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Old 04-02-2011 | 10:52 PM
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hi all im a mechanic at southcoast performance and we have paul map our big power cars and they have allways been perfect and never miss a beat and ive watched him at work alot of times and in my opinion his work is staggering. none of our cars have ever had any problems or suddenly blown up he allways does a top job, and he must be good as he maps le mons cars

i was speaking to him the other day when he was mapping the 600bhp mr2 ive built and he was saying how he is not liked very much on PF so i had a little search and all ive seen is people slagging him off and not these horror stories.

people do make mistakes and were all guilty of that. ive done some stupid mistakes in my career they were always put right and didnt cost the owner any extra money, ive mainly made mistakes on my own cars though

all i can say about paul is he is proberly the most inteligent (engine wise) person ive ever met, i mean i thought i knew allot about cars but he makes me look thick sometimes

i just want to know what hes done to piss off so many people

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Old 04-02-2011 | 11:02 PM
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idont wna start!
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If you did the search, then you'd have seen why he's not well regarded here mate?

A lot of his mistakes HAVE cost the owners a lot more cash from what I gather.


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Old 04-02-2011 | 11:25 PM
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He mapped my car i found him a geniune guy he knew what he was talking about but then couldent make out the power first run it made 348 then 350 then 342 he did 3 runs for the graph,2 months down the line it needed setting up again so i went to JOHN NOBLE up in chesterfield did a great job any ways when he mapped it it actaully was shite lol
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Old 04-02-2011 | 11:42 PM
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didnt someone have half of a snap-on toolkit left in there engine (skyline if i remember) as he could hear the engine rattling
Old 05-02-2011 | 12:09 AM
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This has got the makings of a five pager
Old 05-02-2011 | 01:34 AM
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The point is he is fucking clueless, and cost a good friend of mine over 10k with his APPALING workmanship, and failed to put it right. Anything else is pointless to mention, as he is obviously too much of a cunt to admit fault and put it right... Even after all these years he should at least offer some form of apology & some financial compensation to Ian... But if he can live with the guilt & knowledge that he basiclly stole £10,000 then it just shows the type of bloke he is.

Oh, my saff "mapped" by him ( I bought it like it) was running NINE FUCKING NINE %c.o on 803 greens!! No wonder it used to light up like a bunson burner everytime you backed off, and used more oil than fuel!! It must have been borewashing like a bastard!!
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Originally Posted by Fiddy
This has got the makings of a five pager
NAR maybe 10 when the sunday day crew log in
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Do i need to post my fuel map where my injectors were running at 120% duty cycle at 7500rpm??????

Car was so rich low down that when i took it for a pre MOT they had to put the emissions lance by the front bumper for it to be passable.
The car would foul the plugs whilst cruising at 30mph for fooks sake!!!!

Bloke is a joke

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Originally Posted by Gav Diamond
Do i need to post my fuel map where my injectors were running at 120% duty cycle at 7500rpm??????

Car was so rich low down that when i took it for a pre MOT they had to put the emissions lance by the front bumper for it to be passable.
The car would foul the plugs whilst cruising at 30mph for fooks sake!!!!

Bloke is a joke
Oh dear
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Where's Tiff and his Hobnob picture when you need it
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Some horror stories on here about him !

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My favourite story is the copper piping he used for Ian's wastegate.

P.S As said, not liked at all on here.
Old 05-02-2011 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
Where's Tiff and his Hobnob picture when you need it

Taaddaaaaaaaaaa


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i think the skyline pic was that there was a socket left on one of the cam caps that was rattling but, due to it being held in by the rocker cover, it couldn't go anywhere

from what i can remember of the pic anyone, think porkie put it up as it was one of his mate?

may be wrong but it was a while ago

but as for the guy, never met him and can only go with whats been said here so i owuldn't be using him, but then again, i wouldn't call him a cunt if i met him at a show or the like, i couldn't tell him from joe blogs
Old 05-02-2011 | 10:29 AM
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with respect to the OP, you don't sound like you're the best qualified person to be judging his work
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OP = Paul Hills??

As that would be the only person who think his work is good!!
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I am very surprised Ian hasnt posted yet.
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
all i can say about paul is he is proberly the most inteligent (engine wise) person ive ever met,
Simply walk into another tuners with a good rep, then when you've met them and their assistants, teamakers, suppliers, Apprentices and the old guy that cleans the cars you'll have met plenty of folk that know more than Paul Hills
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PMSL - he must be where Peugot went wrong at Le Mans last year then
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cheers for the info pal we can all avoid southcoast perfromance now

talk about ruining a bussiness
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Absolute fucking idiot who charged people through the nose. Wouldn't take my car to him for an oil change.

Took my first Zetec turbo there to be mapped on Omex 600. Car ran like shit after 2 seperate visits there and then found he charged me over £500 for what turned out to be a fucking N/A Zetec map downloaded from the Omex website...FOR FREE.

Took the car to Stu @ MSD in the end, who was horrifed at some of the work. I.e. Sensors missing etc...

If you think Paul Hills knows a lot about cars/engines then:
A) I shudder to think what you know.
B) You clearly haven't had a chat with someone properly educated like Stu/Will/Karl/Mark etc...

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Originally Posted by saph4be
cheers for the info pal we can all avoid southcoast perfromance now

talk about ruining a bussiness


Sadly it's true. All the smart people cut ties with Paul Hills to help their business.
Old 05-02-2011 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by paul16v
I am very surprised Ian hasnt posted yet.
Greetings...I smelt this thread from 200 miles away.....amusement awaits......
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
The point is he is fucking clueless, and cost a good friend of mine over 10k with his APPALING workmanship, and failed to put it right. Anything else is pointless to mention, as he is obviously too much of a cunt to admit fault and put it right... Even after all these years he should at least offer some form of apology & some financial compensation to Ian... But if he can live with the guilt & knowledge that he basiclly stole £10,000 then it just shows the type of bloke he is.

Oh, my saff "mapped" by him ( I bought it like it) was running NINE FUCKING NINE %c.o on 803 greens!! No wonder it used to light up like a bunson burner everytime you backed off, and used more oil than fuel!! It must have been borewashing like a bastard!!
Note to OP...I am the good friend Wil is referring to in his above comment....

Please beware. It is like you are saying that you would trust a reformed serial paedophile to run a youthclub. When we all know, as soon as the parents backs are turned, hes going to have his hand in their kids panties.

You are obviously clearly deluded if you think this clown is good at what he does. He isnt...he's very good at pretending to know what he does.

A little knowledge is dangerous. If you dont know anything he will appear to be a rocket scientist - a total genius to the dumb and innocent. Rockets also blow up, as did a lot of pauls engines. Mine didnt just blow up, it imploded and sucked half of gloucestershire in with it.

Anyway, thank you for informing us of his whereabouts...you have saved us all a lot of expense and grief.

Regards,

Ian

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Originally Posted by SiZT
My favourite story is the copper piping he used for Ian's wastegate.

P.S As said, not liked at all on here.
That'll be my wastegate......yes he used copper tubing to control the wastegate on a 600bhp engine.

Isnt that like a builder using bluetac to build a brick wall?
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ive herd lots of horror stories about him but hes recently mapped my mates r32 while it was at rk tuning. Had a chat with him seems like a nice bloke the cars been spot on since and it made good power
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A good one......took one of my mates there to have Omex fitted and mapped. He was charged a fortune to have a map that was simply downloaded free fr0m the internet. The car had no cold/idle strategy and ran like a bag of excrement.

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Originally Posted by bad boy rs
ive herd lots of horror stories about him but hes recently mapped my mates r32 while it was at rk tuning. Had a chat with him seems like a nice bloke the cars been spot on since and it made good power
One of the lucky ones then. And he does seem like a nice bloke.....until something goes wrong. Then hes very unhelpful.

You have to ask yourselves why he shut down. If he really was that good, he would be thriving like Mark Shead, Andrew Gallagher or Norris Designs etc. Good tuning businesses dont fail.......
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Originally Posted by bad boy rs
lol at the excretement
Lol, well i couldnt think of anything else to compare it with.

Excrement is useful, Paul Hills is not.
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Originally Posted by Ian M500COS
A good one......took one of my mates there to have Omex fitted and mapped. He was charged a fortune to have a map that was simply downloaded free form the internet. The car had no cold/idle strategy and ran like a bag of excrement.
Sounds familiar! Wasn't the first time he'd done it then!
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Originally Posted by Smit
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Further note to OP:

The pic that Smit has kindly displayed is a symbol of the Paul Hills school of commerce and business principals.

He..... on the left in the illustration is lassooing the life out of my poor £20,000-odd engine. Or is he lassooing money from my wallet into his swiss offshore bank account. Or is he just a cowboy that likes to say Yeee Haaa in an Essex field? I am not sure. But one thing is for sure, is that he talks a load of horse shit about his figures and principals. Or is it you take your race horse to him and it comes away wheezing like a mule. All puffing and fucked.

I could go all night. I think i will lol.....
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Originally Posted by Ian M500COS
That'll be my wastegate......yes he used copper tubing to control the wastegate on a 600bhp engine.

Isnt that like a builder using bluetac to build a brick wall?

Have you a pic of this mate cause its unbelievable ?
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Originally Posted by coswurv
Have you a pic of this mate cause its unbelievable ?
I dont unfortunately but somebody on here must have one of it. It was the biggest bodge I have ever seen.
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