stevieturbo

Sounds like you are a very ignorant driver then. Flashing their lights is simply being helpful and courteous.
If you choose to be a cock and drive in the wrong lane for a long time for whatever reason....well, you're a cock who causes traffic jams and danger by hogging the wrong lane. It's people like that who increase peoples journey times.

And what planet do you live on where a journey takes an extra 2 hours from sitting at a comfortable cruising speed ?
I dont imagine there are many journeys most people would undertake in a day in the UK where 2 hour extra on the road would be achieved. Unless they actually stopped.

Si B

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Agreed with that, what a tit
Some people really lack any form of manners or common sense these days

vaughant

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Ok,perhaps I should have worded it better but what I'm getting at is these drivers that the minute you pass them in the middle lane,start to flash you to pull in,deciding for you when you should change lanes,not thinking that theres another 4 hgv's up ahead about 3/4ths of a mile away that your also attempting to overtake,building up momentum to do this,I'm only in an old transit so I'm only really getting 65 up hills and 70/75 on the flat.

Fuck me there was one guy last night that constantly kept flashing anybody who passed him,which in turn caused said people to panic believing there was something amiss and slamming on,not good on the motorway at 70mph.

As for what difference some fucking idiot going 50/55 down the motorway to save fuel instead of 70/75 just do the maths,I'm coming down from Aberdeen to Swansea,600 miles so yeah 20 mph makes a fair bit of time difference in my eyes,about 3hrs from extremes,I'm not talking about people doing 130mph,just within limits,for some reason it always seems to be newer cars,I just don't get it myself,saw some guy a few months back in a Leon fr driving from Glasgow down to the borders.
Stuck his cruise on 65 and everytime you tried to pass him just crept up to 70-75,gets a bit annoying after 50-60 miles,particularly when your on a hill attempting to pass a HGV and the wankers sitting on your blindspot going just fast enough to stop you pulling out so you also have to brake and lose your momentum.

There really are some pricks on the road.

david 100

I've been a truck driver for nearly 30 years and i am allways ready to stand up and support us truck drivers but i am now fed up trying, its getting so a car driver who has been in nothing other than a car can drive a truck better than us truck drivers.

I think those car drivers should have a week in the passenger seat of a truck and see who realy is the shit drivers on our road today they will find the vehicles they drive will only have two axles.
I am thinking about giving it up and go stacking shelves in Tresco's, less responsibility and better money than truck driving.

zetec-Sam

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Driving like everyone else on the road is a brain-dead moron seems to be the only way to avoid some muppet hitting you.

Deano

You can clearly tell your not any form of professional driver ! The reason for flashing , is not because the driver on the inside lane wants you to pull immediately in !

Hes telling the guy in the middle lane "that its ok to pull in whenever your ready now mate youve passed the front of my cab so wont clip me with your traiiler ! " He`s also thinking of anyone BEHIND the truck in the middle lane who might have been stuck behind him momentarily , like a coach who can do 60 but isnt allowed in the outer lane ! So flashing as soon as its safe for the truck to do so is fucking plain HGV etiquette .

I found the highlighted text quite Ironic given your views

Korda

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oh yes and if they cut me up and think its funny ill find a hill and catch the twat up

oldfords

it does make you think that even though the speed limit is going to be raised to 80 mph that perhaps the minimum speed should be lifted to 65 for cars and 60 for cars and caravans and the speed limiters on trucks raised to 60 mph
and lane hoggers should have to go for a retest, lane hoggers being an idiot driving in lane 2/3/4 with nothing to overtake........most of them with a glazed expression

PeterRST

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Because they know the brakes might be dodgy...

vaughant

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Fair point,I really don't get this 55mph down the motorway shit,it's fucking ridiculous,if you want to drive slow go on an B road!!!!

vaughant

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You can clearly tell your not any form of professional driver !


Nah,too intelligent for that I'm afraid.

Brian ST-2

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Ok, started on page 1, skipped to last, and seems the rant is still the same.

Personally I find HGV drivers some of the best, and most courteous considering their limited ciorcumstances on the roads.

A lot of drivers I know would like the speed limiters to be increased, however you also have the common sense risk of, if you take it too high, how the hell do you then contollably stop a 56 ton artic.!!! How many on here have tried it.!?!?!
As for the ''annoying'' flash when you're overtaking, I don't mind it, it's actually complimentary, and for an awful lot of the wankers on the road, possibly a good idea, to say, there's fuck all in this lane for the next mile and a half get your ass out of the way of the faster car behind you...........but no some ''polite'' car drivers seem to think they pay tax to drive in whichever lane they bloody feel like, no matter who when or what is behind them.

And while we're at it, HGV road tax is massively more expensive than cars, so they ''pay'' to have more rights, and never actually intentionally 'clog' the roads or lanes up.

zetec-Sam

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There's no such thing as road tax, so no they don't pay to have more rights on the roads!

Brian ST-2

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Ok, that was a somewhat cynical quote, I never menat that they do or don't deserve anything more. And yes I know, it's Vehicle Exise Duty, and they pay more because their vehicles are bigger

xr2imetalhead

elderly drivers concern me allot more than wagon drivers. where i live its 85% elderly people and the majority of them are utterly useless.

stevieturbo

A minimum limit like that is just stupid. You'll see incompetent drivers forced to drive faster than they are capable. An then in bad weather.....again totally stupid.

All that needs to happen is people are punished for improper lane discipline, and police need to be trained in common sense.
Or, given the proliferation of ANPR cameras about. Lane hoggers could easily be tracked, and an automatic fine, or better still, machine gun system. If someone is flagged hogging a lane stupidly, they either get fined, or shot dead.

And raising the limit for trucks on motorways would also make sense. Really, WTF is the point in 56mph ? Especially when buses and coaches can go faster, which is far more of a danger.

Problem is, the governments take on "road safety" is nothing to do with road safety, it's all about issuing easy fines.
They really dont give a fuck about true road safety

dojj

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did a drive one way the other day and, even with a fair bit of traffic on the M1, it still only took me 10 minutes longer than the satnav said it would and i never broke any speed limits

and the return journey took 14 minutes longer than the satnav said

oldfords

Problem is, the governments take on "road safety" is nothing to do with road safety, it's all about issuing easy fines.
They really dont give a fuck about true road safety[/quote]

you have hit the button right on the head .
road safety is not paramount , the speed limit is there for people to use more fuel, a petrol engine is more efficient at and over 2/3 of its rev range.
at the speed limit of 50-56 mph a truck it is not running efficiently as it cannot maintain a high gear and so spends more time running a distance.
the general picture is slow trucks down = increase in taxation income from fuel and hours = employers having to take on more staff= even more tax the "NICE" kick back from this is people in cars do not want to follow a HGV at 40 mph on trunk roads or 50 mph on dual carriage ways or 53-6 mph on motorways they then use more fuel by accelerating past so spending more money on fuel......the unfortunate side of this is that head ons/ loss of control occur more frequently.
the cost of fuel is linked to global warming which is a load of crap! show me a scientist who can put solid facts down and is fully versed in 36 million years of earths history the planet is cyclic thats why they find mamoths and tigers fossils in the uk etc, and they know that the earths magnetic fields have changed at least twice.
we need people with common sense to put things on the right track and cut all the crap.

come to think of it common sense would solve a lot of issues

gibbo frst

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I don't know how to quote on here from my phone but where fast guy says truck drivers normally block the outside lane quite a distance from where cars merge into one lane . Can you not see that your just moving a traffic jam further down the road and making longer tailbacks where your leaving an empty lane in front of you . Surely merging where the lanes go into one lane like the road was designed to happen is better than a fucking idiot deciding that no one is going past him because he knows better.
I bet they weren't taught that in their driving lessons.

stevieturbo

you have hit the button right on the head .
road safety is not paramount , the speed limit is there for people to use more fuel, a petrol engine is more efficient at and over 2/3 of its rev range.
at the speed limit of 50-56 mph a truck it is not running efficiently as it cannot maintain a high gear and so spends more time running a distance.
the general picture is slow trucks down = increase in taxation income from fuel and hours = employers having to take on more staff= even more tax the "NICE" kick back from this is people in cars do not want to follow a HGV at 40 mph on trunk roads or 50 mph on dual carriage ways or 53-6 mph on motorways they then use more fuel by accelerating past so spending more money on fuel......the unfortunate side of this is that head ons/ loss of control occur more frequently.
the cost of fuel is linked to global warming which is a load of crap! show me a scientist who can put solid facts down and is fully versed in 36 million years of earths history the planet is cyclic thats why they find mamoths and tigers fossils in the uk etc, and they know that the earths magnetic fields have changed at least twice.
we need people with common sense to put things on the right track and cut all the crap.

come to think of it common sense would solve a lot of issues [/QUOTE]

Trucks have enough gears that it isnt a problem. And given aerodynamics, 56mph is likely a very economical speed as much over that and trucks will simply become far more inefficient at moving through the air.

But there is no sense allowing a bus or coach to travel faster than an HGV. Both are extremely heavy, except if one crashes it has one occupant, and may also take out a few other vehicles.
If the other crashes...it may have up to 50 occupants. Now seriously....which should be travelling slower ?

And then the ridiculous limits imposed on small commercials with GVW over 2 ton. They are restricted, when 3 ton 4x4's can travel unrestricted ?
It's mental.

Even more mental..is that virtually all of the "strict criteria" the cops use for speed camera locations....nearly all of them have nothing whatsoever to do with speed being the cause of accidents !
And even more amazing, they quoted me as stating the reason they never place speed cameras on rural roads, is because speed is never the cause of those accidents LOFUCKINGL

They really are on drugs.

bj928

my truck does 69, and i get over taken by trucks going faster all day, sometimes trucks with 3 trailers, done well over 100k miles now in america at speeds way above the euro56 crap and only seen a couple of accidents, nothing major, in texas i can do 70 on normal A type roads, where in the uk i would be restricted to 40, even over take slower cars and trucks on the A type roads just as if i were in a car, over here a truck (18 wheeler) is driven and used like a car, so basicly the 56 mph doesn't prove anything, but somebody in an offfice has to earn their wages so screws everyone by sticking the limiter on whatever he feels.

~nomad~

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Is that why you have to travel from Wales to Scotland to find someone who will employ you?

vaughant

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Good return!!!!

Someone that will employ for what I'm worth mate,south wales is dead for well paid work and with all my qualifications and experience I'm fucked if I'm working for £24000 a year,which was the best I was looking at around Swansea.