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Old 30-08-2011, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by mk1 dan
To all concerned with middx rs owners do at Power engineering.......
After a cracking day when we put 31 of your cars on the dyno enjoyed better weather than expected fed and watered you all, it all went terribly wrong. We put our hands up if you didnt have your hoses connected or secured correctly after your run it is our over sight. No excuses about short staffed over bank holday etc it is our fault.
Plugs will be sent out to moonstone steve and he will be welcome to a free rolling road tune please let us have your details. However will fully understand if you do not want to visit us again, we just want to put things right. Sorry if this has spoilt anyones day and can only hope that you can one day trust us with your cars again.

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No worries from me thanks for the day it must have been difficult with all the people asking questions etc

I'll be back with mine soon
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Originally Posted by DAN-Saff
And I bet you'd wear your nice skirt from Dorothy Perkins just to be different

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Lol, no RS and no RSOC t-shirt so I probably would opt for the flowery dress
Old 30-08-2011, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mk1 dan
To all concerned with middx rs owners do at Power engineering.......
After a cracking day when we put 31 of your cars on the dyno enjoyed better weather than expected fed and watered you all, it all went terribly wrong. We put our hands up if you didnt have your hoses connected or secured correctly after your run it is our over sight. No excuses about short staffed over bank holday etc it is our fault.
Plugs will be sent out to moonstone steve and he will be welcome to a free rolling road tune please let us have your details. However will fully understand if you do not want to visit us again, we just want to put things right. Sorry if this has spoilt anyones day and can only hope that you can one day trust us with your cars again.

Keith and Dan Power Engineering
Nice one Dan had a great day at powers ! will be back with a gt35 on seat once i prize crossy's wallet off him lol
Old 30-08-2011, 11:21 AM
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ohhh my video not working lolshame that lol
Old 30-08-2011, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
you appear to be more careful with your money than steve 4i roflol
That is MY crown and nobody is having it

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Originally Posted by mk1 dan
Plugs will be sent out to moonstone steve and he will be welcome to a free rolling road tune please let us have your details. However will fully understand if you do not want to visit us again, we just want to put things right.

Keith and Dan Power Engineering
Round 2 then short stuff

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Old 30-08-2011, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
ohhh my video not working lolshame that lol
Doug - i think its just taking time to load.

Maybe save it from my link and rehost it
Old 30-08-2011, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
Doug - i think its just taking time to load.

Maybe save it from my link and rehost it
None of yours worked for me the other day when i tried

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bandwidth exceeded i guess.

steve and doug pm me your tel numbers and i will MMs thur from my phone to yours.
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Originally Posted by mk1 dan
To all concerned with middx rs owners do at Power engineering.......
After a cracking day when we put 31 of your cars on the dyno enjoyed better weather than expected fed and watered you all, it all went terribly wrong. We put our hands up if you didnt have your hoses connected or secured correctly after your run it is our over sight. No excuses about short staffed over bank holday etc it is our fault.
Plugs will be sent out to moonstone steve and he will be welcome to a free rolling road tune please let us have your details. However will fully understand if you do not want to visit us again, we just want to put things right. Sorry if this has spoilt anyones day and can only hope that you can one day trust us with your cars again.

Keith and Dan Power Engineering
Pm sent Dan,

Many thanks for the offer and I will be visiting for that setup

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Old 30-08-2011, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
Round 2 then short stuff

Steve
Give it a rest

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Old 30-08-2011, 04:18 PM
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glad its all sorted out and PE havent tryed to shy away and took full responsibility!
Old 30-08-2011, 04:19 PM
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handled very well on PE's part me thinks.
Old 30-08-2011, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Pm sent Dan,

Many thanks for the offer and I will be visiting for that setup

Moan Stone Steve
hi steve thanks for being so understanding give me a ring at powers on 01895 255699 to discuss actuator and when you would like to book in with us have also sent pm
Old 30-08-2011, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Give it a rest

Steve
What day you booking it in

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Old 30-08-2011, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Pm sent Dan,

Many thanks for the offer and I will be visiting for that setup

Moan Stone Steve
So hadn't you better MODIFY your sig now MOANSTONE to PE are the bestiss.......







Good work there from PE though...
Old 30-08-2011, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
What day you booking it in

Steve
Not telling you

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Old 30-08-2011, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KODAK
So hadn't you better MODIFY your sig now MOANSTONE to PE are the bestiss.......







Good work there from PE though...
That in my sig isn't my doing Pete, but will be amended I think

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Old 30-08-2011, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by KODAK
So hadn't you better MODIFY your sig now MOANSTONE to PE are the bestiss.......

agreed
Old 30-08-2011, 04:58 PM
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Siggy amended

Will await the outcome of the RR session before the praise begins

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
That in my sig isn't my doing Pete, but will be amended I think

Steve


If you need something in your Sig Steve slag that lanky coont off....
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Oh and another thing, I HOPE TO GOD you beat his shitty 456bhp fake cossie cus that will make my fooking day....
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Originally Posted by KODAK
Oh and another thing, I HOPE TO GOD you beat his shitty 456bhp fake cossie cus that will make my fooking day....
We will see what happens m8, for sure anything over the 456 mark is going to be a bonus.

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my son did record all the dyno runs that fast ford covered so I will get his camera later and youtube it for you all

Originally Posted by KODAK
Oh and another thing, I HOPE TO GOD you beat his shitty 456bhp fake cossie cus that will make my fooking day....
dan-saf did tell me if he knew it was going to be so close he would have turned the boost up to pip stevie boy

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Old 30-08-2011, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
We will see what happens m8, for sure anything over the 456 mark is going to be a bonus.

Steve
But if it ain't done on the same day it don't count

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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
But if it ain't done on the same day it don't count

Steve
Bothered i aint

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Anyone can see that both them t4 rr runs are done very badly!!moonstone steves and mechanic 28s have both come right up on the front rollers then slipped and fallen back into the rears causing a totally wrong reading and the op to come of the throttle..

On a t4 powered car like both of these the power comes later than say a t38 or t34 car but comes in alot harder and needs to be strapped totally different..

The bounce on the graph proves this infact moonstones bounce was alot worse but infact made the power line higher than mec 28s because the bunce was worse..

You can clearly see both these cars can make record a much better graph showing the true power..

the rpm compared to power on mechanic 28s would indeed be around the 490 hp mark on a proper well straped run..

Thers 2 reasons 4is was down on tourque and the main one being less peak boost and the second reason is because when hes car made the best torque fig it was on a bloody cold day and peaking shit loads of boost..

Both the steves cars run back to back on a dd rr properly strapped would prove moonstones to win hands down with mechanic 28s being as good if not better...
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Originally Posted by RSTurboTrev
Anyone can see that both them t4 rr runs are done very badly!!moonstone steves and mechanic 28s have both come right up on the front rollers then slipped and fallen back into the rears causing a totally wrong reading and the op to come of the throttle..

On a t4 powered car like both of these the power comes later than say a t38 or t34 car but comes in alot harder and needs to be strapped totally different..

The bounce on the graph proves this infact moonstones bounce was alot worse but infact made the power line higher than mec 28s because the bunce was worse..

You can clearly see both these cars can make record a much better graph showing the true power..

the rpm compared to power on mechanic 28s would indeed be around the 490 hp mark on a proper well straped run..

Thers 2 reasons 4is was down on tourque and the main one being less peak boost and the second reason is because when hes car made the best torque fig it was on a bloody cold day and peaking shit loads of boost..

Both the steves cars run back to back on a dd rr properly strapped would prove moonstones to win hands down with mechanic 28s being as good if not better...
LOL so you would strap a big horse power car tight in there to get a correct reading would you well the rear roller does not read so the car needs as much grip on the front roller to get the power reading correct , so it wont be massivly tight to get it to squat on the reading roller , but a cold day will effect act
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Could there be a reason for Doug and Steves T4 cars not to have made the power they should have though?

I know bot all about how a set of rollers works/reads as Ive never been into number chasing, but do you think Trev above has a point that something when those cars were ran affected the readings?

Or are they just both crap
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Originally Posted by Jay Cos
well the rear roller does not read so the car needs as much grip on the front roller to get the power reading correct
Is this a RWD car?? Why aren't the rear rollers reading?? I haven't read the whole thread so I've probably misunderstood.

Edit!! I get it! I thought you meant the front rollers!!!! Not the front of the rear.

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Originally Posted by BigErn
Could there be a reason for Doug and Steves T4 cars not to have made the power they should have though?

I know bot all about how a set of rollers works/reads as Ive never been into number chasing, but do you think Trev above has a point that something when those cars were ran affected the readings?

Or are they just both crap
well all i can say is there both mechanicly sound it could be timing at the top end of the map or they could be a very slight leak at full boost

but i think your right tbh there both crap
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Is this a RWD car?? Why aren't the rear rollers reading?? I haven't read the whole thread so I've probably misunderstood.

Edit!! I get it! I thought you meant the front rollers!!!! Not the front of the rear.
lol sorry my bad way of putting it lol
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Originally Posted by RSTurboTrev
Anyone can see that both them t4 rr runs are done very badly!!moonstone steves and mechanic 28s have both come right up on the front rollers then slipped and fallen back into the rears causing a totally wrong reading and the op to come of the throttle..

On a t4 powered car like both of these the power comes later than say a t38 or t34 car but comes in alot harder and needs to be strapped totally different..

The bounce on the graph proves this infact moonstones bounce was alot worse but infact made the power line higher than mec 28s because the bunce was worse..

You can clearly see both these cars can make record a much better graph showing the true power..

the rpm compared to power on mechanic 28s would indeed be around the 490 hp mark on a proper well straped run..

Thers 2 reasons 4is was down on tourque and the main one being less peak boost and the second reason is because when hes car made the best torque fig it was on a bloody cold day and peaking shit loads of boost..

Both the steves cars run back to back on a dd rr properly strapped would prove moonstones to win hands down with mechanic 28s being as good if not better...
First off who are you ? Luke or Danny ?

You seem to know a lot about my runs at EP

I have both boost graphs from EP and PE and they are near enough identical on both peak boost and held boost.

You are correct that it was colder when the car was run at EP, 9c colder if you must know.

I can't see how its 80lb/ft less on PEs rollers

Steve
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
First off who are you ? Luke or Danny ?

You seem to know a lot about my runs at EP



Steve

We need the PF Undercover Police onto then if it is Steve..
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Originally Posted by KODAK
We need the PF Undercover Police onto then if it is Steve..
It says Horsham as the location, same as EP

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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
It says Horsham as the location, same as EP

Steve
Defo has to be Danny or Luke then..........
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Taken from another thread

Originally Posted by RSTurboTrev
I work for danny at hes paintshop
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Originally Posted by BigErn
Taken from another thread
There you go Steve, niether of them.......

But you may go to the top of the class for NEARLY being right Sherlock...

I bet it's Danny or Luke logged in on his account though
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Mine is down on power as its not making as much boost, 5psi down to what i have on my EP graph, my car never come out the rollers when on the power although i did notice one and i think it was Doug's car which came right up onto the top of the front roller, which is correct fook nose.

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Boost graphs





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