What turbo for my spec
19-04-2011, 11:20 AM
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What turbo for my spec
Looking for some advice for the best turbo for upto 420 bhp giving the best responce with my spec.
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19-04-2011, 11:22 AM
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Should of said I want to stay internal gated and ideally keep the 4wd manifold.
19-04-2011, 11:25 AM
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19-04-2011, 01:07 PM
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As Aaron says, or the 3071 will do the job...
T34.63 would be on it's knees at that power (if it'd make that is) but wouldn't be for long..
19-04-2011, 01:31 PM
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good for 420+ 2871.. ball bearing always use for low lag .also 3071 ..also at t35 you can put morram shaft and go for 2.5 boost .cost is big..what ecu you have ?
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19-04-2011, 01:37 PM
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Why do you want to keep the 4wd manifold?
19-04-2011, 01:40 PM
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Chip, just a quickie and sorry to hi-jack your thread Neil..
What max -ISH power can be made by the 2wd Manifold??
19-04-2011, 01:43 PM
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For around the 400bhp mark i'd go GT2871R or for the 450bhp mark i'd go GTX3071R - that will give similar repsonse but have headroom in it later on to go for nearer 500bhp with an injector change.
19-04-2011, 01:51 PM
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Wots wrong with a good old gt30
19-04-2011, 03:07 PM
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Chip, just a quickie and sorry to hi-jack your thread Neil..
What max -ISH power can be made by the 2wd Manifold??
Never personally tested it, but I know of a couple of cars that made it to around 600bhp on it.
Not sure I would want to go quite that far myself though.
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Why do you want to keep the 4wd manifold?
Main reason chip is ease of fitment as far as heatshields and exhausts. Im not chasing power really and would be happy with 420 which shouldn't be at the limit of the 4wd manifold. The main reason I'm thinking of a new turbo is the car will need a remap when the cam gets changed so might aswell do all the changes at once.
19-04-2011, 03:33 PM
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You would also benefit from bigger injectors, safety margin.
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why is the 4wd manifold not as good for performance? My engine runs it at 450hp
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Never personally tested it, but I know of a couple of cars that made it to around 600bhp on it.
Really Chip?? i always thought they were pretty dead after 400bhp...
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why is the 4wd manifold not as good for performance? My engine runs it at 450hp
Aaron, i think it is good for performance mate, as i've just said when quoting Chip, i always thought 400 ish was the limit of the 2wd one hence why i asked the question....
19-04-2011, 03:42 PM
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why is the 4wd manifold not as good for performance? My engine runs it at 450hp
It doesnt flow as well.
19-04-2011, 03:44 PM
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Are you talking about inlet or exhaust manifold postie ?, because Chip has answered for exhaust.
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Really Chip?? i always thought they were pretty dead after 400bhp...
Aaron, i think it is good for performance mate, as i've just said when quoting Chip, i always thought 400 ish was the limit of the 2wd one hence why i asked the question....
God no mate, the rwd one is capable of pretty massive power really.
Porkie was on one at 600bhp for example.
Ade was just over that although had problems with the middle two cylinders caused by the lump on entry to the manifold we believe which hinders flow on those cylinders.
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Are you talking about inlet or exhaust manifold postie ?, because Chip has answered for exhaust.
Yes mate, I meant the exhaust, apologies if that wasnt what was being asked
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Are you talking about inlet or exhaust manifold postie ?, because Chip has answered for exhaust.
Arr, good spot Steve, wires crossed Chipa, yes i was referring to INLET fellas...
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in the 2 wd exaust manifold can you put external wastegate 46mm to go for 600 hp ?
19-04-2011, 05:11 PM
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in the 2 wd exaust manifold can you put external wastegate 46mm to go for 600 hp ?
Yes you can, martin at reyland has done a few.
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Arr, good spot Steve, wires crossed Chipa, yes i was referring to INLET fellas...
Yeah 400ish seems to be about it.
Small turbo escos is the best of the bunch (barring the mega rare 500 ones)
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With good mapping would a smaller GT30 be as responsive as a T34?
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With good mapping would a smaller GT30 be as responsive as a T34?
Yes it will match it upto 4000rpm and give you another 100hp above!!
20-04-2011, 12:32 PM
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Well that gives me something to think about over the next few weeks, its just a shame there isnt many different spec cars up here in Scotland to get a run in before deciding. Will try and get a run in Kevs RBT38 car as that would be the easyest bolt on and go option.
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Well that gives me something to think about over the next few weeks, its just a shame there isnt many different spec cars up here in Scotland to get a run in before deciding. Will try and get a run in Kevs RBT38 car as that would be the easyest bolt on and go option.
No sweat Neil,needs mapped first though.
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Well you have 3 weeks Kev chop chop
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Well you have 3 weeks Kev chop chop
Well the road tax in May is a start lol.
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think u should worring about your gearbox at 420 its gonna shit it self
22-04-2011, 02:02 PM
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for me it would be cossierich spec, i think thats his name with the gt30 on stock port head awesome road engine imo.
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think u should worring about your gearbox at 420 its gonna shit it self
Neil has a big tooth box mate.
22-04-2011, 02:43 PM
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GT30 would kill a T38 with the right inlet and cam
22-04-2011, 03:03 PM
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GT30 would kill a T38 with the right inlet and cam
Im happy with my spec
, 480bhp and 485lb/ft @2.1bar
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Im happy with my spec
, 480bhp and 485lb/ft @2.1bar
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Not saying you're not. But getting back to the original topic, if you had the chance to choose a turbo again, same prices etc etc - T38 or GT30 then?
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Not saying you're not. But getting back to the original topic, if you had the chance to choose a turbo again, same prices etc etc - T38 or GT30 then?
Why change when my spec does the job ?
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Why change when my spec does the job ?
hows the t38 for surge ? can you run 2.1 bar straight up with no surgeing low down ?
my old t4 used to surge its tits off on standard port head with bd14s, had to be caped to this
19-04-2011, 11:20 AM
What turbo for my spec
