gjh

What do you lot think are the best out of the box sleepers? I've just been checking out cars I can't really afford on pistonheads, and I want to hear what you folks reckon a good out of the box sleeper is? My suggestions are-

2wd saph cos
Rover 214 gsi turbo
Rover 620 gsi turbo
Volvo T5

What do you think? (by the way, I'm not looking to buy a car at all, just felt like a discussion on the topic)

zippyobrien

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Civic vtis look tame.
Rover 75 v8

Don't see how a saph cos is a sleeper ?

gordyshreds

saab 9000 2.3 aero + remap = 260+bhp and shed loads of torque

BigErn

E39 M5

Cragrat

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Always been a fan of gmc cyclones,not ott styling but went like feck & loads of tuning potential

Was lhd & American tho

zippyobrien

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Suppose Mayb Granada cossie back in the day, they looked shed like from day 1

botters

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i had a rover 620ti really good car easy as quick if not a little quicker than a standard cossie

RstAaron.

420gsi turbo estate. Like mine albeit mine isn't out of the box as such lol

Adam.

I had a 620 turbo.....LOVED it!!! went like fook

gjh

I'm liking these suggestions, I mentioned the 2wd saph as when they are completely stock, without bonnet vents or a big exhaust I think they look quite stealthy, and people may just mistake them for another 4 door saloon (people who know nothing about cars mind, anyone who knows the anything thing about cars will ususally recognize a cossie), what about bmw m5s? Not the current model. The ealier one (I know fuck all about BMWs).

EDIT: I see someone has already mentioned the BMW.

MO' BENT RIMS

NISSAN CHERRY TURBO!toyota corolla twincam.

Mint FRST

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Phase 1 Mazda 3 MPS?

MO' BENT RIMS

standard s2

Grantcos

A pulsar, just a nissan sunny on 14's with a scoop and spoiler alot of people still dont realise what an animal they are.

Red16

The B5 Audi S4, 2.7 V6 twin turbo, doesn't look much different to the normal A4 but has 265bhp, 4wd and lots of tuning potential.

RS Grant

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Volvo T5 (850, S/V/C70)
E36 M3 4dr Saloon
Saab 9000 Aero
Octavia 1.8t 4x4
Seat Leon Cupra
Citroen Xsara VTS
Forester XT
Lambchop's favorite, the Maestro and Montego Turbos.
Rover 620ti
Rover 216GTi Twin Cam


Cheers,
Grant

Chaz888

uno turbo ?

Shings

ITS A BINGO

306Gti6 without the badge...

EXACTLY THE SAME CAR/HANDLING

Chopshop85

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That would be my choice too.

lol, Bodykit, spoiler, bonnet vents... not really a sleeper, and not exactly quick in std form.

bj928

CL65 merc, smart looking coupe, doesn't look much different from the CL500, but kicks out 612hp and was down tunned to that, v12 twin turbo

also as said before GMC syclone/typhon pickups, back in the early 90's a syclone would hit 60 in 4 seconds, v6 turbo 4wd auto,

buick GNX ( black car vin diesel drove at start of fast4) believe same engine as syclone but rear drive car

B19 JUB

volvo s60r or the v70r.265bhp 4wd animals

Jasesapphy

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Rover 620 are poor

I would go T5 volvo of some discription

Saab's can be ok

Mine was pretty standard with a tweek on the boost, flash on ECU and was running 250bhp,

martynhomer01

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volvo 850 t5-r

massivewangers

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Apart from the big wheels, four exhausts and M badges

Would be an 850 T5 for me. They looked really standard in most cases, often didn't have spoilers and things.

Lambchop

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You beat me to it

I have this sick fascination with these cars

BigErn

To the everyday man and woman on the street its just another big BMW. Theres nothing that jumps out and smacks you in the face and says "Im an M5" like big spoilers or vents everywhere.

gjh

I'm liking these suggestions, can't beat a nice sleeper, i remember the old cherry turbos MO, they look rubbish, but were pretty nippy, also, what about the charrade GTTI? That was a pretty quick car for something that looked like a cerial box on wheels. My dad was given one for a weekend when he worked for Daihatsu, said it was a real hoot to drive, and left an xr3i cab for dust. The xsara vts is a good one, look pretty tame but the seem to go well. keep em coming folks.

R4N SS

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its gotta be an volvo t5 estate - mate has one and its pretty quick for big barge like that and will surprice plenty of folk

xr4x4rs

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as already mentions audi s4 2.7 twin turbo v6 4wd and looks like a normal audi a4

XRT_si

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Seriosuly?

gjh

I can see where Mo is comming from, I don't think they are real sleepers now (given that most hot hatches come with 200bhp+) but back in the early 90s I reckon they could of been if they were left standard looking they would of been. I mean I know they have bodykits and bonnet vents, but its not like they are in your face the way an escort cos is is it?

Spiky

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lotus carlton


got to aggree a saff cossie is a sleeper

hardly stands out, not much different to a Azure saph

gjh

Ah the old lotus carlton, definately a sleeper, probably quick enough to still keep up with the modern versions too.

Fil

You just need to pop the s4 badge off the boot and stick a tdi back on

t16coupe

rover 420 gsi turbo
rover 220 coupe turbo

gjh

pugeout 405 T16? Wasn't available in the uk I don't think, only in france



Weren't these 200bhp cars?

RstAaron.

My 420 was great, de-badged and with 4x4 ride height it looked like I'd borrowed my dads car but it would stay with my mates vxr... Should fix it really...

gjh

Yes you should, you should also put some pics up.

Oranoco

WTF! Certainly wouldn't keep up with a standard Cossie (Rover being standard). It's a big old car and only has a baby turbo. Friend of mine had a 2 year old one and he coud only just hold even with my brothers then standard Fiesta RS Turbo

Stu @ M Developments

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M5 for me too... from every angle bar the back they are bland.
Just how it should be.