Chopshop85

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Saw a program on TV last night about a team developing a car to reach 1000+mph

Wish I had caught the whole program and knew more about it. However, the air is going to be forced into the jet engine by a cosworth F1 engine so something to that effect. So as far as I'm concerned the fastes car in the world will be a cossie

http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/news/la..._1&cit_id=4935

ontheway

It's being driven by wing commander Andy Green in South Africa, i went to a two hour presentation by him at Goodwood. it was only open to members but it was extremely interesting, i have a poster all about it signed by Mr Green

focusv8

Edited from article.

Smit

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What is the landspeed record currently?

Madgit

Isn't it still Andy Green in Thrust SSC where he broke the sound barrier?

ontheway

yea he broke the Land speed record, then broke his own again and is now aiming to break 1000mph

Madgit

Just looked, yes it is him - 760mph

focusv8

Andy Green reached 763.035 mph (1227.99 km/h)


And he holds the Diesel record as well (in a JCB) 350.092 mph (563.418 km/h)

gjh

Thought this was going to be a thread about Mo for a second.







I apologize but someone had to.

focusv8

NO, DON'T appologise.

Madgit

give it time

Chopshop85

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Cheers! Couldn't be bothered to read the article after watching the program about it.

It's Czech Mate

Ah but can it do it at Brunters?!?

If not it doesn't count

scoooby slayer

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ajamesc

you really do have a thing about doing it at brunters dont you mate can you not see that doing a high top speed in a small distance shows how fast a car is in gear? or would you rather see a car have all the room in the world to do it because on a road car that shows fuck all really lol hence the reason brunters is a bench mark for speed testing on modded road cars!

It's Czech Mate

Touched a nerve have we

Top speeds runs are a two way pass over a measured distance, anything else isn't top speed, but a constrained top speed

It may be the benchmark to you but not to me, you could make a car for brunters thT would melt on. Proper top speed run

scoooby slayer

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whens it done in just 1 mile ? i thought it was more like 5 miles or something especially in the case of reaching 1000 mph ?
genuinely asking as i dont know

It's Czech Mate

I genuinely don't know for jet cars like that!

Brunters is more of an acceleration test IMO!

Smit

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Found a video on youtube and The SCC Thrust was 14yrs ago! Surprised they have left such a large gap between then and next years event.

ajamesc

not at all just makes me laugh how you always dis the fact people rate cars from doing there top speed at brunters i really dont get your point its a good gauge of in gear speed to be honest

ajamesc

acceleration test with a top speed at the end lol

It's Czech Mate

Totally agree AJC but it's not true top speed in my eyes for reasons stated

ajamesc

Well id disagree with you mate as if you have a very powerfull road car that can do its top speed in that small distance then its a good test! thats why many do it. All so many of these cars run there time and time again or ever 3 or 4 times in that one day so would not melt on your ''proper speed test'' id say to show how fast a road car is in gear its a very good test seeing how much it can get top end in that small distance!

It's Czech Mate

I'm sure rods for example would go much faster if it had longer to do it in as he could optimise the gearing, therefor if the cR can go faster elsewhere it isn't an outright top speed test, it's a topspeed with constraints test

ajamesc

Thats a fair point but its a road car and im sore his gearing is fairly close to standard and he knows what the car could do if every thing was spot on so only needs brunters which to me shows how fast cars like that are! I think playing around with gearing to make it go faster over a longer distance is cheating as it wouldent be as the car is on the road!

It's Czech Mate

I think ur wrong. I'd say for example rod has studied the gearing very hard and geared and mapped the car to optimise performance inside the confines of brunters, with gearing and probably cooling solutions altered it would no doubt be significantly faster given sufficient room

ajamesc

im not lol i know rod very well his gearing is not far from standard and it is optimised for performance as a fast road car in mind which he found to be very near to the standard gearing and take ad young if you want to talk about cosworths as he will soon be going for 200 i beleave he has standard gearing and yes would be faster with the gearing altered but thats not the point of the car as its a road car that dose 200 in its driven on the road state that just happens to have the power to do it at brunters

Brian ST-2

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I think tbh, comparing Rod's or anyone else's car to a land speed record, specially in relation to Bloodhound, is little short of...wellll

Also, the other main reason for the delay between Thrust SSC and Bloodhound is finance, planning, physics, engineering......all of these, especially finance are really hard things to come by, before you even consider it.
I'm sure, given half the chance a lot of the guys on here would love to take their high end top speed motors onto a salt flat, or dried lake bed, but the salt flats are in Bonneville, and the lake Andy Green is driving on is as already stated in South Africa.
Pour the money into development and building of what is effectively an outlandish road car, and it doesn't leave much change left for shipping to a remote desert.........albeit credit where it's due to those concerned.

Brunters is the benchmark for all things fast on British ''roads'', and that's the test 'normal' cars are designed and built around for top speed runs.

A jet car........just needs more spaaaace to get up to speed, measure it, then slow, even with the aid of a parachute, as no physical gearing is involved.

Not a rant, just my opinion, and by the way, I'm fookin keen to see if Andy can pilot this thing to that new record.

Ultimate

ajamesc

No one is in any way comparing it to the land speed record lol if you read the posts its a discussion on weather top speed in a road car at brunters is credible as showing a car is fast we are talking about as he always knocks doing it at brunters (not what the thred is about but never mind lol)

Brian ST-2

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Ok agreed, so the thread went ''off topic'' as usual when someone mentions top speed.

But on that point, since Brunters appears to be pretty much the only place to test in the uk for high speed road going cars, and those that have 'set records' have done it there, then there will always be the comparison made............

But please, back on topic......this is Britain trying to do AGAIN, what Britain has historically ALWAYS been pretty damned good at.

It's Czech Mate

It's not even that mate, it's the fact brunters isn't a 'top speed' test as it's constrained by distance, I doubt I'd get my car to it's top speed at brunters. But I can on the motorway.

Again, brunters is not ultimate top speed, I guarantee that most cars that have set a time there could achieve a higher speed over a longer distance

That is all I'm saying

Rod-Tarry

Can someone tell me what Brunters & shit Ford cars have got to do with achieving 1000mph in a jet car .

Thats true mine should reach 234mph (calculated) in about 4 miles but would require another 46secs on the throttle. The Cosworth topspeed record is 206.08mph done in 1.41miles the overall Sierra ( Merkur) Topspeed record is 211.4mph set at the Salt flats in just over 5 miles. Both are the fastest speed ever reached by their marque. Dont think Topspeed think fastest ever obtained & in the Uk that means using Brunters or Woodbridge as yet we dont have any salt flats or a Mira.
ps. A flickering Speedo reading downhill on the M1 with your lights out wont be accepted by all. Remember Mo's 371mph reached overtaking that Lambo has not been recognised by everyone on this Forum .

ajamesc

nothing at all to do achieving 1000mph rod lol he just knocks top speed at brunters all the time and i carnt really see why to be honnest as id say doing 200 there is an achivement as its not as if many do lol

It's Czech Mate

Fuck me , where am I knocking it? I'm just saying it isn't topspeed, even rod agrees!

ajamesc

ive seen a few threds now wear some one says about top speed and you pop up with a sarcastic ''if it carnt do it at brunters'' lol and rod dident agree he stated its all you can do in the uk! so as hes in the uk its all he and others can do as far as top speed gos

Jupiter TDCI

[quote=Chopshop85;5605405]Saw a program on TV last night about a team developing a car to reach 1000+mph

Wish I had caught the whole program and knew more about it. However, the air is going to be forced into the jet engine by a cosworth F1 engine so something to that effect. So as far as I'm concerned the fastes car in the world will be a cossie

The cosworth F! engine is being used as a fuel and hydraulic pump, the cars powered b a jet AND a rocket, crazy!

focusv8

And also powered by a pilot who will be wearing brown trousers by the end of each run.

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It's Czech Mate

So which bit of 'don't think of it as top speed' that rod said isn't making sense?

And I made my brunters comment because it's funny, hence the other folk laughing!

ajamesc

lol dont try and turn it round mate he is going to brunters to do a top speed run lol the top speed he can reach in that distance! so fair enough a lot of it is a show of the cars power in gear but he is going there to do its top speed at that strip of air field! he says dont think top speed as the other sierra did 211,4 over 5 miles! he can not do that in the uk but thats not here nore there as he will beat that in the 1.4 the uk offers lol

It's Czech Mate

How an I turning it around! Ive said all along it's not total topspeed bur topspeed constrained by a distance, you've said it yourself! What ARE you arguing about!?

Even rod said it's nor the cars top speed? Are u an idiot or something?