Turbosimpsons

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just taken these of my saff, not done many miles

cossie4i+

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Your just a animal lol

Steve

Turbosimpsons

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I think it was tony, when he drove it.

cossie4i+

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Thats it blame someone else lol

Steve

damien roe

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what brand are they

Turbosystems

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no idea
it doesn't matter what brand you use the only brand that is any good for this application are the oe ford ones

xr4x4rs

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only black ones i know of are thise cheap delex ones

i had the orange ones years ago on mine never destroyed them at all, i actuall still ahev the beam as my escos shell is rolling round on it and they havt deteriated in the past 6 years they have been in that beam

agree ford ones are the best but try and find them

poweflex are purple aswell and superflex are blue which is what i have for the escos

Turbosimpsons

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thought thats what everyone else does, on here.

Martin-Hadland

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Do those bushes have any fans??? Lol. The spherical OE ones are the way forward.

AJC

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GGR have got the o/e ford ones re made

Chaz888

Just wondering most of these bushs are urathane any body try the more race spec type nilatron its the gray type stuff if so any good?

dojj

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didn't have any problems with my powerflex ones, but everyone who's fitted the cheaper ones has commented on how shit they are

i suppose you get what you pay for

MK4 CABI

i have powerflex bushes in my escort bottom arm's and there sh#t, they only lasted about 9 month before they started knocking, i should have paid a bit extra and got some new ford bottom arms

tabetha

Superflex come in many more colours than blue.
Superflex have been doing bushes before powerflex were even thought up, superflex, or rather PRO SPORT(which is what they are) originated for use on 4wd in the aussie outback, where a component failure can lead to death being stuck in the wilderness, so they have a awsome track record in probably the harshest environment on this planet.
tabetha

Turbosimpsons

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it appears so. if you read some other threads.

Turbosystems

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my sapph ran ford oe spherical bushes in the rear arms
I also converted the front inner tca bushes from a gpn bush to a spherical oe bearing but not from a ford and made them eccentrically adjustable
rubber bushes and polyurethane bushes are so 80's

Mike1

Was that similar to what Ford trialled on the pre-production 3 doors Tony? They were stung by criticisms of over sensitive steering on the initial press launch and changed the inner TCA pivot and revised the TRW PAS gearing from what I've heard?

Turbosystems

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the early 3 doors had different front geometry to the sapphires
early 3 doors were recalled to have a different front roll bar fitted the H14 which was on all rs5500's and all sapphire 2wd's
The 3 door road car was only a road car for homolagation purposes it was made to win rallies then touring car races in the rs500 guise

Mike1

Yes the front arb change was to give extra castor and more straight line stability .....what I meant was that on the pre-production cars they experimented with a quite different type of inner joint for the TCA. I just wondered if you'd ever seen one somehow and adapted the idea slightly for your own car.
They then trialled a solid nylon/plastic bush I believe but abandoned that as well for a more compliant one.

Turbosystems

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not aware of anything they did pre production
but if they thought a solid nylon bush was the answer my advice would have been to sack that development engineer pronto
I have seen many years ago after market tuners making selling and fitting solid nylon compliance bushes we used to bin them and fit the gpn rubber bush
The inner bush conversion i did is not based on any ford idea development or other wise

Mike1

Ah cheers Tony, yes they mention a nylon/plastic inner TCA bush a few times on the pre-prod cars...but moved away from it ( as well as changing the rack gears ) to de-sensitize the front end

Rsmat

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As stated OE bushes are the best ive used.

Turbosimpsons

iTrader: (3)

6deg beam with rose joints, best iv'e used.

Fudgey

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mine is on deflex iirc, but the thing hasnt really been on the road, and now written off

gonna pull the rear out tho, and give it a beasting, so ill report back in due course

Mike1

What geometry change could you effect with the eccentric adjustment Tony and was it a worthwile mod on reflection?

Is it something you offer nowadays on customer cars?

Turbosystems

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the adjustment was to set the -ve camber which was dependent on wheel size and wheel offset
the other advantage and reason for change is we now have almost zero resistance to radial movement of the tca
surprisingly the cossie runs arubber bush but a series 2 rst runs a spherical jointed arm as std equipment

Mike1

Cheers for the info Tony

I'll have a look at the S2 RST

Turbosystems

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looking at an s2 arm is of no use
I was just commenting that the rst had then but the mighty cossie didn't
the rst is part of the tca

Mike1

So basically less "stiction" than a stiff rubber or poly bush?