james kiely

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not bad for a train driver lol ,i wonder what a real driver would get out of it steve































































i will take one of these

cossie4i+

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I was gutted not getting it into the 4s for the 0-60 lol

Steve

andy130

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what about karl at NMS 3dr?

Staffi

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Hi Doug.............

Man i thought i was indecisive, you're the record holder...

mechanic28

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bloody cheek tell me is it true?

Rod-Tarry

All the facts :--------------------

The only 3doors to be proven past 180mph are as follows

1. B. Read RS500 191.6mph
2. K. Sharp 3dr 183.0mph
3. A. Wornell RS500 182.9mph
4. B. Read 3dr 182.6mph
5. L. Manning 3dr 4x4 181.1mph
6. L. Cattermole 3dr 180.4mph

Bruce appears twice in different cars. Lee is fastest 3dr dragging 4X4 transmission.

Near optimum runs are-
M. Hadland 194.6mph with 626bhp
M. Shead 183.0mph with 485bhp
D. Moss 178.5mph with 430bhp
The three runs above are the best runs down Brunters most runs including the 200mph efforts were not close to optimum & could be improved.

Fastest of breed
Sapphire 206.1mph - 800bhp
Escort 200.2mph - 700bhp
RS500 191.6mph - 600bhp
3dr 183.0mph - 510bhp

Cheers Rod

Gav Diamond

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Was hoping to join the 3dr list however times are hard and chasing numbers is now out of my price range but fair play to those who have achieved what they have

Never been proven, was jokes of 220mph down the M42 years ago mind
I was in Steve Scotts Focus when Steve tried to get Karl to race at Brunters but Karl just kept a steady speed then pulled over

Eagle

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cheers rod i started looking last night and kinda gave up

R5FORD

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Iv got kevs old shell

AJC

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Was going to say about Lee catermole. I don't know what top speed he did but I remember watching him do an 11.1 quarter mile

graham c

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yep lee,s up their and think he,s 0-60 still stands good in his saff to think he should put his car back together and try again as he has 550-600 ?

Staffi

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Lee has done some cracking 0-60 0-100 times in his cossies to be fair AND some with not massive power too iirc..





Good post that Rod, intersting to see the car's that've done 180+

Karl 3dr

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And I've got the engine, wouldn't mind having a bash just to see what it'll do next year when I've got a suitable box and diff lol.

graham c

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think his saff woz 380-400 horse? plus gas of course

Rod-Tarry

Someone mentione ELE he ran 178.6 at Brunters against the mighty Rainbirds 180.9 & Bruces 182.6mph all on the same day it was watching that battle that started me on the slippery slope.
When i first joined the Cosworth ranks the Turbosystems car was Topdog amongst the rwd cars running past 179mph. It was Mike that broke the 180 barrier an incredible feat back then. Bruce was first rwd past 190 & then some twat started to take it seriously .

1/4mile & 0-60 was the territory of 'twinkle toes cattermole' .

R5FORD

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go for it mate

graham c

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twinkle toe,s just tx,d him that one! he is good at launching tho. hes into his 1/4 mile tho

Rod-Tarry

He knows ive always called him that i was their when he did that stupid sub 4 0-60 a time mine could not beat even with 800bhp.

james kiely

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i have this shell now ,a boreham built ex group a shell,if anyone has info on it let me know please

graham c

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rod thats wot he just said

Liams

so if you were to put your engine and running gear in a 3 door/rs500 rod what top speed would that achieve??

james kiely

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i couldnt see it getting to 200mph

rsmark86

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i admire the guys going for top speed runs but i would shit myself at 180mph in a sierra lol....

but out of intrest what would mine do...
fully worked engine ( standard compression tho) forged pistons
long studded/ wrc gasket
fully worked head
custom cams to suit spec
gt35 external waste gate
autronic sm4
83lbs siemens
r&b motorsport swedish
spec r breather set up

makes full boost by 3.5k aswel

mapped by mark hopefully next month

standard gear box rebuilt ()
quaife diff
17X8 wheels with 215/40 tyres

in a 3dr.... and hoping for 520bhp+ with good torque

andy130

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to much money james, see your sapphire on DD, is that your S1 on there aswel?

Gav Diamond

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Tyre size would hold you back masively
If I have done the ratios correct 7000rpm would be 170mph and 7500rpm would be 182mph if you can pull that revs

mechanic28

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my 3 door tops out at 175 mph in 5th gear at 8k on 215/40 17

james kiely

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andy i got this shell last october[i sold off my music studio] ,to be delivered this week hopefully ,depending on how busy dave the chap i got it off is as he is bringing it up to me on his beavertail
and yep thats my saff and s1[picking up on friday ]thats the reason the 4b is for sale mate

Gav Diamond

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With a 3.9 ratio diff at 8000rpm you will do 181mph but if you are relying on you standard speedo and tacho then you will be miles off.

A mate of mine had his saff timed at brunters, the speedo needle was pointing straight down so well off the clock and the timing gear came back at 168.8mph so do not rely on them

mechanic28

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forgot to add mine not a standard gear box or ratios

james kiely

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is your 5th gear longer doug?

mechanic28

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shorter 1st,2nd and i think 3rd are longer gears,i am not sure of the exact ratios tho

gjh

Nice to hear about these 3 doors again, where is Cattermole's 3 door these days? he could out launch 4wd's with that, so who has the best 1/4 mile time? 2wd and 4wd, Cattermole and kev sharp? I'd love to see Martins escort go on the 1/4 mile, low 10/high 9?

J1mbo

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I think my old mans got the 0-60 for an escort cos iirc 2.6sec and 100in 5.5 iirc

This year hoping to see much better under 2.5 and under 5 would be nice!

morcheen

not sure if the toiletsystems saph got a mention yet.sure it done just under the 180.the fiesta was nippy too

gjh

Jesus christ! That will easily be a 9 second pass then, he should enter ten of the best just to remind the japanese cars that there's life in the old cossies just yet.

Marvin_hagler_

don't remember them names back in 1989 which was i suppose back in the day unless you think 2003 was back in the day dude


i think frank cirino was the man but i'm talking about 1990 when they were proper nearly new man

PAUL S

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Cosworths were doing 200 mph and going around corners just as well, over 20 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G4vP...embedded#at=87

http://www.ibcholdings.com.au/cars/sierra/index.html

ajamesc

we do need some good ybs up there with the japs flying the ford flag lol

Rob Virgo

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James,

Bruces 3rd was the car to have back in the day lad, pf wasn't about then, remember bein on rsoc with the ols school crew when it was NICKED off a trailer outside a pub Afaik while the lads were inside noshin...had to have been sent abroad in whole or parts as their were some very one off bits on it, tryin to remember what the fancy front setup was, sinle nut hubs maybe, anyone remember

So you sold the collection for the tc, is it complete, a buddy of mine can do a proper engine to rival any modern spec,old 500 spec been left behind a bit now....

J1mbo

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Struggled with grip (was just about putting it down in third) last time at pod he ran a 10.4 and another run was passing at 142mph on mild boost setting (around 1.6/7bar)

We have some tyres from a friend who said they're awesome so will try them, on race fuel and full boost should be on for 150 passes and anything that starts wi a 9 would be nice!