R4N SS

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A mate has just text me an ebay item number which is for an auction of a XS Power Turbo cheap - are these turbos any good?

I was trying to explain to my mate that its a lottery buying turbos on ebay but one of his mates has just bought it.

Its got me thinking now too.

scoooby slayer

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to4e at 20 psi will be fine

R4N SS

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i wanna aim for 32-33psi peak and 28-30psi held - will it cope?

My friends friend is hoping for 29psi.

So are these any good or are they likely to fall apart at the first sign of decent boost?

scoooby slayer

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it wont last long at 30 psi and tbh how can it there only Ł150 !

keep it below 1.5 bar or 23 psi and it should be fine, all the ones ive dealt with have been but at 30 psi they dont last long.
i did 5k miles on one on a yb at 22 psi and when i sold it was still excellent condition.

R4N SS

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So what sort of power can you expect with o e fuming 23psi?

Engine is 200 block, slightly lower comp, slightly porter head, etc was the engine from Mr Worth on here & was in Spadges old black 3dr and was running 440bhp on a t38 apparently.

scoooby slayer

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pretty much identical to a t34 on .63 exhaust housing so around 330 bhp at 23 psi, stage 3 basically. it will do 2 bar but youd be silly to do it, they are cheap because the components arent as good so cannot be used like a garrett, still good though on a road car.

scoooby slayer

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i wouldnt put one on the supra though.

i had a Ł2k saph years ago so didnt care and tryed one and it was awesome, so i bought a small truck load and shipped them in

R4N SS

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My T34.63 was making just over 400bhp/torque at 2.2bar and it was great but the turbo only lasted 12-18 months.

I'm gonna get bored at 330 as it's for the track car. But at the price they are it's less than half the price of a rebuild on a t34

The website states 25-35 psi surely that can't be right then can it?

scoooby slayer

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it will run 2 bar plus but it wont last, i had a dyno graph of one at 2.1 bar making 397 bhp but after 2k miles it still worked but there was huge shaft play like 2.5mm in and out ! lol

ignore what site says mate ive dealt with alot of these turbos into triple figures. if 330 hp isnt enough then dont buy one.

R4N SS

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Excellent advice mate. I will have a think then as the engine may end up in the saff im buying which will be used as a road car so 330 will be plenty for that.

Cheers for the info. Will pointy mate at this thread.

R4N SS

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ac tually just had a thought - i went through about 4 T34 turbos at 400bhp every 12-18 months costing anywhere from Ł250-Ł500 for a rebuild each time - whereas with these I can ring its neck at 2bar and then throw it away for a new one - will work out cheaper than rebuilding

RS Grant

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Guy up here had an XS Power Turbo on his Supra.. IIRC it split and shat oil everywhere, causing a big engine bay fire.


Cheers,
Grant

Fudgey

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i used a t04e xs power jobby on the 3dr at 28psi.

granted i only done 200 miles with the car but it went like a coooont lol

also there is a bit of play in and out, but if you buy one get a decent set of bearings fitted and you would have a good cheap turbo!

ps ran, mine is for sale for Ł100 to try it if you want. i also still have the external wastegate.

R4N SS

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Dan that sounds good but how much are the decent bearings and who put do it for me?

I wanted to keep it internally gated due to noise regs, but you could always feed the pipe back into the zorst i suppose

R4N SS

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Still got a couple of questions i need answering...

who can uprate the bearings in these?
how much is it?
anyone done it and how long has it lasted and at what boost?

cheers

Ran

Chip

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Ran, replacing the bearings is essentially a rebuild, and will require re-balancing, ie a few hundred quid, so you are then going to be paying reastlically twice the price of the turbo to try and improve it slightly.

Either by them and treat them as disposable, or use a proper T34 IMHO

R4N SS

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Chip, I was rebuilding T34's every 12-18 months and dint want to be going through that again

Disposable would be better it when it fails I do t want it to take the engine with it lol

I hear you have ordered a few turbos from the states so may needtobemd your ear at the Middlesex meet

Chip

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I dont ever get turbos from the states, all the ones I have sourced for people you might know have been uk supplied.

And I dont EVER get anything other than genuine garrett. So wouldnt be able to help you with this sort of turbo.

You seem to be missing the point that if you were rebuilding a well made genuine garrett every 12-18 months at 2.2 bar, you would probably be destroying one of these cheap crap ones every few weeks at the same boost.

R4N SS

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Think i will give it a miss then and just save for a proper turbo - i ideally want a T4 but cant seem to find them when i have the money for it. Then i spend money on something else and a flippin T4 turns up

Want one of those Haart inlets too

Chip

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ST escort inlet probably the most suitable for what you are doing.

R4N SS

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hhhm never thought about the ST escos inlet - im guessing they are almost as much as the Haart plenums?

xr4x4rs

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if your rebuilding a t34 so often then surely you need a bigger turbo to handle the same amount of pressure but easily

why not look into a gt30 internal gated?

R4N SS

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because a GT30 is mega money but its certainly on the wish list.

the T34 was on my last engine (Harvey Gibbs 400/400) in the moonstone 3dr - the new engine is a similar spec though so i will defo need a bigger turbo

cossie4i+

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TT T38

Steve

R4N SS

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Rather have a proper turbo Steve

Chip

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what he was saying: "I want a decent turbo"
Not: "I want an ugly paperweight"

Think you must have misunderstood it?

cossie4i+

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Nobody loves my turbo

Sod following the crowd, 4is and TT T38s rule

Steve

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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Only Ł150 ?... cheap enough for my next project of converting a turbo to a mini jet engine...

Chip

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To use in what?

xr4x4rs

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a wheelchair

scoooby slayer

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be honest though mate all those t34 repair bills and initial cost would of paid for a gt30 that could of been run at less boost for same power and still be going today

Staffi

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Ran, you're the only guy i know that was getting through T34s yearly....

Mine ran @ 2.2bar for over 3yrs mate...

Keep off holding them at the top end...

FletchCossie

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Speak to CossieDavid on www.EscortRSCosworth.com he is selling a Small Turbo Esc Cos inlet

Tell him I sent ya

scoooby slayer

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he was probably actually using his car though lol

xr4x4rs

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lol

but i can account for staffi using his turbo along with a certain dolomite one night

R4N SS

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Pmsl @ using the car

It got fuckin abused at every opportunity. Gutted now we have loads if cameras near me as it used to be fun smoking the roundabout

I'm sure the engine is still going strong from when Harvey built it, it's just everything else that falls apart around it.

True, the amount I have spent on turbo rebuilds is ridiculous. But I have no disposable income for the next month as deciding what daily runner to get first - my old saff ghia which is a Cossie rep now or an e39 530d?

RS Grant

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Tough choice..


Cheers,
Grant

Staffi

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Mine gets used more than most on here to be fair, you'd be suprised...




Rich, that was fooking brilliant mate, i dardn't look at the Speedo.. i just remember seeing flames the size of flats from Daz's Exhaust..

xr4x4rs

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i remember seeing a white and red blob go past on the other side, could you pair from miles away

Mark V8

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How about a Holset ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Holset-HX35-Tu...item3367bfcb59

They are meant to be tough at high boosts.

Mark