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Old 31-08-2011, 12:14 PM
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it says it has 40mb memory which isn't a lot...

Camera £60
Card and case £80
Old 31-08-2011, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Westy
it says it has 40mb memory which isn't a lot...

Camera £60
Card and case £80
does make you laugh how the complex camera is cheaper than a plastic bag I mean case and a small plastic memory card
Old 31-08-2011, 12:21 PM
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lets hope Amazon delivery is quicker than your eBay purchase Tony

I may buy a bumbag to put it in... second thoghts, can I borrow yours

Camera accessories are a rip off!
Old 31-08-2011, 12:26 PM
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my bum bag is now redundant it is for sale on ebay
the x wife emptied that as well
my camera will be here 2.50 to 3.50 pm according to dpp tracking

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Old 31-08-2011, 12:37 PM
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bet ya can't wait.
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do you still hear from Matt Bell? The bumbag comment reminded me about him
Old 31-08-2011, 12:40 PM
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it's taken that long I have lost interest
Matt got a new women in his life a few years ago so I guess he has to do as he is told
now
not seen or heard from him in years
Old 31-08-2011, 02:14 PM
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my new toy has just arrived
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
my new toy has just arrived
OH FOOK, God help us.........
Old 31-08-2011, 02:51 PM
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don't panic The sd card hasn't arrived yet
fookin cheap camera though ebay has it's uses
Old 31-08-2011, 05:16 PM
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Well after about 2 weeks of twatting about I finally bought....,

Canon 450d
18-55mm canon lens
70-200mm canon lens
2 x 8gb sandisk extreme pro sd cards
Tripod
USB thingy to put sd card in


God help me now lol....
Old 31-08-2011, 05:17 PM
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I think I'm possibly less technical with cameras than Tony....., lol
Old 31-08-2011, 05:22 PM
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the problem with cameras is the amount of choice out there and the clever marketing of the models
wait till you start to look at lenses
you'll be impressed with your 450d
Old 31-08-2011, 05:45 PM
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It's a bleeding minefield...... I was only looking at Canon, be even worse if I was looking at other makes as well lol.

Can't wait for next week now
Old 31-08-2011, 06:10 PM
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the lenses you need are far more expensive than the camera lol
what lens did you order with your camera

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I'll have a look tomorrow as order is on work pc
Old 31-08-2011, 06:24 PM
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Tony i dont have the lens you mentioned, selling a heap of stuff just now to get my 5dmk2 ipads gone today, got the 2 lenses and a brand new sat nav all up for sale.

Oh and the 450D is a super camera, i had one before i got the 550D. I only upgraded for HD video, and i still never have used it

Tony, have you downloaded the "canon lenses" app on the iphone?

Christ you may not have an iphone it was stu i was mentioning ithings too

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Old 31-08-2011, 06:39 PM
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How come everyone here is into zoom lenses?
Prime lenses is where the real picture quality is....unless you want to carry all those heavy 2.8 zooms around..

My kit is:

Canon EOS 5D markII

Canon EF 50mm F/1.4 USM
Canon EF 85mm F/1.8 USM
Canon EF 135mm F/2.0L USM

Nikon 60mm F/2.8 macro

Canon Speedlite 430 EX II flash

It can take some incredible pictures this gear....
and i have NEVER been limited by 3,9 pics pr second either... and I shoot alot of pictures at trackdays and so on

Primes are relatively cheap compared to the IQ you get... and very light

And for street photography and holidays.. I use my Fuji X100... probably my favourite camera of all times

cheeRS Christian

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Old 31-08-2011, 06:48 PM
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What language was that as I understood none of it lol....
Old 31-08-2011, 06:56 PM
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Tony do you have a monopod, if not investing in one is a good idea, much better than lugging a tripod around all day, and they come in carbon fibre .

Manfrotto is where it's at...

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-...onopod_1028538

Ginge
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Originally Posted by SteveB
What language was that as I understood none of it lol....
Swenglish
Old 31-08-2011, 07:21 PM
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cbp you have a real camera we only have toys
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
cbp you have a real camera we only have toys
Once you go full frame sensor... there is NO going back to crop sensor
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let the willy waving begin
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Originally Posted by Ginge
Tony do you have a monopod, if not investing in one is a good idea, much better than lugging a tripod around all day, and they come in carbon fibre .

Manfrotto is where it's at...

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-...onopod_1028538

Ginge
139 quid for an extendible stick fook off
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My tripod was under a tenner on amazon lol
Old 31-08-2011, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveB
My tripod was under a tenner on amazon lol
and you get 3 legs for that
so £3.33 for the one leg version
Old 31-08-2011, 08:24 PM
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gorilla pods are great, although i say that only owning a little compact and a fuji bridge. don't know how good they are for slrs.
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Originally Posted by cbp
How come everyone here is into zoom lenses?

Probably because it makes it easier to stand in a location and get your shot rather than have to stand in an exact location due to the limits of the lens. It's also easier to carry one lens than three.
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The point is... get a good prime lens instead of all these zoom lenses, you said it yourself that you mainly use the 18-55 lens.... and i think that most of your pictures are shot around the 30-35mm mark. So instead of using a crappy 18-55 lens that needs much light to get a decent picture... Get a good 35mm F/2.0 lens (canon EF 35mm F/2) or the Canon 35mm F/1.4L USM if you can afford it. The picture quality on those lenses are just awesome... and in the case of the Canon 35mm F/2.0 it's cheap and very light.

Primes also forces you to think a little bit more when shooting.
The 17-55 F/2.8 lens is a good performer.... but it is a big chunk of glass and the weight on a 600d body is just a bit to much for my liking, it is also a fair bit more of money that easily can be used elsewhere. You really don't need every mm in the lenses you know
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Originally Posted by Fast Guy
Probably because it makes it easier to stand in a location and get your shot rather than have to stand in an exact location due to the limits of the lens. It's also easier to carry one lens than three.
And that is the reason most people stay in the green auto mode
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cbp makes a good point, but has the advantage of a full frame sensor so can afford to crop images down if he can't get tight enough in the first place.
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
cbp makes a good point, but has the advantage of a full frame sensor so can afford to crop images down if he can't get tight enough in the first place.

The 600d have enough resolution for cropping aswell
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just won an efs 17-55mm IS usm f2.8
they fetch big money even second hand
the technical reviews I have read rate this lens very highly for the small frame cameras
cbp a 35mm ef lens wont give us small lens folk a focal length of 35mm

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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
just won an efs 17-55mm IS usm f2.8
they fetch big money even second hand
the technical reviews I have read rate this lens very highly for the small frame cameras
cbp a 35mm ef lens wont give us small lens folk a focal length of 35mm
I know it won't, but it will give you slightly over 50 mm which is in my book the most useful focal length, there is a reason why the 50mm lens on a full frame is called "the nifty fifty".
I have had the big zooms back in the days of film but after carrying a lens all day weighing almost 1 kg and realising i mostly used the 50mm setting i bought a 50mm and it has been my most used lens ever since.....

But everyone is different and have different preferances... but store the info in the back of your head and see what focal length you use most of the time..
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I'll definitely give some thought and mental notes to the focal length I tend to use the most next time I'm snapping away
presently the shots I have been taking have been varied
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
just won an efs 17-55mm IS usm f2.8
congratulations! it's brilliant when you win stuff for free i won a trackday last week, doing it in september
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
congratulations! it's brilliant when you win stuff for free i won a trackday last week, doing it in september

i won it on ebay for £650
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Originally Posted by Tony Mannock
the lenses you need are far more expensive than the camera lol
what lens did you order with your camera
Canon EF 80-200mm F4.5-5.6 MKII Zoom Lens

Canon EF-S 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 Autofocus Zoom Lens‏


They must be good theres lots of letters and stuff in the titles....
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Originally Posted by SteveB
Canon EF 80-200mm F4.5-5.6 MKII Zoom Lens

Canon EF-S 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 Autofocus Zoom Lens‏


They must be good theres lots of letters and stuff in the titles....
ef 80 -200 or ef S
assume the other is the efs 18-55 f3.5-5.6 IS cheap kit lens good alround performer
the ef 80 -200 you have does not get any good reviews
being an ef fitted to your small optical sensor camera your focal length of 80mm will be more like 120mm

here's a link that explains it all
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/C...op-Factor.aspx that will give you a head ache lol

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