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Yes since afr tuning went in a shared unit with ep and i pulled out afr took over and now luke works for that company..
Luke has made mistakes just has everyone i wont lie but i can assure you that 99% of his work is spot on..
His mapping has got really good and over the years iv used a few people with far more experience do no where near as good a job at mapping as luke!!
Most of the cossie engine builds i deal with and do up at joe stevens and luke maps them and can assure anyone there isnt one problem that will arise on here about them??
Believe me theres more to these rst stories than meets the eye!!!
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Luke has made mistakes just has everyone i wont lie but i can assure you that 99% of his work is spot on..
His mapping has got really good and over the years iv used a few people with far more experience do no where near as good a job at mapping as luke!!
Most of the cossie engine builds i deal with and do up at joe stevens and luke maps them and can assure anyone there isnt one problem that will arise on here about them??
Believe me theres more to these rst stories than meets the eye!!!
cheers danny
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usually stay well clear of writing on such posts...
from what i had read it looked like enhanced performance were going to be the robin hood of the ford scene....helping people with their problems etc etc....danny and luke had distanced themselves from their old company abc motorsport which had got a bad reputation. they managed to convince everyone it had been someone elses doing.(someone bought danny out if i remember right and fucked it up?)
they quickly built up what i would describe as a decent reputation as enhanced performance,but now there are cracks appearing. a few weeks ago danny would fight tooth and nail for this company and defend luke no end-now it seems danny has moved on,and luke is getting the grief for what may or may not be very poor workmanship.if it is now falling apart i think its a shame as i got the impression that enhanced were going to become a reasonably big player in the ford tuning scene.
i may be completely off the mark and stand to be corrected if that is the case.
from what i had read it looked like enhanced performance were going to be the robin hood of the ford scene....helping people with their problems etc etc....danny and luke had distanced themselves from their old company abc motorsport which had got a bad reputation. they managed to convince everyone it had been someone elses doing.(someone bought danny out if i remember right and fucked it up?)
they quickly built up what i would describe as a decent reputation as enhanced performance,but now there are cracks appearing. a few weeks ago danny would fight tooth and nail for this company and defend luke no end-now it seems danny has moved on,and luke is getting the grief for what may or may not be very poor workmanship.if it is now falling apart i think its a shame as i got the impression that enhanced were going to become a reasonably big player in the ford tuning scene.
i may be completely off the mark and stand to be corrected if that is the case.
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As previously said, hope Luke is ok, never good if someone is injured.
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there's always 2 sides to the story, people should think about that before casting judgement with only half the story.
people on forums are too quick to jump on the bandwagon when someone says something is shit. "oh they must be cunts rip off bastards etc"
I smell a fish with the RST story. it dont all add up. Now i could call john a billy bullshitter but i wont until ive have all the facts and can make an informed judgement.
Ive been happy with any work ive had done by EP.
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people on forums are too quick to jump on the bandwagon when someone says something is shit. "oh they must be cunts rip off bastards etc"
I smell a fish with the RST story. it dont all add up. Now i could call john a billy bullshitter but i wont until ive have all the facts and can make an informed judgement.
Ive been happy with any work ive had done by EP.
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I always go out of my way to insure people get what they ask me for and iv dealt with litterally loads of people from here..
As iv said umpteen times ep wasnt mine i helped out there and had mainly involvement in the cossies..
I wasnt ever always there from day to day running of the business and had nothing to do with it financially..
Things have changed again lately so i have even less to do with ep but still sort out alot of booking etc for the mapping and still take on cossie engine builds etc
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Sorry, I'm confused...You have Danny@ Enhanced Performance as a username and are a trader, and have the stickers on your "track car" but in one breath you say you're involved and the next you're not?
I don't understand...
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it doesnt make sense.....who owned enhanced then if danny didnt? luke? charlie? i was always under the impression that from abc motorsport danny and luke went on to enhanced performance with danny as the main man and luke on the tools.?
and if enhanced has been bought out-who has received the buy out money?
also i hope luke recovers from his crash
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My advice to Luke was to turn away customers that didn't fit the business, or would be troublesome. I can't comment on the specifics of either job as I wasn't involved but I do know that both John's S1 and D4 RST caused Luke massive hassle with ongoing non-payment. I seem to remember D4 RST sitting in the workshop for weeks while the owner tried to get the money together to pay the bill.
I know that they will respond with "why pay for work that wasn't done right" but partially I think when one is working for customers that have a reputation for not paying one doesn't do the best work for them.
I believe that any tuner that isn't interested in doing a perfect 100% job with all the Is dotted and the Ts crossed then that tuner should refuse to do the work. Luke took on jobs that weren't worth doing then didn't do them as well as he could - in these situations mistakes get made and reputations get damaged.
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I know that they will respond with "why pay for work that wasn't done right" but partially I think when one is working for customers that have a reputation for not paying one doesn't do the best work for them.
I believe that any tuner that isn't interested in doing a perfect 100% job with all the Is dotted and the Ts crossed then that tuner should refuse to do the work. Luke took on jobs that weren't worth doing then didn't do them as well as he could - in these situations mistakes get made and reputations get damaged.
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The link to the enhanced developments website cannot be found.
Seems abut strange their company is registered in islington London on a shopping street but they trade in Horsham Sussex.?
Seems abut strange their company is registered in islington London on a shopping street but they trade in Horsham Sussex.?
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it doesnt make sense.....who owned enhanced then if danny didnt? luke? charlie? i was always under the impression that from abc motorsport danny and luke went on to enhanced performance with danny as the main man and luke on the tools.?
and if enhanced has been bought out-who has received the buy out money?
also i hope luke recovers from his crash
and if enhanced has been bought out-who has received the buy out money?
also i hope luke recovers from his crash
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Its pretty simple niel i do my bit for ep and they look after my car!!
I deal with certain jobs but deal with that person from beggining to end with out any probs
I had to become a trader on here as i was forced to by them above that then pushed me into doing more for ep..
If you really are confused or think i have anything to hide call me mate 07960144497
You wont though will you because its not your style and youd rather bitch on here??
Bet you miss the tags too??ah
I can and will stick up for luke when im sure im right but on some occassions i cant and wont untill i know the truth as like iv said i didnt deal with any of the named people in this thread..
cheers danny
I deal with certain jobs but deal with that person from beggining to end with out any probs
I had to become a trader on here as i was forced to by them above that then pushed me into doing more for ep..
If you really are confused or think i have anything to hide call me mate 07960144497
You wont though will you because its not your style and youd rather bitch on here??
Bet you miss the tags too??ah
I can and will stick up for luke when im sure im right but on some occassions i cant and wont untill i know the truth as like iv said i didnt deal with any of the named people in this thread..
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So, dunno about the "not my style"....if i have a question, i ask.
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The knowledge I gain from being around owners and tuners in the scene gives me a fair and balanced view on things i feel.
But your username and involvement isn't simple...one minute you post "I build the Cossie engines" "we have built dozens of 300bhp CVH engines" and the next you state "i have nothing to do with EP" IS confusing, hence me asking.
Simple question that was worth an attempt to clear up.
Anyway, i shall wash my hands of this now. Best of luck, in whatever your role is.
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Afr and ep have always been seperate companies!!!its just afr had bought out ep!!!
Ep dont do the mapping for afr as they do thier own..
So you mate are waffling bullshit
Hi ya jay
Things have been really good for ep mate and iv tried my best to keep luke and the company on top!!
We have loads and loads of happy customers but there will always be one or two that arent happy or the job goes wrong etc..
Unfortunately some people think that when you do a certain amount of work on thier car that you are then fully responsible for it going wrong in the future etc!!!lol
Like johns cam falling apart and his metering unit giving up on the way home??
Nothing to do with what it first come in for but yet john even says in his post that after spendind money with us we were then held responsible for any future miss haps!!!
There was fuck ups on johns car il admit as i had rows with luke over it but nothing to the extent john is making out..
As for morph and d4 well thats a 10 pager on its own!!!!
cheers danny
Ep dont do the mapping for afr as they do thier own..
So you mate are waffling bullshit
Hi ya jay
Things have been really good for ep mate and iv tried my best to keep luke and the company on top!!
We have loads and loads of happy customers but there will always be one or two that arent happy or the job goes wrong etc..
Unfortunately some people think that when you do a certain amount of work on thier car that you are then fully responsible for it going wrong in the future etc!!!lol
Like johns cam falling apart and his metering unit giving up on the way home??
Nothing to do with what it first come in for but yet john even says in his post that after spendind money with us we were then held responsible for any future miss haps!!!
There was fuck ups on johns car il admit as i had rows with luke over it but nothing to the extent john is making out..
As for morph and d4 well thats a 10 pager on its own!!!!
cheers danny
lol ok sunshine! Your 'company name' (i dont know if its enhanced performance, aft tuning or what) was mentiond by the owner of the skyline, i will try and get hold of the afr print out i was shown, looks like the FTSE stock market when the car came on boost lololol!
To be honest, no one could even post on this and somehow you will still make yourself out to look like a bit of a piece!
The op clearly asked you to look over his engine which you charged him Ł1200 for, so if something went wrong with the engine then you prob should of seen the problem especially if it was a worn cam, im pretty sure once the cam starts a little its quite clear to see the damage?
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John i might of been about mate when you brought your car in but you never dealt with me in any way!!!ever..
Youve also missed out many parts of the story but tbh i cant answer as i didnt do any dealings with you or work on your car..
Luke had an rta today and had to be cut free from his car so might not be able to defend himself for a while but as iv said unless lukes lied to me about a few things the above is far from the truth on many things..
As for me being part of ep,yes theres always been involvement and we had spoke about being partners again many times but its never come off for more reasons than one..
I would say more on the whole incidents mentioned but really dont know enough of the facts to comment anymore!!
But im sure a few will be able to remember me and john/caz having words(cossie4i thread and others)where i asked outright what the problems were and why try and slate us but not speak about what was bothering you..
As for morph and d4 well them storys are honestly a joke!!!!
Also john when you last came to pick up your car you didnt moan about a thing as far as i was told but just begged to take your car promising payment the next day??
Anyway as said that really is as much as i know and can answer on at mo..
cheers danny
Youve also missed out many parts of the story but tbh i cant answer as i didnt do any dealings with you or work on your car..
Luke had an rta today and had to be cut free from his car so might not be able to defend himself for a while but as iv said unless lukes lied to me about a few things the above is far from the truth on many things..
As for me being part of ep,yes theres always been involvement and we had spoke about being partners again many times but its never come off for more reasons than one..
I would say more on the whole incidents mentioned but really dont know enough of the facts to comment anymore!!
But im sure a few will be able to remember me and john/caz having words(cossie4i thread and others)where i asked outright what the problems were and why try and slate us but not speak about what was bothering you..
As for morph and d4 well them storys are honestly a joke!!!!
Also john when you last came to pick up your car you didnt moan about a thing as far as i was told but just begged to take your car promising payment the next day??
Anyway as said that really is as much as i know and can answer on at mo..
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Pictures dont lie danny, and neither do i, Yeah i have mate's like caz etc that was around when i was having issue's with EP so they know full well the story, You and luke are good hiding your self's behind cosworth's and the people surrounding them, I ask you this read my post and explain why it wasnt gauranteed in the first place so why should payment be needed if it's gauranteed by EP's workmanship? Oh yeah that's because yet again bullshit,
Check my pictures danny go on see what EP did to my S1 MINT i may add
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I have been aware of Johns problems since the beginning and have seen the state of the car since being in their hands, there is no bull shit here, they ruined his car!
Add to that the recent discoveries by Jamsport with D4's car and that should be enough for anyone to know all they need to know about EP.
Add to that the recent discoveries by Jamsport with D4's car and that should be enough for anyone to know all they need to know about EP.
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I have been aware of Johns problems since the beginning and have seen the state of the car since being in their hands, there is no bull shit here, they ruined his car!
Add to that the recent discoveries by Jamsport with D4's car and that should be enough for anyone to know all they need to know about EP.
Add to that the recent discoveries by Jamsport with D4's car and that should be enough for anyone to know all they need to know about EP.
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so what you are saying is luke is/was enhanced performance? so he will have been the beneficiary of the buy out from afr? if that is the case then you have answered the question i asked......thanks.
if luke was enhanced perfomance he had some good friends... like danny who were prepared to stick his name on his car and be prepared to advertise on here as a trader as enhanced performance.
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Fair point. But once that tuner has learnt from his mistakes then he should be in business provided that he doesn't screw up again in the same way.
And when a customer has taken their car, promising to pay next day, and doesn't pay, then I can see why a tuner would be unwilling to deal with that customer any further.
My guess is that once Luke is out of hospital (I think he's in one today following a car crash) I'm sure he won't spend days on this forum answering as these things never play out well on a forum.
Reputation is everything in the world of tuning and I think it's a shame that Luke's isn't better, however it's also a shame that the jobs that Luke should have refused to do, because the customers couldn't afford to pay, are also the jobs that are coming back to haunt him.
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And when a customer has taken their car, promising to pay next day, and doesn't pay, then I can see why a tuner would be unwilling to deal with that customer any further.
My guess is that once Luke is out of hospital (I think he's in one today following a car crash) I'm sure he won't spend days on this forum answering as these things never play out well on a forum.
Reputation is everything in the world of tuning and I think it's a shame that Luke's isn't better, however it's also a shame that the jobs that Luke should have refused to do, because the customers couldn't afford to pay, are also the jobs that are coming back to haunt him.
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so what you are saying is luke is/was enhanced performance? so he will have been the beneficiary of the buy out from afr? if that is the case then you have answered the question i asked......thanks.
if luke was enhanced perfomance he had some good friends... like danny who were prepared to stick his name on his car and be prepared to advertise on here as a trader as enhanced performance.
if luke was enhanced perfomance he had some good friends... like danny who were prepared to stick his name on his car and be prepared to advertise on here as a trader as enhanced performance.
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Fair point. But once that tuner has learnt from his mistakes then he should be in business provided that he doesn't screw up again in the same way.
And when a customer has taken their car, promising to pay next day, and doesn't pay, then I can see why a tuner would be unwilling to deal with that customer any further.
My guess is that once Luke is out of hospital (I think he's in one today following a car crash) I'm sure he won't spend days on this forum answering as these things never play out well on a forum.
Reputation is everything in the world of tuning and I think it's a shame that Luke's isn't better, however it's also a shame that the jobs that Luke should have refused to do, because the customers couldn't afford to pay, are also the jobs that are coming back to haunt him.
Charlie
And when a customer has taken their car, promising to pay next day, and doesn't pay, then I can see why a tuner would be unwilling to deal with that customer any further.
My guess is that once Luke is out of hospital (I think he's in one today following a car crash) I'm sure he won't spend days on this forum answering as these things never play out well on a forum.
Reputation is everything in the world of tuning and I think it's a shame that Luke's isn't better, however it's also a shame that the jobs that Luke should have refused to do, because the customers couldn't afford to pay, are also the jobs that are coming back to haunt him.
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Fair point. But once that tuner has learnt from his mistakes then he should be in business provided that he doesn't screw up again in the same way.
And when a customer has taken their car, promising to pay next day, and doesn't pay, then I can see why a tuner would be unwilling to deal with that customer any further.
My guess is that once Luke is out of hospital (I think he's in one today following a car crash) I'm sure he won't spend days on this forum answering as these things never play out well on a forum.
Reputation is everything in the world of tuning and I think it's a shame that Luke's isn't better, however it's also a shame that the jobs that Luke should have refused to do, because the customers couldn't afford to pay, are also the jobs that are coming back to haunt him.
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And when a customer has taken their car, promising to pay next day, and doesn't pay, then I can see why a tuner would be unwilling to deal with that customer any further.
My guess is that once Luke is out of hospital (I think he's in one today following a car crash) I'm sure he won't spend days on this forum answering as these things never play out well on a forum.
Reputation is everything in the world of tuning and I think it's a shame that Luke's isn't better, however it's also a shame that the jobs that Luke should have refused to do, because the customers couldn't afford to pay, are also the jobs that are coming back to haunt him.
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I'll add there, Because luke didnt do the work right (Draining oil and gallerys etc Which he didnt do) He agreed a full new engine build for free as it was his fault! Simple in my eyes. Also he said he was charging me because charlie wouldnt release the car without payment! HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF A GAURANTEE?
It drained of oil because luke didnt fix the return oil pipe on hence lost oil on the road. I am NO mechanic i am not meant to check there work i ask is it all good? He said yes that's all i need to know as a customer!!
Christ get some brain cells!!!
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quoted from dannys post above PLEASE SEE LINK BELOW CAZ'S AS ITS A REPLY TO CHARLIE
"Now afr have bought ep out and got luke to work for them"
that gives me the impression that afr bought out enhanced performanceI WAS NOT ASSUMING,I WAS GOING OFF FACTS.i was going to keep out of this now but what you have stated(and you were involved with the business alongside danny) it seems like one of you dont even know what has gone on?????
so what is the truth? did afr buy enhanced from luke or did they just take over and luke threw away his business to become employed by afr
"Now afr have bought ep out and got luke to work for them"
that gives me the impression that afr bought out enhanced performanceI WAS NOT ASSUMING,I WAS GOING OFF FACTS.i was going to keep out of this now but what you have stated(and you were involved with the business alongside danny) it seems like one of you dont even know what has gone on?????
so what is the truth? did afr buy enhanced from luke or did they just take over and luke threw away his business to become employed by afr
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Danny, the thread that john started, and i backed up is because it is 100% true!
You (as a company) offered a full guaranteed inspection of the car at a cost of Ł1200, ... why would you charge an amount for a guarantee, if after its been in your hands your not going to guarantee it then charge for work that should not have needed doing had your inspection been up to scratch!?!?
You can come on here and try and worm your way out of it, but the pictures and experience that was had is enough evidence to prove otherwise to your lies!
I for one watched that S1 go from a mint shell with a head gasket blown, and christ knows how much money spent at your garage for work that wouldn't even get the car home without an issue on more than one occasion, an S1 that came back with exterior damage as mentioned above!
John has held back from naming the garage that fucked his pride and joy that everyone has seen previous in threads, and im glad now that everyone who has seen and heard about Johns, D4's, Morph's now know who caused the damage and shoddy work!
You (as a company) offered a full guaranteed inspection of the car at a cost of Ł1200, ... why would you charge an amount for a guarantee, if after its been in your hands your not going to guarantee it then charge for work that should not have needed doing had your inspection been up to scratch!?!?
You can come on here and try and worm your way out of it, but the pictures and experience that was had is enough evidence to prove otherwise to your lies!
I for one watched that S1 go from a mint shell with a head gasket blown, and christ knows how much money spent at your garage for work that wouldn't even get the car home without an issue on more than one occasion, an S1 that came back with exterior damage as mentioned above!
John has held back from naming the garage that fucked his pride and joy that everyone has seen previous in threads, and im glad now that everyone who has seen and heard about Johns, D4's, Morph's now know who caused the damage and shoddy work!
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who built the engine in d4 s car who made the nice inlet , why weld a rs 500 intercooler to the rad?? i dont understand how any company could do that for a customer and think it looks ok??
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John i dont hide behind anything mate..
I know you and luke had dealings and i didnt know all the truth but you are also making it out alot different to how it was..
If luke did make all them bodges then all i can say is thats terrible but i cant say anymore on it as he will need to defend himself
As for findings on d4..yeah i hear the engines fucked??
After constant mind changing and umpteen hours on the dyno and a not so clever owner im not suprised??
As for me building any cvhs il openly say i hate them and have never built one personally although luke has..
cheers danny
I know you and luke had dealings and i didnt know all the truth but you are also making it out alot different to how it was..
If luke did make all them bodges then all i can say is thats terrible but i cant say anymore on it as he will need to defend himself
As for findings on d4..yeah i hear the engines fucked??
After constant mind changing and umpteen hours on the dyno and a not so clever owner im not suprised??
As for me building any cvhs il openly say i hate them and have never built one personally although luke has..
cheers danny
So gaurantee was shot as EP wouldnt stand by there work and gaurantee and by looking at my S1 i am not suprised., Took months/Nearly a year to get the work done, Came back damaged in more way's than 1.
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quoted from dannys post above
"Now afr have bought ep out and got luke to work for them"
that gives me the impression that afr bought out enhanced performance.i was going to keep out of this now but what you have stated(and you were involved with the business alongside danny) it seems like one of you dont even know what has gone on?????
so what is the truth? did afr buy enhanced from luke or did they just take over and luke threw away his business to become employed by afr
"Now afr have bought ep out and got luke to work for them"
that gives me the impression that afr bought out enhanced performance.i was going to keep out of this now but what you have stated(and you were involved with the business alongside danny) it seems like one of you dont even know what has gone on?????
so what is the truth? did afr buy enhanced from luke or did they just take over and luke threw away his business to become employed by afr
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ive just noticed this quote above.....
so did enhanced performance move into a unit with the new ABC motorsport that danny and luke had sold a few years back and was helped by them with admin etc?
the same abc that danny claimed had fucked up since he sold it.
is the above statement correct,if so does that mean that afr is actually a new name for abc motorsport?
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My advice to Luke was to turn away customers that didn't fit the business, or would be troublesome. I can't comment on the specifics of either job as I wasn't involved but I do know that both John's S1 and D4 RST caused Luke massive hassle with ongoing non-payment. I seem to remember D4 RST sitting in the workshop for weeks while the owner tried to get the money together to pay the bill.
I know that they will respond with "why pay for work that wasn't done right" but partially I think when one is working for customers that have a reputation for not paying one doesn't do the best work for them.
I believe that any tuner that isn't interested in doing a perfect 100% job with all the Is dotted and the Ts crossed then that tuner should refuse to do the work. Luke took on jobs that weren't worth doing then didn't do them as well as he could - in these situations mistakes get made and reputations get damaged.
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I know that they will respond with "why pay for work that wasn't done right" but partially I think when one is working for customers that have a reputation for not paying one doesn't do the best work for them.
I believe that any tuner that isn't interested in doing a perfect 100% job with all the Is dotted and the Ts crossed then that tuner should refuse to do the work. Luke took on jobs that weren't worth doing then didn't do them as well as he could - in these situations mistakes get made and reputations get damaged.
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I think Danny may have made a mistake as I don't think AFR bought Enhanced Performance. As with a lot of this thread I don't know for sure.
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im just quoting facts that both you and danny are stating in this thread.no-one seems to know what the fuck has gone on and who owns the business......
then after being questioned about a couple of quotes- you go off home for the weekend...see you monday. god,i never get involved in these but this is fun!!
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AFR is a company that tunes cars run by two guys called I think, Matt and John. From what I have seen they are specialising in tuning and buidling high end Japanese performance cars and are doing very well. It is nothing to do with ABC Motorsport.
http://www.afrtuning.co.uk/
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AFR is a company that tunes cars run by two guys called I think, Matt and John. From what I have seen they are specialising in tuning and buidling high end Japanese performance cars and are doing very well. It is nothing to do with ABC Motorsport.
http://www.afrtuning.co.uk/
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im just quoting facts that both you and danny are stating in this thread.no-one seems to know what the fuck has gone on and who owns the business......
then after being questioned about a couple of quotes- you go off home for the weekend...see you monday. god,i never get involved in these but this is fun!!
then after being questioned about a couple of quotes- you go off home for the weekend...see you monday. god,i never get involved in these but this is fun!!