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Old 13-02-2011, 02:57 PM
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Default cossie 4x4 converted to 2wd abs problem

...the light is on......so i assume its something to do with the conversion, i have a 2wd abs unit to put in, is anything else required or to be modded?

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Old 13-02-2011, 03:01 PM
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You only just got it...you should be out kickin its head in....
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...no its wet and i want abs working! LOL.
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Just break the fucker Phil.......whats the gearbox like

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...come on give me a few days FFS!
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Is the light staying on when the ignition is switched on.The money you have can you not just get an auto electrican to look at it.
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Cosworths to me = DIY.......the light comes on from ignition and never goes out

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Right it has 4x4 front brakes so i guess it has a 4x4 abs system so the 2wd abs ecu would only work if it had a 2wd front setup?

Will check fuses.

Anything else?
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Bust it .....Its broke allready so you may as well....lol
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the 2wd abs is different to the 4wd abs
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so whats on it 2wd running gear all round and a 4wd abs pump n ecu
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I am not sure lol...waiting to hear if the rear diff was changed but i assume the rear abs would be the same as the 4x4? The front is deffo 4x4 as is the pump and abs ecu.
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pretty sure i have a 4x4 abs ecu if you want it?
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Have you checked the brake fluid level?

My Saff at the moment is 4x4 to 2wd and i haven't changed anything brake wise and my Esc was also the same.
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Dan are you using all the 4x4 sensors though and front suspension etc? Will check level!

Cheers Matt i will bare that in mind
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Conversion won`t be the problem, the difference between 4x4 and 2wd abs is basically software....

Look for more simple problems first, take out all of the sensors and clean them, just a small amount of iron filings on them can stop them working properly(They are magnetic)

also check the fluid level, if it drops below the lower level the abs will switch off....... and check the both electrical connections on the reservoir cap, if the small sqaure 2 pin one is not in properly the abs will not work either..

Loads of simple things can cause this type of system to stop working and it`s usually an easy fix
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Originally Posted by Ima Racing
Dan are you using all the 4x4 sensors though and front suspension etc? Will check level!

Cheers Matt i will bare that in mind
Yep I used all the 4x4 sensors on both cars the Esc cos are a different shape so had no choice. The suspension legs will make no difference to the abs working or not IMO.
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Cheers Diva will do that...so 4x4 and 2wd abs is all interchangable?
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Conversion won`t be the problem, the difference between 4x4 and 2wd abs is basically software....
and the wiring looms are different as are the ecus (green and red iirc, although i seem to recall a yellow version somewhere along the line) with different pin positions and therefore different interlocks
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
and the wiring looms are different as are the ecus (green and red iirc, although i seem to recall a yellow version somewhere along the line) with different pin positions and therefore different interlocks

I think most of the physical differences are down to equipment progression and changes in technology Nick, the operation is the same but the software is different to take into account the constant 4 wheel drive setup......

I`ve not noticed a difference on the road though, i`ve had a few 4x4 saffs and an Escos converted to 2wd and they seem to behave ok on the brakes in all weathers...
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Originally Posted by Ima Racing
Cheers Diva will do that...so 4x4 and 2wd abs is all interchangable?

Late 2wd pumps and 4x4 pumps are the same Phil, i`ve used a late model 2wd pump to repair a 4x4 system..... All of the wheel sensora are the same with the exception of Escos which have a different plug on them but are the same sensor, the Escos sensors are also the same as Mk3 Granada.

Various other parts are interchangeable but as Nick says, you have to watch out for differences in the later bits....
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i think they are too, as the 2wd was on a totally separate loom, but the 4x4 was more integrated.

i just wanted to point out that there are differences though, and i would not necessarily want to use a 4x4 ecu on a 2wd car
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the 4wd abs has an extra relay in the fusebox

but if you've gone from 4wd to 2wd you don't actually have to change anything so someone's probably introduced problems by buggering about with it
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do a search on here for abs faults, theres a few posts from a bloke called 'john@work' who knows his stuff.
basically check the resistance of the sensors at the ecu etc.
for the light to be on permanently, not just coming on when you brake or start moving, its going to be either a sensor open/short circuit, brake fluid level switch (was the fault with mine, level good but sensor dodgy) or fault with the abs module.
im guessing its the yellow light staying on not the red?
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Purple relays under paaenger side dash Phil
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