Coilover spring rates for 3DR-What do you run??
15-02-2005, 05:22 PM
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Coilover spring rates for 3DR-What do you run??
What do 3DR people with Coilovers run spring rate wise????
My car will be for Road use and was just wondering what others use?
Front and Rear please
My car will be for Road use and was just wondering what others use?
Front and Rear please
15-02-2005, 05:39 PM
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I got avo coil overs waiting to go on my 3 door how do i tell what rate the springs are is it stamped on the spring?????? or are they colour coded???
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15-02-2005, 11:25 PM
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Tiff remember there are other factors sutch as rateing of dampers as well as spring rate,i run 10" x 300ilb front and 12" x 220 ilb rear, find the rear a bit skippy so i am going to change to 180,it,s a case of suck it and see,which make of coil overs are you useing ?
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15-02-2005, 11:38 PM
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Will be checking damper ratting when they are off,they are tarmac 909 jobbies,useing 909 rose jointed top mounts and compression struts,find it very firm on the road and a lot more controlable when it steps out,which is quite a lot
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15-02-2005, 11:45 PM
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great for stepping out on dry roundabouts mate have the car off the road just know getting an engine rebuild,so dought i will get to try it out this year, 
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ps,fancy bbs centre locks for it,if you ever know any body selling a set
have the car off the road just know getting an engine rebuild,so dought i will get to try it out this year, cheeRS stu
ps,fancy bbs centre locks for it,if you ever know any body selling a set
15-02-2005, 11:50 PM
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Leda 10" 400LB Front
650lb in the stock location we can run a rear coilover with our standard rear caliper location.
My car is a bit of a freak.
650lb in the stock location we can run a rear coilover with our standard rear caliper location.
My car is a bit of a freak.
16-02-2005, 07:36 AM
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Ryan,
You're the one that is going to have terminal low speed understeer
. 450lb IMO is way to hard for anything other than a dedicated track car - if that is all yours will be, then .
However, as has been pointed out it does depend on the damping rates as well.
People should get out of their heads that high spring rates = good handling
. The tyre needs to be in contact with the road to give good handling . Speccing a spring rate that is too high will mean the bumps will cause the wheel to skip and jump off the bumps rather than follow the up and down undulations....
You're the one that is going to have terminal low speed understeer
. 450lb IMO is way to hard for anything other than a dedicated track car - if that is all yours will be, then .However, as has been pointed out it does depend on the damping rates as well.
People should get out of their heads that high spring rates = good handling
. The tyre needs to be in contact with the road to give good handling . Speccing a spring rate that is too high will mean the bumps will cause the wheel to skip and jump off the bumps rather than follow the up and down undulations....
16-02-2005, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Ryan,
You're the one that is going to have terminal low speed understeer. 450lb IMO is way to hard for anything other than a dedicated track car - if that is all yours will be, then .
You're the one that is going to have terminal low speed understeer
. 450lb IMO is way to hard for anything other than a dedicated track car - if that is all yours will be, then .
16-02-2005, 12:39 PM
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I used to run 400 front 250 rear - the rear was far far too hard so have gone to 180 I think??? to try to help it as it was WAY over sprung. Front is still 400 as the front is pretty heavy now LOL Not expecting good handling - but getting all corner weighted etc as we speak.
16-02-2005, 02:23 PM
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Mike LOL
i know what your saying alot of peeps get mislead with tarmac bilstiens there are about 50 different spec's of tarmac billys and with loads of different ratings and rebound speeds........ all this has to be taken in to consideration to get the right set up
i have had tried 4 diffent sets tarmac billys and at long last i have found a good match for rd and track use
to many peeps want to cut corners and not do it right ,and thats why their cars won't handle just slap anything on and think it's going to work just because it might feel firm on the rd don't mean to say it will go around corners quicker it's really like you said a whole package and the tca's more than anything is a must
i don't know a great deal but i know what works because i have spent loads trying to get the best of both worlds and i 'm well happy with it
sorted marco
i know what your saying
alot of peeps get mislead with tarmac bilstiens there are about 50 different spec's of tarmac billys and with loads of different ratings and rebound speeds........ all this has to be taken in to consideration to get the right set up i have had tried 4 diffent sets tarmac billys and at long last i have found a good match for rd and track use
to many peeps want to cut corners and not do it right ,and thats why their cars won't handle just slap anything on and think it's going to work just because it might feel firm on the rd don't mean to say it will go around corners quicker it's really like you said a whole package and the tca's more than anything is a must
i don't know a great deal but i know what works because i have spent loads trying to get the best of both worlds and i 'm well happy with it
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16-02-2005, 04:43 PM
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marco polo,
NO comment you lot seem to know everything i won't get involed
NO comment you lot seem to know everything i won't get involed
i know what your saying alot of peeps get mislead with tarmac bilstiens there are about 50 different spec's of tarmac billys and with loads of different ratings and rebound speeds........ all this has to be taken in to consideration to get the right set up
i have had tried 4 diffent sets tarmac billys and at long last i have found a good match for rd and track use
to many peeps want to cut corners and not do it right ,and thats why their cars won't handle just slap anything on and think it's going to work just because it might feel firm on the rd don't mean to say it will go around corners quicker it's really like you said a whole package
i have had tried 4 diffent sets tarmac billys and at long last i have found a good match for rd and track use
to many peeps want to cut corners and not do it right ,and thats why their cars won't handle just slap anything on and think it's going to work just because it might feel firm on the rd don't mean to say it will go around corners quicker it's really like you said a whole package
i you have a very good suspention setup , than you can actually save ya self some money , by not haveing to use ridiculous tyre sizes
i'll say no more 
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