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Old 06-02-2011, 03:34 PM
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i wouldnt make this a sticky!
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it's stickied due to so many people asking the same question and then so many people giving the same answer

as mark said a few posts up on page 2
Old 06-02-2011, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dave_s2_rst
^doubt that very much, doesn't ahmed bayjoo have ties with mountune?
Ahmed does now yes but the cars were released back in 2000 and I don't know if Ahmed was operating back then.
Old 06-02-2011, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Gav Diamond
My car made good power, apparently 518 bhp on his rollers at 1.9 bar boost.
I took it to a rolling road shoot out but run it at 1.7 bar and it made 480bhp but was told it was very lean at the top.

I then spoke to 2 seperate tuners and was told a good top speed run would have seen my very expensive engine melt at the boost he set it to...think it was safe at 1.4 bar but nothing above.

Your company would do well to invest in the equipment to do the Jap cars yourself and cut all ties with Paul Hills.

Saying that:





If you cannot notice that in the top left hand corner of the graph it states Base ignition map, maybe you should not be mapping either???
Well thats what i meant - hey, i must have been still traumatised by the boost he tried to shove through my engine. My badd. I must have boost on the brain.....
Old 06-02-2011, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian M500COS
Well a T6-2000 never lies and is a very clever piece of kit. It tells you exactly what the mapper has done and more importantly when he did it and what he had for supper!

Reading back from what he did on my car was shocking - almost as shocking as his effort to control the boost. All shocking....

ian do you no anyone who can read the data logging on my t6 ecu as swindon racing engines fucked my engine up big time and would be nice to have logging read as i no its there fault as the engine was ran alot further on a dyno before with no issues thanks
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
i just want to know what hes done to piss off so many people
Knackered their cars and took a lot of money off them, overcharged them for sub-standard work, pretended to know what he was doing...etc etc.......

If you did a vote of the tuners who were in the frame on here the most for being predominately bad then Paul Hills will be there at the very pinnacle.

He is single handedly responsible for putting me off cosworths for life. And almost put me off performance cars and made me drive at almost driving test speed for months afterwards. After my experience It will end in tears.
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Originally Posted by cossyking
ian do you no anyone who can read the data logging on my t6 ecu as swindon racing engines fucked my engine up big time and would be nice to have logging read as i no its there fault as the engine was ran alot further on a dyno before with no issues thanks
Hi Mark,

I know this is probably not what you want to hear but Harvey Gibbs is very good with T6's. He would be able to tell you what they had done and when they did it.

Failing that, Martin Hadland could also read it I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by Ian M500COS
Hi Mark,

I know this is probably not what you want to hear but Harvey Gibbs is very good with T6's. He would be able to tell you what they had done and when they did it.

Failing that, Martin Hadland could also read it I'm sure.
that aint good then coz i dont get on with either as you no
Old 07-02-2011, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Less.
think the damage might all ready have been done to your reputation on here?
sorry i didnt know everyone has jap cars
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Originally Posted by wozzy
brilliant. that bit made me laugh so hard a bit of wee came out!!

Paul Hills couldn't keep a car running for 24 minutes let alone 24hours.

( and for the record its le man. not le mon. thats a fruit )
sorry im a rally boy i dont watch that shit
Old 07-02-2011, 08:35 AM
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Seems a shame really, as lets be honest you've got to be half decent to work at Mountune.
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Originally Posted by OldDan
Seems a shame really, as lets be honest you've got to be half decent to work at Mountune.
Not sure if jogi would agree!
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jon at south coast peformance i would find someone else to do your jap stuff mate.

you and your customers will be alot happier with the results and piece of mind that its done properly.....

norris designs.....
ma developments does some???
Ian ball who recently took over power engineering is good with jap stuff...
and so on

im sure alot of people can point you in the right direction but i would start with one of these.....

ive also heard good things about tdi north / and a few others ....


all the best for the future....
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Originally Posted by OldDan
Seems a shame really, as lets be honest you've got to be half decent to work at Mountune.

You've also got to be half decent to STAY at Mountune
Old 07-02-2011, 09:02 AM
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Tommy field @ FMS should be able to read your data logging on the T6 Mark

Give them a call,
Old 07-02-2011, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by polly_x
Ian, thats an ignition map so doubt it was controlling your boost!!!

I'd be more worried that the table only had RPM values upto 3750?
Don't be stupid Stu, the map goes up to 8500 but the figures don't change anyway!
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Originally Posted by M K
Tommy field @ FMS should be able to read your data logging on the T6 Mark

Give them a call,
that's an even bigger can of worms

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Originally Posted by rsmark86
jon at south coast peformance i would find someone else to do your jap stuff mate.

you and your customers will be alot happier with the results and piece of mind that its done properly.....

norris designs.....
ma developments does some???
Ian ball who recently took over power engineering is good with jap stuff...
and so on

im sure alot of people can point you in the right direction but i would start with one of these.....

ive also heard good things about tdi north / and a few others ....


all the best for the future....
hi mate, yea after this thread i think we will be as i showed my boss today and he was shocked to see the rep paul has and had no idea and he told me the main reason he used him was coz hes known him for years. also i went to start the mr2 today and its idleing at about 2500 rpm and i found paul had adjusted the idle speed screw in which you cant do on mr2's as it puts the throttle position sensor out and in turn confuses the iscv so ive had to get the thottle body off again and reset it

i think what were going to do is when the owner of the mr2 has done his 1000 mile run in period were going to have it mapped by someone else and see wot they think of pauls run in map

thank you for the all the best and your info

does anyone know who can map hks f-con pro ecus

jon
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just to save confusion i was posting on mr noiseys account earlyer
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if anyone is at the fast show at santa pod on the 27th of march please come and have a chat with me as id like to meet more peeps on here

unfortunatly we havent got the fiesta cossie to take with us this year but we will be testing the mr2 and tezmanian devil's escort fingers crossed

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Originally Posted by jon_ross
hi mate, yea after this thread i think we will be as i showed my boss today and he was shocked to see the rep paul has and had no idea and he told me the main reason he used him was coz hes known him for years. also i went to start the mr2 today and its idleing at about 2500 rpm and i found paul had adjusted the idle speed screw in which you cant do on mr2's as it puts the throttle position sensor out and in turn confuses the iscv so ive had to get the thottle body off again and reset it

i think what were going to do is when the owner of the mr2 has done his 1000 mile run in period were going to have it mapped by someone else and see wot they think of pauls run in map

thank you for the all the best and your info

does anyone know who can map hks f-con pro ecus

jon
ian ball at power engineering ..... let him know matt and waynes mate mark with the 3dr sent you...

and tell him where you work and that you want someone to mapp all your jap stuff and he will look after you....

it had a bad rep for a while at powers but the twat that was there is now at totd so its a good place to go.

plus ian owns a skyline himself and loves his jap stuff.
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woooooooooooo, this guy has touched my car i dont think i'l be turning the key until someone else has looked over it now after seeing all this!!

jon, that map he was ment to be sending you, please delete it straight away when you get it, i dont want want my car blowing up, taken me long enough to build the bloody thing

just to add, I can vouch for jons workmanship, iv known him for many years, proberly too many lol, he takes great pride on what he does, he might be abit rough round the edges (himself, not he's work lol) but he gets the job done with no probs, and my car wouldn't be where it's at now if it wasn't for jon helping me out/pointing me in the right direction! (jon, don't think your help isnt appriciated mate, il repay the favors when you pull your finger with the rst
so for those suggesting earlier in the topic that he doesn't know what he's on about can shut up to be blunt, you neither know nor have seen he's work so comments like that are not needed!

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Originally Posted by tezmanian devil
woooooooooooo, this guy has touched my car i dont think i'l be turning the key until someone else has looked over it now after seeing all this!!

jon, that map he was ment to be sending you, please delete it straight away when you get it, i dont want want my car blowing up, taken me long enough to build the bloody thing
dont worry mate as john pointed out earlier they mapp ford stuff in house....

so dont worry mate,

jon has already pointed out that they will be redoing anything done by paul hills
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I wouldn't leave the MR2 to run in on a map that doesn't even idle right. If it's bore washing in those first thousand miles then it'll never be right...

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Originally Posted by cjwood555
I wouldn't leave the MR2 to run in on a map that doesn't even idle right. If it's bore washing in those first thousand miles then it'll never be right...

Chris
i agree , very good point , better safe than sorry as its got to have had alot of money spent
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
this is the sort of reply i was looking for no slagging off of MY work just an answer to my question, thank you very much tabetha
NO probs matey, glad to share the printouts etc if wanted, just pm me.
Like I say he IS a very capable man imo, but seems to lack the enthusiasm a lot of the time, which is a real shame.
I've driven some evo's he did which went abroad, all were run on another set of rollers as a check for other reasons, all were perfect, PH did have NO knowledge there would be a check run on each car.
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Originally Posted by tezmanian devil
woooooooooooo, this guy has touched my car i dont think i'l be turning the key until someone else has looked over it now after seeing all this!!

jon, that map he was ment to be sending you, please delete it straight away when you get it, i dont want want my car blowing up, taken me long enough to build the bloody thing

just to add, I can vouch for jons workmanship, iv known him for many years, proberly too many lol, he takes great pride on what he does, he might be abit rough round the edges (himself, not he's work lol) but he gets the job done with no probs, and my car wouldn't be where it's at now if it wasn't for jon helping me out/pointing me in the right direction! (jon, don't think your help isnt appriciated mate, il repay the favors when you pull your finger with the rst
so for those suggesting earlier in the topic that he doesn't know what he's on about can shut up to be blunt, you neither know nor have seen he's work so comments like that are not needed!
cheers for that bey i needed some vouching
paul cant even be arsed to send me the map anyway so i will be doing it. i only asked him to send it down coz it was for the same spec your running but not happening now
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Originally Posted by rsmark86
dont worry mate as john pointed out earlier they mapp ford stuff in house....

so dont worry mate,

jon has already pointed out that they will be redoing anything done by paul hills
cheers mate and yea were defo looking into wot he has done with the cars hes mapped
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Originally Posted by cjwood555
I wouldn't leave the MR2 to run in on a map that doesn't even idle right. If it's bore washing in those first thousand miles then it'll never be right...

Chris
i know i looked into it today and i knew exactly wot he had done. he adjusted the throttle grub stop screw which i told him to leave alone as it fucks up the tps reading and he just said oh does it then and did it anyway

for anyone whos interested on mr2's you have to set the tps on the bench. youve got toadjust the screw right out and then put a multimeter on the bottom two pins of the tps andget a .5mm feeler in between the screw and the throttle and adjust the screw until you have continuaty (spell) and then get the .7mm feeler and put it in between the screw and throttle and you should have and open circuit so its a very fine tollerence and the ecu takes the reading off of that to control the iscv so thats why it was running high idle

ive also checked the afr and emmissions and all is good thankfully. this mr2 is going to be and animal!!!
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Like I say he IS a very capable man imo, but seems to lack the enthusiasm a lot of the time, which is a real shame.

i know wot you mean i got that feeling too witch is a shame coz as a person hes a really likable cunt!!! thats why i was suprised to hear that when shit hits the fan he reluctant to help out but if he fucks the mr2 ive spend months building ill have his fucking pants down (i dont like the mr2 but im pretty proud of it)
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oh forgot to say thanks again tabetha and peeps backing me up
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tuning japanese near aldershot map the hks
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
oh shit that does look bad!!!
emmmm you have stated that you only build engines... yet you are commenting on how bad a boost map looks??
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Some detective work going on here ^ lol

Surely a simple search would have revealed the stories with paul hills?
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Originally Posted by clarke5700
emmmm you have stated that you only build engines... yet you are commenting on how bad a boost map looks??
i am learning mapping slowly and do sort of know wot im looking at and its an ignition map not boost, dumb dumb
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to be fair he may have mountune in the WRC days on his CV but there were so many other highly skilled people, most now out there in Essex running successful tuning companies by themselves now, there that it would of been easy to ride off of them and to look like you knew what you was doing. With the sort of work load they had during them days i doubt there was much time to be firing and hiring new staff! Plus, with it being such an important partnership, im sure any work done would be checked, double checked and triple checked anyway to avoid any embarrassment to mountune that any mistakes wouldnt have been brought to the public eye
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
i am learning mapping slowly and do sort of know wot im looking at and its an ignition map not boost, dumb dumb
dumb dumb??? lolol you wanna watch the way your swinging that keyboard around snow flake whos teaching you??? paul?? lol
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Those mr2's are animals when tuned up,600hp will be immense!!!my mate has a pheonix yellow one which is 450bhp iirc and he reckoned on a straight road he couldn't see when it was going to stop accelerating,it sounds like a motorbike when it revs!!!!
His went pop quite quickly though but this was due to him ignoring some porosity on the head and that's where it failed.
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Originally Posted by clarke5700
dumb dumb??? lolol you wanna watch the way your swinging that keyboard around snow flake whos teaching you??? paul?? lol
ooh sorry dude only fuckin about dont take it personally and no pauls not teaching me im learning buy the guy who does the maps at scp and just reading up a researching really
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Originally Posted by vaughant
Those mr2's are animals when tuned up,600hp will be immense!!!my mate has a pheonix yellow one which is 450bhp iirc and he reckoned on a straight road he couldn't see when it was going to stop accelerating,it sounds like a motorbike when it revs!!!!
His went pop quite quickly though but this was due to him ignoring some porosity on the head and that's where it failed.
i know wot you mean ive only potterd about in this one and it feels like it wants to take off and it sounds like a jet engine. the mr2 guru ive been speaking to said they pop wheelies and 550bhp!!! and he said with the spec ive built it to if i fitted 1000cc injectors it would run over 800bhp!!! The customer is only 22 and he spun it and smashed up the rear end when it was standard so it might not last long in that way!!!!! we will be at the fast show at santa pod in march testing it if any one wants to see it


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