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19-02-2011, 08:40 PM
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I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
fook me people love a good winge dont they!!!
some customers need to remember that this is tuning, not standard servicing.
it isn't black and white working on one can to the next, especially with cars such as rs turbos that may well have old wiring, different engines, this and that. things from time to time will go wrong while being worked on. No written standard operated procedure is in place for such modified cars. And when it does go wrong the customer needs the balls to say they arent happy, not by a tx msg lol but by a phone call or popping in.
Just wasted a whole pack of marylands reading all this.
Good luck to all involved but although I dont know them personally, best of luck to
Enhanced Performance with the business, learn from the mistakes and come back better.
some customers need to remember that this is tuning, not standard servicing.
it isn't black and white working on one can to the next, especially with cars such as rs turbos that may well have old wiring, different engines, this and that. things from time to time will go wrong while being worked on. No written standard operated procedure is in place for such modified cars. And when it does go wrong the customer needs the balls to say they arent happy, not by a tx msg lol but by a phone call or popping in.
Just wasted a whole pack of marylands reading all this.
Good luck to all involved but although I dont know them personally, best of luck to
Enhanced Performance with the business, learn from the mistakes and come back better.
19-02-2011, 08:43 PM
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things go tits up on all tuned cars we know that but silicone injectors in, welding turbos to manifolds and that fucking inlet says it all really, why do it all wrong and ask for trouble, cant get my head round it at all???????
19-02-2011, 08:51 PM
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mate what is your problem with rst owners???, this is the third comment ive seen of you calling us all chavs, every rst owner i know are in our late thirties early forties so not exactly chavs and have been into them for twenty years and have no interest in cosworths etc
, some rst owners just have them in our blood and know what they need and spend accordingly, some people dont use the spanners so take them to a tuner and expect a decent job!!, if they cant build a cvh then they are fucking useless imo
, some rst owners just have them in our blood and know what they need and spend accordingly, some people dont use the spanners so take them to a tuner and expect a decent job!!, if they cant build a cvh then they are fucking useless imo
If they arent a bunch of timewasting tards on the whole why do some of the big tuners refuse to deal with them unless a known quantity ie ( nms, SCC ), ask yourself that.
Its getting less bad these days as the cars are becoming more expensive to maintain/rare/classics as opped to cheap chav runarounds, but unfortunately the die is cast
MSD get round problems like this by agreeing work to be done on a signed document so theres no arguments, but many places will just turn away jobs like those posted on this thread by this type of customer
19-02-2011, 09:04 PM
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19-02-2011, 09:14 PM
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19-02-2011, 09:17 PM
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Sure you dont want to go back and re-edit your school boy insults again?
19-02-2011, 09:20 PM
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I'm on about the ones on this thread, and they're coming across badly. Practicaly illiterate and getting their mum involved
If they arent a bunch of timewasting tards on the whole why do some of the big tuners refuse to deal with them unless a known quantity ie ( nms, SCC ), ask yourself that.
Its getting less bad these days as the cars are becoming more expensive to maintain/rare/classics as opped to cheap chav runarounds, but unfortunately the die is cast
MSD get round problems like this by agreeing work to be done on a signed document so theres no arguments, but many places will just turn away jobs like those posted on this thread by this type of customer
If they arent a bunch of timewasting tards on the whole why do some of the big tuners refuse to deal with them unless a known quantity ie ( nms, SCC ), ask yourself that.
Its getting less bad these days as the cars are becoming more expensive to maintain/rare/classics as opped to cheap chav runarounds, but unfortunately the die is cast
MSD get round problems like this by agreeing work to be done on a signed document so theres no arguments, but many places will just turn away jobs like those posted on this thread by this type of customer
d4 did come across as a tard but john and morph always seemed ok to me and you have got to admit silicone round injectors, welding turbos to manifolds etc is not what anyone deserves and does not look good, yea rsts go pop but they had no chance if they were bodged to start with, just my opinion and is why over theyears have learnt to fix them myself with a few mates and only rely on set ups off tuners( while watching them like a hawk!)
19-02-2011, 09:23 PM
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You best get down to specsavers
In the post above yours I clarified it was only the owners in this thread
Oh and it wasnt me who started on the personal insults
Really, you should learn to read or you'll be classed in the same boat
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19-02-2011, 09:27 PM
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this thread wont last much longer
who's the one calmly arguing their point and whos the one shouting (or who doesnt know caps lock exists) and clearly loosing the rag???
john or whatever, if you could string a sensible sentence together and actually construct a coherent point of view then you might get answers.
Luke has calmly responded to you, yet youve been seemingly incapable of responding the same.
If as you say you are right then youll have photos to back all this up and clear evidence, so why get angry online when it achieves NOTHING WHATSOEVER.
In my experience the people in an arguement who are incapable of constructing a coherent response or just respond with anger/ranting/violence are usually loosing the arguement because they are wrong/full of shit. Your falling neatly into that category.
Im sure you dont "give a fuck" what everyone else thinks though and us "cunts" shouldnt pick on your language or what you write. sadly your on an internet forum where written text is the medium of communication and if you cant master that then no wonder there has been confusion all along.
Answer me this: why would any sane mapper "garuntee" an engine they havent built?? provide an inspection - yes, advise on general condition - yes but warranty something they didnt do? dont fucking think so.
And even if they did a warranty they would do something in writing to prevent commercial suicide.....
now i know luke aint the best at running a business hence coming under AFR these days but he doesnt strike me as a complete fucking cluster fuck either!
As for the rest you havent posted much actual facts, merely speculation.
who's the one calmly arguing their point and whos the one shouting (or who doesnt know caps lock exists) and clearly loosing the rag???
john or whatever, if you could string a sensible sentence together and actually construct a coherent point of view then you might get answers.
Luke has calmly responded to you, yet youve been seemingly incapable of responding the same.
If as you say you are right then youll have photos to back all this up and clear evidence, so why get angry online when it achieves NOTHING WHATSOEVER.
In my experience the people in an arguement who are incapable of constructing a coherent response or just respond with anger/ranting/violence are usually loosing the arguement because they are wrong/full of shit. Your falling neatly into that category.
Im sure you dont "give a fuck" what everyone else thinks though and us "cunts" shouldnt pick on your language or what you write.
sadly your on an internet forum where written text is the medium of communication and if you cant master that then no wonder there has been confusion all along.Answer me this: why would any sane mapper "garuntee" an engine they havent built?? provide an inspection - yes, advise on general condition - yes but warranty something they didnt do? dont fucking think so.
And even if they did a warranty they would do something in writing to prevent commercial suicide.....
now i know luke aint the best at running a business hence coming under AFR these days but he doesnt strike me as a complete fucking cluster fuck either!
As for the rest you havent posted much actual facts, merely speculation.
19-02-2011, 09:28 PM
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19-02-2011, 09:32 PM
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Iv not said a word mate..
Luke mentioned about one of jamsports customers coming to us that was all..
Tbh i think lukes point was not to slate jamsport but to point out all tuners do make mistakes and this particular one was jamsport..
Im not going to say anymore on that matter or any other that iv heard over times as tbh when your in this business all you ever hear is people slating other tuners because either theyve felt hard done by when thier car goes wrong or because theyve spent their hard earned they think their old nail has a life time warranty..
Every tuner has happy customers and unhappy ones thats a fact but its not always the tuners fault when things go wrong..
Im sure all this is going to be damaging to ep and that upsets me because iv done ALOT to get things really good there..
I will try and carry on and get more cars/engines out there to prove that apart from a few isolated incidents that me/eps engines and mapping is very good..
I know we have alot of happy customers and i know we still can have more so i hope the potential of some will still come to me/ep
cheers danny
Luke mentioned about one of jamsports customers coming to us that was all..
Tbh i think lukes point was not to slate jamsport but to point out all tuners do make mistakes and this particular one was jamsport..
Im not going to say anymore on that matter or any other that iv heard over times as tbh when your in this business all you ever hear is people slating other tuners because either theyve felt hard done by when thier car goes wrong or because theyve spent their hard earned they think their old nail has a life time warranty..
Every tuner has happy customers and unhappy ones thats a fact but its not always the tuners fault when things go wrong..
Im sure all this is going to be damaging to ep and that upsets me because iv done ALOT to get things really good there..
I will try and carry on and get more cars/engines out there to prove that apart from a few isolated incidents that me/eps engines and mapping is very good..
I know we have alot of happy customers and i know we still can have more so i hope the potential of some will still come to me/ep
cheers danny
Well I have no problem with you danny and when i met you to grab that heat shield I thought you was a top bloke.
I hope to see you on track/at the shows throughout the year...
19-02-2011, 09:32 PM
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Jesus!!! That took forever to read. How difficult is it to build a cvh engine that lasts more than a thousand miles. I got ripped off by a similar company when I was a bit younger and a bit more naive. Needless to say my dad got my money back and 6 months later the company folded. I can't stand dickheads who call themselves specialists because they've done a few headgaskets on rs turbos. Well thankfully to the power of the Internet I would make an educated guess that maybe ep/aft/abc or what ever the he'll they are called this week, won't be getting a great deal of work in the future. Serves you right you unprofessional, irresponsible arseholes.
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19-02-2011, 09:36 PM
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what i dont get is why johns cams kept eating themselves, got to be bad oil pressure or something fucked up in the head, can honestly say ive never had a turbo cam totally lunch itself in 20 years of rst ownership!
He stated he was only running 15 psi so fuck all and should have run reliably really easy, so what went wrong, metering head fucked up thats an easy fix, im proper confused how ep got it so wrong.
He stated he was only running 15 psi so fuck all and should have run reliably really easy, so what went wrong, metering head fucked up thats an easy fix, im proper confused how ep got it so wrong.
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19-02-2011, 09:47 PM
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END OF THE MATTER NEVER FOR ME LUKE , WAITING I TOLD YOU I WOULD BE WAITING FOR YOU AT THE END OF IT ALL THE MONEY YOU COST ME AND A YEAR WITHOUT A CAR? YOU EXPECT ME TO LET IT GO??? DONT BE SILLY
PEOPLE WHO DO THAT KINDA SHIT WORK DESERVE FUCK ALL BUT SHUTTING DOWN.
ALSO WHY HAVE YOU NOT MENTIONED HOW YOU LEFT MY CAR IN THE STATE IT WAS IN? OH YEAH BECAUSE I AM RIGHT AND YOU FUCKED MY CAR AND FUCKED ME OVER IN THE END.
Your's truely.
Karma is a bitch luke.
PEOPLE WHO DO THAT KINDA SHIT WORK DESERVE FUCK ALL BUT SHUTTING DOWN.
ALSO WHY HAVE YOU NOT MENTIONED HOW YOU LEFT MY CAR IN THE STATE IT WAS IN? OH YEAH BECAUSE I AM RIGHT AND YOU FUCKED MY CAR AND FUCKED ME OVER IN THE END.
Your's truely.
Karma is a bitch luke.
19-02-2011, 09:59 PM
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19-02-2011, 10:02 PM
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People seem to be discussing John's story like it's a one off; it's not though?
D4, Morph and others have all had very bad experiences with EP. There's no smoke without fire IMO!
When was the last time anyone say a post like this about MSD/M.A.D/NMS/SCS/Reyland etc...
D4, Morph and others have all had very bad experiences with EP. There's no smoke without fire IMO!
When was the last time anyone say a post like this about MSD/M.A.D/NMS/SCS/Reyland etc...
19-02-2011, 10:04 PM
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RST,s are a piece of piss to work on and at a bar of boost reliability shouldnt be an issue
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19-02-2011, 10:08 PM
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19-02-2011, 10:11 PM
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Who are the others you keep mentioning??
Iv eard storys about every one of them tuners but tbh i take it as a pinch of salt and would use anyone of them myself if i had too..
I can gaurantee you something though,none of the tuners you mention above there would of dealt with any of the 3 mentioned in this thread or atleast if they did they wouldnt of gone through te shit luke did with them..
cheers danny
Iv eard storys about every one of them tuners but tbh i take it as a pinch of salt and would use anyone of them myself if i had too..
I can gaurantee you something though,none of the tuners you mention above there would of dealt with any of the 3 mentioned in this thread or atleast if they did they wouldnt of gone through te shit luke did with them..
cheers danny
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There is an old saying....... no smoke without fire.
Regardless of all the bad reports on this thread, reading charlie danny's and luke's posts alone have probably done the most damage!!
I can only go on what i read on here as i have no personal experience, but i've never seen 3 guys involved in a business that don't know who owns it, or what their role in the business is, or whether they are indeed working there or not
no wonder all the EP mapping threads have had a drumming on here from the likes of chip, stu, flux etc, as it appears luke has been 'learning to map' and not mapping.
all i can say is good luck to EP, and their un satisfied customers. sounds like you'll need it
Regardless of all the bad reports on this thread, reading charlie danny's and luke's posts alone have probably done the most damage!!
I can only go on what i read on here as i have no personal experience, but i've never seen 3 guys involved in a business that don't know who owns it, or what their role in the business is, or whether they are indeed working there or not
no wonder all the EP mapping threads have had a drumming on here from the likes of chip, stu, flux etc, as it appears luke has been 'learning to map' and not mapping.
all i can say is good luck to EP, and their un satisfied customers. sounds like you'll need it
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Not 100% sure but that sounds fair?
As for a 15psi rst,I built one myself with a bleed valve and a chipped ecu!!!
I did 25000 miles on a really old engine with this set up and it never let me down,was still running fine a few years later.
Went ok too!!!
Must have been fundamental engine probs to have caused all this,the Cvh is a tough old boot of an engine.
I wish I could afford another "chavvy" series one!!!