Combe today...
#41
Well, he did...
I was waiting for him and we has a chat. He lost his pedal altogether (something that's happened to me, more than once)
He pumped his brakes like mad and grabbed the handbrake, he was saying it was probably his pads, but i suggested to check that no brake lines were touching anything hot....then we noticed just how close his screamer was to the brake reservoir....it needs investigation, but he 100% lost all braking and had no chance
I was waiting for him and we has a chat. He lost his pedal altogether (something that's happened to me, more than once)
He pumped his brakes like mad and grabbed the handbrake, he was saying it was probably his pads, but i suggested to check that no brake lines were touching anything hot....then we noticed just how close his screamer was to the brake reservoir....it needs investigation, but he 100% lost all braking and had no chance
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He has quite a few lightweight panels on it though so I guess it must be very light ( even a standard MGBGT is no porker though )
#46
Great show, Ian was super organised as normal, couldnt ask for more from the RSOC guys, but boy did combe fuck us up the arse in the afternoon with the track sesisons when they through that extra drift session in.
As per one of the other guys on here, we queued up then got asked to move from the queue we were in, then had to wait for FIVE sessions to go out before it was deemed our turn again, and then no time for another go.
Consider you are paying for a whole trackday, I think its a bit off that NO ONE I spoke to managed to get in more than 2 sessions in the whole afternoon and instead spent 3 hours worth of queing for 30 mins time on track, NOT acceptable IMHO.
I realise combe cant be held responsible for the red flag incidents that caused some of the delays, but the drifting was far more of an issue than the red flags.
I think that if they are going to put a second drifting session on then they should at least have the decency to do it after the track time has finished, as it takes them so long to go out clean up after the drift session picking up all the rubber etc that it just made an enormous queue that simply never got cleared off again.
Real shame, as other than the afternoon being all queue and no track time it was a fantastic day.
As per one of the other guys on here, we queued up then got asked to move from the queue we were in, then had to wait for FIVE sessions to go out before it was deemed our turn again, and then no time for another go.
Consider you are paying for a whole trackday, I think its a bit off that NO ONE I spoke to managed to get in more than 2 sessions in the whole afternoon and instead spent 3 hours worth of queing for 30 mins time on track, NOT acceptable IMHO.
I realise combe cant be held responsible for the red flag incidents that caused some of the delays, but the drifting was far more of an issue than the red flags.
I think that if they are going to put a second drifting session on then they should at least have the decency to do it after the track time has finished, as it takes them so long to go out clean up after the drift session picking up all the rubber etc that it just made an enormous queue that simply never got cleared off again.
Real shame, as other than the afternoon being all queue and no track time it was a fantastic day.
Last edited by Chip; 04-07-2011 at 10:18 AM.
#47
Less than 2 mins to do the outlap, 8 mins gives you then 4 or 5 flying laps and then a cooldown lap and in.
All the action days at combe you get 10 mins or less IME (they advertise as 15 mins but I have an extensive library of in car footage that shows you NEVER get more than 10 mins!)
That is still plenty enough time to enjoy IMHO, and certainly would be worth it if it didnt mean queuing for well over an hour to get out like yesterday afternoon.
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I do agree though that its nice to decide on how long you stay out for, sometimes its nice to go and put 2 laps in to check something then come straight in, but if you are on a 15 mins fixed session and you know its an hour or more till you can get through the queue again you end up staying out anyway, so it works both ways really with forcing a time limit on people, some end up out for longer than they want and some out for less than they want.
More cars on track at a time would have been a good idea too IMHO, the track was practically empty and if twice as many cars were out at a time like on an action day there would have been no queues at all I would think.
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Its a friends of a friends dad that owns it and I think he said it was around 800kg
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very well set up car for combe remember being out with my mate in his evo which was about 380 bhp he held us for about 5 laps then let us buy was so good to see this mgbgt going so well with not alot of power
#53
I enjoyed watching that white 3-door chase Si B's Evo round a couple of years ago as well - very entertaining
#54
Didn't go to Combe but I just had to post a vid of that Mgb Gt, wish mine was half as quick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVBLT...e_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVBLT...e_gdata_player
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he was hammering it after a scobby i notice he past a blue one then chased it hard after the scobby past him i said to my mate he is going to have a pisser soon he is driving it hard now then 2 laps latter he went wide on to the grass then in to a tyre wall didnt look lke he lost his brakes...
was a good day drifters were awsome this year that mark 2 escort and toyota were mental..
i notice the wait for some of you to get on track i was looking forward to doing this next year but after what ive been reading on here i dont i would bother...
also some tosser on castle combe facebook page said no camping and there was
was a good day drifters were awsome this year that mark 2 escort and toyota were mental..
i notice the wait for some of you to get on track i was looking forward to doing this next year but after what ive been reading on here i dont i would bother...
also some tosser on castle combe facebook page said no camping and there was
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i had a good day , appart from what has allready been mentioned only got out 3 times on the track due to que , they where very long for what is a very good track day
and as for the drift cars yeh they are good to watch , but was there need for them to be out twice ?????????
lest hope next year is better , open pit lane maybe
and as for the drift cars yeh they are good to watch , but was there need for them to be out twice ?????????
lest hope next year is better , open pit lane maybe
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Not really. Ive done the same down a country lane at 100 mph and if u panic you can really hurt yourself. Nees to mentqlly prepare yourself for as many situations as you can. Im not picking holes. But surely if your gana go on track and put your life on the line you need to have enough knowledge and training to prepare the car safely so brakes dont fail and be able to control the car when things go wrong??
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Not really. Ive done the same down a country lane at 100 mph and if u panic you can really hurt yourself. Nees to mentqlly prepare yourself for as many situations as you can. Im not picking holes. But surely if your gana go on track and put your life on the line you need to have enough knowledge and training to prepare the car safely so brakes dont fail and be able to control the car when things go wrong??
So you lost brakes at 100mph on a country lane? And controlled it with no issues?.......big country lane then
He didn't panic. He lost his brakes, realised, pumped them, still nothing so grabbed the handbrake and ran out of space.
How do you get the knowledge and training without going on track or having experiences like that? I know i always learn big lessons through mistakes, i'm sure he has.
His brakes were brutally effective all day,i know because i was discussing his set-up and the track with him the night before, but on the last session they failed. So the car and his mind were also prepared as well as you could hope.
Accidents happen, preaching through hindsight will never change that. Nobody was hurt and no other cars damaged.
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Brakes dont just disappear. I agree you need to go onto track to get experience. A few days with instructors and schools go a lot further than any bolt on part. If ge had 5.1 in there then even sat next to an exhaust shouldnt overheat. And if his pads melted then should of been thinking about that. Im not trying to pick fights or stir things up. Or say im a better driver. But there is a reason why we spent 4 months getting cars ready
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Simon Norris had the same issue IIRC.
His calipers and disks got hot, then on the straight transferred the heat to the fluid, then the fluid didnt respond when he pressed the pedal as it had boiled.
His calipers and disks got hot, then on the straight transferred the heat to the fluid, then the fluid didnt respond when he pressed the pedal as it had boiled.
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Erm....yeah they can!!
Brake fade can give you "some" warning, boiled fluid does not. Pedal there...pedal gone!
I have experience of this, last big one forced me to throw the car into a spin at big speed on the end of the straight at silverstone.
and Chip gives another example....obviously Simon Norris knows nothing about how to prepare a car also.
Brake fade can give you "some" warning, boiled fluid does not. Pedal there...pedal gone!
I have experience of this, last big one forced me to throw the car into a spin at big speed on the end of the straight at silverstone.
and Chip gives another example....obviously Simon Norris knows nothing about how to prepare a car also.
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In the video when it happened to Simon, he has an in car camera too and you could see him furiously pumping the pedal and nothing happening, and yet his brakes were there less than 20 seconds before at the previous bend.
So it really can happen very quickly!
So it really can happen very quickly!
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Rich Pon glad you had a good day - i saw your car going round was thinking "which clown has got the roof down going round track" it was going well from where i was standing
Twins car and the puma were good too.
I think from what limited track time i did see - the Reyland Escos was properly going
Twins car and the puma were good too.
I think from what limited track time i did see - the Reyland Escos was properly going
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Never heard such rubbish in all my life. Needs to buy some proper brake fluid. Cant believe your comparing a serious evo to an xr2
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No one is actually saying that it is never the drivers fault, was just giving you an example of when it isnt, that doesnt mean I think it applies for ALL accidents though you total retard
Never heard such rubbish in all my life.
Needs to buy some proper brake fluid. Cant believe your comparing a serious evo to an xr2
I am NOT saying that was the cause of the accident in this case, just saying it MAY be, so you going off on one pretending you know exactly what hapepend when you havent got a fucking clue is just pointless slagging off.
#74
I understand that people have varying abilities off the track as car builders.
I allow for both of these things by never being anywhere near anyone I dont personally know well in any car that I care about on a racetrack.
If im in my trackday clio I'll get close to people and accept that if they make a mistake I lose my car too, if i took my 3door on track which I care about then I would give people plenty of room to make their mistakes away from me, or I just wouldnt put it on track in the first place.
You seem to be mistaking the cars at a trackday that requires NO race license, and NO scrutineering with an organised race where you can justifiably make assumptions about the quality of the other scrutineered cars and other race licensed drivers.
That is YOUR mistake I am afraid mate.
If you dont like the fact that on trackdays there is a poor standard of driving and a poor standard of cars sometimes, then dont do trackdays, these people are learning still so give them a wide birth if that bothers you but dont slag them off for not yet having finished learning!
Last edited by Chip; 05-07-2011 at 03:17 PM.
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Again....he HAD "proper" brake fluid
I actually know the car, driver and was there all weekend with them. Not speculating from the stands or speeling off bollocks.
This little XR2 was pushing 350bhp....very easy to cause a failure and IMO it was a boil problem, not pads.
I have used this magical brake fluid in my Fiesta, and lost the brakes because a hardline had touched my exhaust.
You said earlier that you
"there is a reason why we spent four months on prep", yet didn't load a map and "had issues as usual"....awesome!! I can see i should listen to you, and do you do coaching to "mentally prepare" me.
Facts for the final time...he lost his brake pedal, WITHOUT WARNING.
You see ANY tyre marks in the pics??
Exactly why the pedal dropped is to be traced and IMO it is a boiled fluid issue. Two areas to look at would be the brake reservior that is right next to a red hot screamer pipe and the route of the lines themselves.
There really is little to discuss here....other than, how do you control a car at 100mph on a country lane without brakes
I actually know the car, driver and was there all weekend with them. Not speculating from the stands or speeling off bollocks.
This little XR2 was pushing 350bhp....very easy to cause a failure and IMO it was a boil problem, not pads.
I have used this magical brake fluid in my Fiesta, and lost the brakes because a hardline had touched my exhaust.
You said earlier that you
"there is a reason why we spent four months on prep", yet didn't load a map and "had issues as usual"....awesome!! I can see i should listen to you, and do you do coaching to "mentally prepare" me.
Facts for the final time...he lost his brake pedal, WITHOUT WARNING.
You see ANY tyre marks in the pics??
Exactly why the pedal dropped is to be traced and IMO it is a boiled fluid issue. Two areas to look at would be the brake reservior that is right next to a red hot screamer pipe and the route of the lines themselves.
There really is little to discuss here....other than, how do you control a car at 100mph on a country lane without brakes
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Probably by investing some serious cash into education and driving tuition before deciding to drive a car beyond my talent. Always get usual problems in performance. But come on surely you comprehend that checking safety stuff is a major must do before a track day. Im saying my car wasnt ready for the last few seconds of performance. And loosing out on 1500 rpm isnt going to take my life. And tbh after driving a car on gravel and snow hurts it far more than a track day. I was giving all a widebirth. Its just a test day for me. But id appreciate it if people who struggle with car prep and driving cud take a little more care. I have to!!
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Probably by investing some serious cash into education and driving tuition before deciding to drive a car beyond my talent. Always get usual problems in performance. But come on surely you comprehend that checking safety stuff is a major must do before a track day. Im saying my car wasnt ready for the last few seconds of performance. And loosing out on 1500 rpm isnt going to take my life. And tbh after driving a car on gravel and snow hurts it far more than a track day. I was giving all a widebirth. Its just a test day for me. But id appreciate it if people who struggle with car prep and driving cud take a little more care. I have to!!