Car damaged in pub car park...by their own sign, where do i stand?
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Car damaged in pub car park...by their own sign, where do i stand?
My car has been damaged by one of the triangular signs they put outside pubs with whats in this week etc etc, it has damaged the rear quarter and drivers door quite badly and as all the panels are new and the car has recently had a 2.3k overhaul im understandably gutted, now the landlord only has the lease of the pub (greene king) so i assume hes not bothered as its down to the brewery, but someone i know pretty much runs the place, and has said the boss isnt back till monday but will talk to them as soon as hes back.
NOW they have the sign fallin onto my car on cctv, and their is nothing AT ALL that says anything left in this car park is down to the owner blah blah, so where do you think i stand?, surely this is a public liability issue? as if the sign hit a child suurely they would pay out? whats ur opinions?
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NOW they have the sign fallin onto my car on cctv, and their is nothing AT ALL that says anything left in this car park is down to the owner blah blah, so where do you think i stand?, surely this is a public liability issue? as if the sign hit a child suurely they would pay out? whats ur opinions?
Many thanks Adam
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It will to some extent depend on how the sign came to impact your car and whether there's any clear negligence by those responsible for it.
e.g. if it was caught by an extreme unexpected gust of wind then it may be an "Act of God" and you'll need to claim on your own insurance.
e.g. if it was caught by an extreme unexpected gust of wind then it may be an "Act of God" and you'll need to claim on your own insurance.
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I would think that it is down to the licensee, as they are responsible for the day to day business. Having a lease just means that they are tied to buying certain things from the brewery (Greene King) and rent the premises. If it was a managed house, then it would definitely be the brewery but a lease is basically, for the sake of argument very similar to a franchise. I can't say for definite because all leases are different but I used to run a leased pub and if a similar thing happened at my pub, I'm pretty sure that I would have to pay for your damages. Or claim through my insurance.
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It will to some extent depend on how the sign came to impact your car and whether there's any clear negligence by those responsible for it.
e.g. if it was caught by an extreme unexpected gust of wind then it may be an "Act of God" and you'll need to claim on your own insurance.
e.g. if it was caught by an extreme unexpected gust of wind then it may be an "Act of God" and you'll need to claim on your own insurance.
If it was windy then it should have been secured or taken inside, A-boards are a menace and should be banned!
They will have public liability insurance and can claim against that for this type of thing.
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I would say if the sign has fallen due to being improperly secured then you have a good chance as it wasnt properly secured...did you take pictures at the time?
If however it has been kicked over or thrown at you car then they may pull the parked at owners risk.
If however it has been kicked over or thrown at you car then they may pull the parked at owners risk.
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The good old maypole, who is running that place now? used to get raided all the bloody time when we drank there years ago.
p.s sorry to hear about your motor, i would request a copy of the cctv just in case it gets deleted by accident...
p.s sorry to hear about your motor, i would request a copy of the cctv just in case it gets deleted by accident...
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I would have thought either way it would be their liablilty surely its negligence on their part if it hasnt been secured sufficiently, especially when it has been placed on the boundry of a designated car park?
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I would think that it is down to the licensee, as they are responsible for the day to day business. Having a lease just means that they are tied to buying certain things from the brewery (Greene King) and rent the premises. If it was a managed house, then it would definitely be the brewery but a lease is basically, for the sake of argument very similar to a franchise. I can't say for definite because all leases are different but I used to run a leased pub and if a similar thing happened at my pub, I'm pretty sure that I would have to pay for your damages. Or claim through my insurance.
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Theres no sign... there will be in future the landlord has said, but looks like they are going to payout after speaking with the landlord tonight! so happy days
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