlet cam, either a rollerbearing T34, or a GT28?
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MSD stage 3 sounds like its on the money of what you are looking for.
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
standard engine build, BD14 inlet cam, either a rollerbearing T34, or a GT28?
My old spec was a standard engine build with greys and a tt t35 turbo at 30 psi spike and dropped off to about 28, that was pretty good, but just wondered if there was better?

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Originally Posted by pani_k
MSD stage 3 sounds like its on the money of what you are looking for.

I dont really want to use them again as i wasnt impressed with the chip they sent or the amount of phone calls etc for help that was never replied to. I'll be going the route of a live map for certain this time hopefully with reyland as he's the most local and does standard management.
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Originally Posted by coswurv
My old spec was a standard engien build with greys and a tt t35 turbo at 30 psi spike and dropped off to about 28, that was pretty good, but just wondered if there was better?
The MSD conversion with slightly bigger siemens injectors (53 Lbs I believe) should be good, keep everything as small as you can if you want response, a 4x4 inlet might be good. a good intercooler & exhaust are important, and if you fancy somthing different from the t35, how about a roller bearing version or a GT28, which should give mega response with good top end?
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ring tony @ Turbosystems he's best to advise you
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
The MSD conversion with slightly bigger siemens injectors (53 Lbs I believe) should be good, keep everything as small as you can if you want response, a 4x4 inlet might be good. a good intercooler & exhaust are important, and if you fancy somthing different from the t35, how about a roller bearing version or a GT28, which should give mega response with good top end?
How much smaller is the gt28 to to gt30 i had?, i do really want response but still with nice torque to keep me pinned in the seat, i dont want to have to wait half way up the rev range for the power to come in, i would like it there pretty instant.
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AB07 inlet cam, T34.55, 4x4 inlet, mild head porting, 55lb / Greys, good intercooler

Job sorted

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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
AB07 inlet cam, T34.55, 4x4 inlet, mild head porting, 55lb / Greys, good intercooler

Job sorted

Steve

Would you need head porting as keeping most things small for response and the fact the heads can flow biggish bhp as standard ?
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Originally Posted by coswurv
Would you need head porting as keeping most things small for response and the fact the heads can flow biggish bhp as standard ?
Im not a Tuner lol

You can get over 380bhp on a standard head.

I just had it done so the T34.55 breathed better top end.

Steve
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ive always fancied the gt28 on mine ment to be spot on. t34 .48 is the best for responce but cant see you getting 380 on that

I take it you regret selling the saph then ?
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what's your budget?

cheap budget would be

t34.63
blacks 55lbs
bd14/ ab07 inlet
standard exhaust
standard comp

t34.63 will make the power and have that mid range spike, run it with a set of 55lbs black and you can run the turbo flat out. its ideal for a road spec, monster mid range bang

what turbo exactly did you have before, was it a gt3071r? what exhaust housing? because it shouldnt have been really laggy at all

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might well be worth lighten and balance the bottom end too? may help ease a few more and add to reliability too?? maybe eb better off speaking to the rally boys, 300bhp limit(ish) but massive torque just a suggestion????
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8.8-9,2 :1 kompression.

BD14 cams.

GTX 30.. turbo.

tube xhaust manifold

a good inlet manifold like hart

650-800ml injektores

and a serius programmer to do the buisniss.

keap away from low comp. it´s not good for response.
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I had a t34.63 on a well ported head and siemens blacks that ran an NMS live map and had 32 psi by 3300 revs - not sure how much more midrange you might want
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your mega close to m.a.d pop down there and have a chat not only will you not have to go far but hes also the best lol
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
your mega close to m.a.d pop down there and have a chat not only will you not have to go far but hes also the best lol

Yeah but Mark doesnt map standard managemnet so ill have to invest a few k in autonic etc which is silly for what i want.
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Originally Posted by bigchez
I had a t34.63 on a well ported head and siemens blacks that ran an NMS live map and had 32 psi by 3300 revs - not sure how much more midrange you might want
No that sounds good enough to me.
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Originally Posted by coswurv
Yeah but Mark doesnt map standard managemnet so ill have to invest a few k in autonic etc which is silly for what i want.
Im shore he still sets up and works with standard management

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He does yeah, but means chips getting sent away for the corrections/updates to be made etc iirc, im just gonna go live map and do it once and do it properly this time.
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Im shore he still sets up and works with standard management
Not great if the map needs a tweak though
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go to martin for a live map, good choice why not ask him for the spec
aswell rather then gettin shite advice from some backstreet tuner wannabes
on here ?
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Im shore he still sets up and works with standard management
nice spelling m8 long night or always retarded ?
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Originally Posted by carcollector
go to martin for a live map, good choice why not ask him for the spec
aswell rather then gettin shite advice from some backstreet tuner wannabes
on here ?
Originally Posted by carcollector
nice spelling m8 long night or always retarded ?
Something about stones and glass houses?
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never mind the glass house, he wouldn't know what it means anyways
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Originally Posted by carcollector
nice spelling m8 long night or always retarded ?
you really are a f**king twat id love to meet you in real life
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Originally Posted by carcollector
never mind the glass house, he wouldn't know what it means anyways
Wouldent i? and hows that then do you no me?. No you dont your just being a knob as you have made yourself look a cock on here time and time again. So now trying to save face by being in the spelling police lol but if that makes you feel big then crack on!
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
Not great if the map needs a tweak though
Fair point
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Originally Posted by carcollector
go to martin for a live map, good choice why not ask him for the spec
aswell rather then gettin shite advice from some backstreet tuner wannabes
on here ?
Your being very harsh there I can only see good advice to the OP .
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T34.63
Light Blues or Blacks
4x4 Inlet
7:8:1 with valve cut outs
Standard Cams

Various other bits...

Very usable car, I love mine. No lag, does what it says on the tin
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Originally Posted by carcollector
nice spelling m8 long night or always retarded ?
Being a cock yet again I see?
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Originally Posted by opposite lock
Your being very harsh there I can only see good advice to the OP .
not trying to be harsh but in the end theres people ot there that do it for a living so why not get their professional opinion if you want to spend some hard earned ?

most people giving advice here are enthusiasts who mean well but still are enthusiasts, not pros.

if you want martin to map it i'd ask him what to do, as said previously.

hope noone feels offended yet again.....
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T34.48 mate brillint, just won't be as free revving as the .63 but.much better response wise.

55lb or blues with a inlet cam, and your away, great road engine
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Ps your 205 block with 92 mm pistons will be your downfall, as over 30psi (that's what our chops run others could be more or less) mid range boost could break the 205
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
Ps your 205 block with 92 mm pistons will be your downfall, as over 30psi (that's what our chops run others could be more or less) mid range boost could break the 205
Ive just sourced a 205 block on standard bore Jim so i will get the wiseco's to suit that mate.
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Originally Posted by carcollector
not trying to be harsh but in the end theres people ot there that do it for a living so why not get their professional opinion if you want to spend some hard earned ?

most people giving advice here are enthusiasts who mean well but still are enthusiasts, not pros.

if you want martin to map it i'd ask him what to do, as said previously.

hope noone feels offended yet again.....
No not all of us are pro,s but they are on here aswell as the enthusiasts who have experienced different setups mentioned . 'Shite advice backstreet tuner wannabee,s' and you weren,t trying
People are going to feel offended with comments like that i,m afraid .
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i had an scs engine in my 3dr - 200 block, ported polished head, lo comp, Mountune K2 inlet, std exhaust cam, t34 0.63 and motorsport blues - made the same torque as bhp everytime - 400 bhp - great road engine and even on track it was excellent
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Originally Posted by coswurv
Ive just sourced a 205 block on standard bore Jim so i will get the wiseco's to suit that mate.
Personally I wouldn't use a 205 block mate, and most certainly not Wiseco pistons, rate them the same as Wossner.

I was in the same boat as you and Jim finally got my head round to buying a decent 200 block and new Mahle's, can't even begin to tell you how happy and lucky I am to have made that choice. Build it once, build it right


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