HGVs on motorway rant . . .
#121
Haven't read it all but one thing I dont get and it seriously bugs me is why EVERY HGV driver feels they have to continuously flash you as if to say "yes,you can come in MY lane".
It's not your fucking lane,I'm doing 20mph more than you so I'll pull into the lane when the fuck I want.
Oh and heaven forbid you don't flash your indicators to acknowledge it,that usually results in 4 miles of main beam flashing.
HOWEVER
Easily the WORST drivers on the road are these new types who drive down the motorway at 55mph behind lorries,presumably to save fuel?
They seem to be doing it in newer cars a lot as well,I spotted a guy in a 535d doing it last night,geek with glasses,then a couple in newish golfs,all diesel.
Do they really value their time that little that by spending an extra 2hrs on the motorway to save about £7 on fuel.
Always seems to be man in passenger seat,woman driving?what the fuck is all that about?
Get a backbone!!!
It's not your fucking lane,I'm doing 20mph more than you so I'll pull into the lane when the fuck I want.
Oh and heaven forbid you don't flash your indicators to acknowledge it,that usually results in 4 miles of main beam flashing.
HOWEVER
Easily the WORST drivers on the road are these new types who drive down the motorway at 55mph behind lorries,presumably to save fuel?
They seem to be doing it in newer cars a lot as well,I spotted a guy in a 535d doing it last night,geek with glasses,then a couple in newish golfs,all diesel.
Do they really value their time that little that by spending an extra 2hrs on the motorway to save about £7 on fuel.
Always seems to be man in passenger seat,woman driving?what the fuck is all that about?
Get a backbone!!!
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.
And what planet do you live on where a journey takes an extra 2 hours from sitting at a comfortable cruising speed ?
I dont imagine there are many journeys most people would undertake in a day in the UK where 2 hour extra on the road would be achieved. Unless they actually stopped.
#122
Sounds like you are a very ignorant driver then. Flashing their lights is simply being helpful and courteous.
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.
Some people really lack any form of manners or common sense these days
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Sounds like you are a very ignorant driver then. Flashing their lights is simply being helpful and courteous.
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.
And what planet do you live on where a journey takes an extra 2 hours from sitting at a comfortable cruising speed ?
I dont imagine there are many journeys most people would undertake in a day in the UK where 2 hour extra on the road would be achieved. Unless they actually stopped.
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.
And what planet do you live on where a journey takes an extra 2 hours from sitting at a comfortable cruising speed ?
I dont imagine there are many journeys most people would undertake in a day in the UK where 2 hour extra on the road would be achieved. Unless they actually stopped.
Ok,perhaps I should have worded it better but what I'm getting at is these drivers that the minute you pass them in the middle lane,start to flash you to pull in,deciding for you when you should change lanes,not thinking that theres another 4 hgv's up ahead about 3/4ths of a mile away that your also attempting to overtake,building up momentum to do this,I'm only in an old transit so I'm only really getting 65 up hills and 70/75 on the flat.
Fuck me there was one guy last night that constantly kept flashing anybody who passed him,which in turn caused said people to panic believing there was something amiss and slamming on,not good on the motorway at 70mph.
As for what difference some fucking idiot going 50/55 down the motorway to save fuel instead of 70/75 just do the maths,I'm coming down from Aberdeen to Swansea,600 miles so yeah 20 mph makes a fair bit of time difference in my eyes,about 3hrs from extremes,I'm not talking about people doing 130mph,just within limits,for some reason it always seems to be newer cars,I just don't get it myself,saw some guy a few months back in a Leon fr driving from Glasgow down to the borders.
Stuck his cruise on 65 and everytime you tried to pass him just crept up to 70-75,gets a bit annoying after 50-60 miles,particularly when your on a hill attempting to pass a HGV and the wankers sitting on your blindspot going just fast enough to stop you pulling out so you also have to brake and lose your momentum.
There really are some pricks on the road.
#124
I've been a truck driver for nearly 30 years and i am allways ready to stand up and support us truck drivers but i am now fed up trying, its getting so a car driver who has been in nothing other than a car can drive a truck better than us truck drivers.
I think those car drivers should have a week in the passenger seat of a truck and see who realy is the shit drivers on our road today they will find the vehicles they drive will only have two axles.
I am thinking about giving it up and go stacking shelves in Tresco's, less responsibility and better money than truck driving.
I think those car drivers should have a week in the passenger seat of a truck and see who realy is the shit drivers on our road today they will find the vehicles they drive will only have two axles.
I am thinking about giving it up and go stacking shelves in Tresco's, less responsibility and better money than truck driving.
#126
Hes telling the guy in the middle lane "that its ok to pull in whenever your ready now mate youve passed the front of my cab so wont clip me with your traiiler ! " He`s also thinking of anyone BEHIND the truck in the middle lane who might have been stuck behind him momentarily , like a coach who can do 60 but isnt allowed in the outer lane ! So flashing as soon as its safe for the truck to do so is fucking plain HGV etiquette .
I found the highlighted text quite Ironic given your views
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#128
it does make you think that even though the speed limit is going to be raised to 80 mph that perhaps the minimum speed should be lifted to 65 for cars and 60 for cars and caravans and the speed limiters on trucks raised to 60 mph
and lane hoggers should have to go for a retest, lane hoggers being an idiot driving in lane 2/3/4 with nothing to overtake........most of them with a glazed expression
and lane hoggers should have to go for a retest, lane hoggers being an idiot driving in lane 2/3/4 with nothing to overtake........most of them with a glazed expression
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it does make you think that even though the speed limit is going to be raised to 80 mph that perhaps the minimum speed should be lifted to 65 for cars and 60 for cars and caravans and the speed limiters on trucks raised to 60 mph
and lane hoggers should have to go for a retest, lane hoggers being an idiot driving in lane 2/3/4 with nothing to overtake........most of them with a glazed expression
and lane hoggers should have to go for a retest, lane hoggers being an idiot driving in lane 2/3/4 with nothing to overtake........most of them with a glazed expression
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Ok, started on page 1, skipped to last, and seems the rant is still the same.
Personally I find HGV drivers some of the best, and most courteous considering their limited ciorcumstances on the roads.
A lot of drivers I know would like the speed limiters to be increased, however you also have the common sense risk of, if you take it too high, how the hell do you then contollably stop a 56 ton artic.!!! How many on here have tried it.!?!?!
As for the ''annoying'' flash when you're overtaking, I don't mind it, it's actually complimentary, and for an awful lot of the wankers on the road, possibly a good idea, to say, there's fuck all in this lane for the next mile and a half get your ass out of the way of the faster car behind you...........but no some ''polite'' car drivers seem to think they pay tax to drive in whichever lane they bloody feel like, no matter who when or what is behind them.
And while we're at it, HGV road tax is massively more expensive than cars, so they ''pay'' to have more rights, and never actually intentionally 'clog' the roads or lanes up.
Personally I find HGV drivers some of the best, and most courteous considering their limited ciorcumstances on the roads.
A lot of drivers I know would like the speed limiters to be increased, however you also have the common sense risk of, if you take it too high, how the hell do you then contollably stop a 56 ton artic.!!! How many on here have tried it.!?!?!
As for the ''annoying'' flash when you're overtaking, I don't mind it, it's actually complimentary, and for an awful lot of the wankers on the road, possibly a good idea, to say, there's fuck all in this lane for the next mile and a half get your ass out of the way of the faster car behind you...........but no some ''polite'' car drivers seem to think they pay tax to drive in whichever lane they bloody feel like, no matter who when or what is behind them.
And while we're at it, HGV road tax is massively more expensive than cars, so they ''pay'' to have more rights, and never actually intentionally 'clog' the roads or lanes up.
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Ok, that was a somewhat cynical quote, I never menat that they do or don't deserve anything more. And yes I know, it's Vehicle Exise Duty, and they pay more because their vehicles are bigger
#136
it does make you think that even though the speed limit is going to be raised to 80 mph that perhaps the minimum speed should be lifted to 65 for cars and 60 for cars and caravans and the speed limiters on trucks raised to 60 mph
and lane hoggers should have to go for a retest, lane hoggers being an idiot driving in lane 2/3/4 with nothing to overtake........most of them with a glazed expression
and lane hoggers should have to go for a retest, lane hoggers being an idiot driving in lane 2/3/4 with nothing to overtake........most of them with a glazed expression
All that needs to happen is people are punished for improper lane discipline, and police need to be trained in common sense.
Or, given the proliferation of ANPR cameras about. Lane hoggers could easily be tracked, and an automatic fine, or better still, machine gun system. If someone is flagged hogging a lane stupidly, they either get fined, or shot dead.
And raising the limit for trucks on motorways would also make sense. Really, WTF is the point in 56mph ? Especially when buses and coaches can go faster, which is far more of a danger.
Problem is, the governments take on "road safety" is nothing to do with road safety, it's all about issuing easy fines.
They really dont give a fuck about true road safety
#137
Sounds like you are a very ignorant driver then. Flashing their lights is simply being helpful and courteous.
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.
And what planet do you live on where a journey takes an extra 2 hours from sitting at a comfortable cruising speed ?
I dont imagine there are many journeys most people would undertake in a day in the UK where 2 hour extra on the road would be achieved. Unless they actually stopped.
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.
And what planet do you live on where a journey takes an extra 2 hours from sitting at a comfortable cruising speed ?
I dont imagine there are many journeys most people would undertake in a day in the UK where 2 hour extra on the road would be achieved. Unless they actually stopped.
and the return journey took 14 minutes longer than the satnav said
#138
Problem is, the governments take on "road safety" is nothing to do with road safety, it's all about issuing easy fines.
They really dont give a fuck about true road safety[/quote]
you have hit the button right on the head .
road safety is not paramount , the speed limit is there for people to use more fuel, a petrol engine is more efficient at and over 2/3 of its rev range.
at the speed limit of 50-56 mph a truck it is not running efficiently as it cannot maintain a high gear and so spends more time running a distance.
the general picture is slow trucks down = increase in taxation income from fuel and hours = employers having to take on more staff= even more tax the "NICE" kick back from this is people in cars do not want to follow a HGV at 40 mph on trunk roads or 50 mph on dual carriage ways or 53-6 mph on motorways they then use more fuel by accelerating past so spending more money on fuel......the unfortunate side of this is that head ons/ loss of control occur more frequently.
the cost of fuel is linked to global warming which is a load of crap! show me a scientist who can put solid facts down and is fully versed in 36 million years of earths history the planet is cyclic thats why they find mamoths and tigers fossils in the uk etc, and they know that the earths magnetic fields have changed at least twice.
we need people with common sense to put things on the right track and cut all the crap.
come to think of it common sense would solve a lot of issues
They really dont give a fuck about true road safety[/quote]
you have hit the button right on the head .
road safety is not paramount , the speed limit is there for people to use more fuel, a petrol engine is more efficient at and over 2/3 of its rev range.
at the speed limit of 50-56 mph a truck it is not running efficiently as it cannot maintain a high gear and so spends more time running a distance.
the general picture is slow trucks down = increase in taxation income from fuel and hours = employers having to take on more staff= even more tax the "NICE" kick back from this is people in cars do not want to follow a HGV at 40 mph on trunk roads or 50 mph on dual carriage ways or 53-6 mph on motorways they then use more fuel by accelerating past so spending more money on fuel......the unfortunate side of this is that head ons/ loss of control occur more frequently.
the cost of fuel is linked to global warming which is a load of crap! show me a scientist who can put solid facts down and is fully versed in 36 million years of earths history the planet is cyclic thats why they find mamoths and tigers fossils in the uk etc, and they know that the earths magnetic fields have changed at least twice.
we need people with common sense to put things on the right track and cut all the crap.
come to think of it common sense would solve a lot of issues
#139
I don't know how to quote on here from my phone but where fast guy says truck drivers normally block the outside lane quite a distance from where cars merge into one lane . Can you not see that your just moving a traffic jam further down the road and making longer tailbacks where your leaving an empty lane in front of you . Surely merging where the lanes go into one lane like the road was designed to happen is better than a fucking idiot deciding that no one is going past him because he knows better.
I bet they weren't taught that in their driving lessons.
I bet they weren't taught that in their driving lessons.
#140
road safety is not paramount , the speed limit is there for people to use more fuel, a petrol engine is more efficient at and over 2/3 of its rev range.
at the speed limit of 50-56 mph a truck it is not running efficiently as it cannot maintain a high gear and so spends more time running a distance.
the general picture is slow trucks down = increase in taxation income from fuel and hours = employers having to take on more staff= even more tax the "NICE" kick back from this is people in cars do not want to follow a HGV at 40 mph on trunk roads or 50 mph on dual carriage ways or 53-6 mph on motorways they then use more fuel by accelerating past so spending more money on fuel......the unfortunate side of this is that head ons/ loss of control occur more frequently.
the cost of fuel is linked to global warming which is a load of crap! show me a scientist who can put solid facts down and is fully versed in 36 million years of earths history the planet is cyclic thats why they find mamoths and tigers fossils in the uk etc, and they know that the earths magnetic fields have changed at least twice.
we need people with common sense to put things on the right track and cut all the crap.
come to think of it common sense would solve a lot of issues [/QUOTE]
Trucks have enough gears that it isnt a problem. And given aerodynamics, 56mph is likely a very economical speed as much over that and trucks will simply become far more inefficient at moving through the air.
But there is no sense allowing a bus or coach to travel faster than an HGV. Both are extremely heavy, except if one crashes it has one occupant, and may also take out a few other vehicles.
If the other crashes...it may have up to 50 occupants. Now seriously....which should be travelling slower ?
And then the ridiculous limits imposed on small commercials with GVW over 2 ton. They are restricted, when 3 ton 4x4's can travel unrestricted ?
It's mental.
Even more mental..is that virtually all of the "strict criteria" the cops use for speed camera locations....nearly all of them have nothing whatsoever to do with speed being the cause of accidents !
And even more amazing, they quoted me as stating the reason they never place speed cameras on rural roads, is because speed is never the cause of those accidents LOFUCKINGL
They really are on drugs.
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Ok, started on page 1, skipped to last, and seems the rant is still the same.
Personally I find HGV drivers some of the best, and most courteous considering their limited ciorcumstances on the roads.
A lot of drivers I know would like the speed limiters to be increased, however you also have the common sense risk of, if you take it too high, how the hell do you then contollably stop a 56 ton artic.!!! How many on here have tried it.!?!?!
As for the ''annoying'' flash when you're overtaking, I don't mind it, it's actually complimentary, and for an awful lot of the wankers on the road, possibly a good idea, to say, there's fuck all in this lane for the next mile and a half get your ass out of the way of the faster car behind you...........but no some ''polite'' car drivers seem to think they pay tax to drive in whichever lane they bloody feel like, no matter who when or what is behind them.
And while we're at it, HGV road tax is massively more expensive than cars, so they ''pay'' to have more rights, and never actually intentionally 'clog' the roads or lanes up.
Personally I find HGV drivers some of the best, and most courteous considering their limited ciorcumstances on the roads.
A lot of drivers I know would like the speed limiters to be increased, however you also have the common sense risk of, if you take it too high, how the hell do you then contollably stop a 56 ton artic.!!! How many on here have tried it.!?!?!
As for the ''annoying'' flash when you're overtaking, I don't mind it, it's actually complimentary, and for an awful lot of the wankers on the road, possibly a good idea, to say, there's fuck all in this lane for the next mile and a half get your ass out of the way of the faster car behind you...........but no some ''polite'' car drivers seem to think they pay tax to drive in whichever lane they bloody feel like, no matter who when or what is behind them.
And while we're at it, HGV road tax is massively more expensive than cars, so they ''pay'' to have more rights, and never actually intentionally 'clog' the roads or lanes up.
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