YOREVOL

i do not want to comment about the work that has been carried out or the op.
can both sides not get trading standards involved and let them sort it out.
i know it sounds extreme but it will be an end to the matter.

gaz s1

i can honestly say in over 15 years of rst ownership i have only seen 1 cracked head and that was due to the headgasket popping and being driven home over 60 mile with water boiling over every 10 mins and putting stone cold water back in everytime( not me), got home slapped a second hand head on the same night and the car run sweet as a nut till he sold it on a year later.

bluntys1rsturbo

My advice to Danny would be... If you have no part in EP then keep things separate, get a rep for what you do best not for someone elses work (good or bad)

totally agree

Ginge !

which was what i was getting at that he should do, i fucking hate bad garages and even worse i hate seeing good places close due to being out priced by shite places who never last 5 years, im a tight fucker with spending on cars but its cause i have been burned by shite places in my time so try to avoid using places i dont know if i can

hell i even spent a new years eve on the way to the pub under a car, removing part of the gearbox fixing a problem on a mates scooby that a garage i recomended fucked up out of guilt then went out after i managed to sort the issue

i no longer recomend anyone i just mention names of places i have heard such as stu or paul at north yorks when people want cossie stuff ect

Ginge !

i have seen alot of transit duratorq cracked heads but that is caused by the exact same thing as most people who drive transits dont actually own them and so they are taken in for repair when the issue stops the car from actually driving

its also why we get heads tested now for all headgasket jobs as its alot of money in parts for a transit head job for it to be taken apart again due to a hair line crack being missed

gaz s1

im with you mate, ive seen some many people ripped off by so called experts its untrue, i can understand trying to get 300 bhp out of a cvh is going to be a nightmare but they should not have took the job if they didnt know what they are doing, but a 15 psi s1 aint hard at all to sort out so cant understand how a nice s1 got broke due to so many issues, something went BADLY wrong somewhere!

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

ive seen it first hand where you take you pride and joy to a specialist and find bits missing, or the parts that where broken already scrapped when you get there so you end up with a 4k bill....

gaz s1

This is why i never leave my car anywhere, set up only while i watch and if somethings fookeed i take it home and sort it myself, sad state of affairs but you cant trust no one imo, i got burnt once many moons ago and learnt my lesson not that there aint good peeps out there

Classic example is rs turbo on rollers bit smokey but we knew it was the valve seals, tuner tells mate turbos fucked, we tell him just tune it up and dont worry about the smoke, gets it home, hour later seals changed and guess what no smoke but people who dont know better would have been right ripped off and still have the same issue after!!, we knew the turbo was ok becauseit came off a mates car as he switched to stage 3 and the car never smoked at all.

Martin-Hadland

iTrader: (2)

Thankfully some customers have a little more faith otherwise we'd all be out of business!

gaz s1

to be honest mate it seems to be rst,s owners who get ripped off all the time, cossie owners seem to be looked after better, we just must be looked at as guillable, my mate gary (goose) with the v reg white escos came to you all the time and never had a bad word to say about you

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

agreed! you excpect tuners to drop every job they have on just so you can watch them work?

bluntys1rsturbo

i think the ford scene is lucky to have such great tuners about eg reyland,nms,msd,scs etc etc even around my way we have turbosystems and gt motorsport and used to have castle performance until the owner lost the plot

Martin-Hadland

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Those bits fitted?

pimp-daddy

Lmao

b63_rs

well when your getting trashed on the interweb with people jumping on the band wagon who can blame him ?

Ginge !

martin im sure if when you have a plumber over you keep in the house the first visit till you realise its someone whos spot on and then trust them

faith is a dangerous thing,,, just takes one time to be fucked over then you wont trust anyone

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

its true martin but it completely put me off modified cars for two yrs.

i took the car to this place and it had snapped the front prop on the motor way..... so i know it was going to have broken alot (escos) so i drop it off for inspection....

when i get a phone call i get told the following is broken
front diff
front prop
front drive shaft
sump (but no oil leak lol)
two lugs that bolt the gearbox to block (on mint 200block)
gearbox

so i say i can get the box /sump/ drive shaft but no the front diff ...

so they agree to rebuild my 800mile ashfield motorsport 200block engine into a 205 block as i wasnt full of money, for Ł2500 and get the car back on the road....

but i said im skint and i will pick it up, to which i get told the cars in bits and its Ł500 to put it back together, so i bite the bullet and say go ahead, but tell them im coming to see it, to which everytime i arrange to view they are closed lol.

anyway a few days later i get a phone call the internals of my engine are fecked and ashfield havent rebuilt it properley, so i take their word for this and pay another load of money and buy a bottom end from them...

anyway i say i want to see all the bits but when i get there all there is, is a smashed gearbox, no broken block ect.... (which i paid Ł2500 to replace)
so anyway i pay the money and take the car to run in.. only for it to stop dead and no start twice on the way home, dead battery (was only there a week)

so i run it in and take it back and tell them the fans that were working are not anymore and i ask why half of my loom is on show, they tell me that my prefectly running rebuilt escos had wiring problems, (they could at least tidy it up)

anyway they had agreeded to fit my brand new stage 3 kit and intercooler which they did and set it up, for me to find on the way home it flat spots like made in 4th.... so i phone him back and get told he will sort it..

next day plugs dead / change them / next day plugs dead again.

so i agree a date to return the car by recovery (after finding they have moved) to get there and find them not there again and no answer on the phones.....

so i pay the Ł230 recovery bill and sell the car....

now i swapped that car for a fiesta st that was worth Ł9.5k and Ł500 cash, but i paid Ł13.5k for this car as it was mint and i spent Ł4500 with them so you can see how much i lost from them.

the car was taken to another tuner by new owner and turned out thy had fucked the new chip and the mapping was shit , but once done the car was mint, and i saw it at ace cafe a few weeks ago....

but for me the fiesta st lost alot more as ford dropped their prices by 3k 2 weeks later
so i ended it up with a Ł6.5k fiesta for a 18k cosworth due to shit workmanship

b63_rs

exactly! car "tuning" is a profession just like plumbers,electricians etc..

gaz s1

you still dont resort to insults, hes a paying customer and you try to sort it out so both parties are satisfied, surely thats good business practice!

Are ep sorting out these people issues, i dont know as its going to be expensive when it involves turbos welded to manifolds etc........

b63_rs

i do agree with what you say gaz and its a shame that a company has to resort to insults and it shouldnt happen but if luke/danny/ep/or trotters independent trading what ever its called believe there right in whats happened yet the judgement has already been passed on them on here,i can kind of see why he might loose his "rag"

Martin-Hadland

iTrader: (2)

Does sound like you had a bad deal, for me alarm bells would have rang at the point when they said it was in bits and it was Ł500 if you hadn't authorised stipping.

dojj

iTrader: (3)

you've just GOT to name an shame this lot because they have seriously fucked you in the arse there fella

gaz s1

to me this could be sorted without fuss, pay for morphs mapping as i think thats the only issue he had, rebuild d4,s car as its fucked and only lasted less than a week,maybe a nice 230 bhp spec which will be reliable with johns s1 i dont know as he has broke the car now but as i read it he has kept an ecu and loom which he promised to return, so get together and iron out a compromise, then stick to cossies as no one with them seems to have issues with ep,s workmanship.

fordsportjay

iTrader: (6)

dojj, think it was abc motorsport as per things mentioned earlier in thread-

gaz s1

oh no!!

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

i know as they wouldnt put it back together unless i paid lol.... but i was 19 and had lost my job and my partner was pregnant with my little girl, so i sold my 3dr project to fix it.... only to find it was a shed when i got it back

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

Yhep Martin all fiited and bled through.. The pedal feels rock solid

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

cant be arse these days mate, but all i will say is for ford stuff, my faourite places are....

jamsport
nms
mad (my 3dr is going to mark soon)
and power engineering if you have a rst as Ian ball is back and hes realy good with them

i cant comment on reyland /scs as ive never used or my friends......

a mate of mine used msd and was very happy too

studabear

His attitude to rst owners is a joke, I think he's on the wind up.

series_one_rst

think i`ll just have a go at learning to map my own car. sounds cheaper, if i fuck it up its my bad.

feel sorry for all you guys that got shafted, i`ve been a vehicle tech for 15 years, believe me there are some right dodgy cowboys out there, not all of us are scamming cunts though. hope you get some cash back guys.

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

Ive just read most of this thread and im truely shocked at EP.

OldDan

Do people not take pride in what they do anymore?

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

alot of people still do mate, msd/mad nms and jamsport ect

Enhanced Performance

come on char1e you no the situation with john speak up !!!

Enhanced Performance

The tuner is not always to blame take a step back guys please .

i have nothing to hide and would be happy with the OP first post and then my reply , then locked so all can veiw and make there own mind up..

There is alot more to this one behined the scenes which im pretty sure JOHN HARVEY would not really like me to bring up !!!

You are all taking one side..

fordsportjay

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he will be counting his winnings from playing poker on friday night.

YOREVOL

i must say that this is turning into an assasination of eps reputation.
the problem i find with customers is the statement "my mate says....." and 99/100 the mate doesnt know the full story.
the only way to solve this is for ep and the op to sit down and talk,not throw insults at each other.

**caz**

All thats goin to do is ask Char1e to tell the story you gave him, not the story you gave John! as already said in a previous reply to you........

mrjenrst

Why is it all i seem to see on your post's regarding ex partners is there all on car forums, or met through car forums?

It's Czech Mate

Already explained, learn to read the whole thread before commenting at least