Graham S1

OK, not quite CVH's, but they're going 1.6 litre turbo four pot route for 2013.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9255871.stm



I want 21,000 rpm V10's back. Turboed.

focusv8

Don't worry, they'll soon be getting 700bhp out of them..

Woops,, just read all the article and they will be 750 anyway.

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Roosie

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amazing how they still get 700bhp out of a 1600 cvh and i bet it is lagless also

conor.rst

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intresteing. Will be lighter tho

Paulo P

F1 engines in the mid to late 80's were 1.5 litre turbos and in qualifying they were said to be around 1500bhp! I don't know how accurate that figure really was though.

martin24uk

I wonder if they will sound as good as this !!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE13zilzvXE

TimC

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I think its good that theyre going this way. A change was definetly needed imo, especially having the kers function back. Will make mundane races such as Abu Dhabi more interesting as it gives somebody a chance to overtake instead of be stuck behind somebody for 50+ laps

jonny s2

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wait for a topic in rst section D4

Karlos G

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sshhh Jonny!!! He might hear!

s1cab

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just wait for it

Joshy

with a 10k rev limit they wont be super short stroke either lol

SiST

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Just stick a 1.6 ecoboost engine in - job done

Joshy

they say that in laterr years there may be compund charging

Allyc85

So basically its going to be like the Fiesta 1.6T WRC engine with a few more revs and alot more boost?!

k7bhp

Yep back In the day 1400-1500 bhp in qualifing , this is when fuel stops were introduce as the cars could not do full race on one tank

vroooom ptssssh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-qit...eature=related

2.22 - FUCK ME......nice!

Glenn_

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sounds like fun.

pollocks

I think anything that spices it up is good on another forum i go on theres the arguement for bringing back ground effect aero aids with the tracks being some what safer and the fact you can make ground effect aero with a flexible skirt around the car i could see it been alot safer no so i'd be a fan of it coming back

paul0461

hmmm how very interesting. i knew the 1.6 turbo engines where the way forward :P

Toe Knee

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As said the old engines were pushing silly power with turbos on!!

On that note anyone ever see ron dennis's 911 with a tag turbo lump shoved in the back?! Fucking awesome bit of kit!! Saw it at a car show we had at work earlier in the year!! Shame its prob never been on the road

Big Will_

Don't forget, the old 1.5 litre 1500bhp engines ran on some very nasty fuels.

One of which was incredibly carcinogenic

I notice they also said they will restrict fuel delivery, possibly through injector sizes or similar.

Will be good to see a kick into turbocharger development again though

wibbler

Not completely sure I agree with the way all this is going with the standardised 1.6 'motorsport' engine used for just about everything, it's yet another bit of nominal cost saving which makes manufacturers less likely to take part.

I doubt anyone can point at a major championship where standardisation and cost reduction made more of the manufacturers compete.

Still, it should make some pretty serious engines available for reasonable money given the quantities that will be churned out.

Or maybe not, given some people think Ł25K is a reasonable price for a very slightly tweaked production VAG engine for motorsports use...

Mr.T

i miss the V10.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT36kC2pwAc&translated=1 Best V10 sound ever
Or this one. V12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51Ymo...eature=related

This sound is worth global warming

S1

Nah mate, V16 is where it's at!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMPDCNyQxE

Joshy

i just had a crisis

Rich_w

The 1500BHP engines of the 80s only used to last about 4 laps though. Proper grenade spec. When they raced them they detuned them to 5-600BHP or so for a bit of longevity.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niQ26ASiVT4

Personally, I'd have liked the new regs to be 2.0 Litre Turbos. Would have spiced up the hot hatch market no end!

ToeKnee
Rons 911 was a gift. AFAIK it hasn't even seen the road. IIRC it's kept at the storage facility (not at MTC )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tQCXE7DDuc

It's Czech Mate

I think whoever posted that on YouTube will find it's a h16 not a v16

I lied, they did the h16 much later, just the 64 valves

Rsmat

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This is going to get exciting.

JamesH

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You can't beat the sound of the old V10s though

Will be interesting to see what does happen

capri-rs

brake papers from a F1 bmw turbo engine on normal racefuel

Chip

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IF they want to promote economy, they should give TOTAL freedom on engine choice, the rules should simply be that your car must meet the minimum weight and you are only allowed X litres of fuel per race, up to you how fast you make the car just bear in mind that you need the economy as well to last the distance

dug112y

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fuel pressure looks kinda low on that sheet. boost at 3.3bar though....or is that minus atmospheric?

Chip

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If you think the fuel pressure is low check the oil pressure, lol

I doubt any of those sensors were connected to anything meaningful as the fuel pressure cant be lower than the boost pressure or the fuel wouldnt flow

Chip

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190 ftlb of torque at 1.7 bar from a 1.5 litre engine implies to me that the boost figure is an absolute one in that instance, so only 2.3 bar at the top end.

Thats a long way off what the real figures during the race would be

paul0461

thats quite interesting actually

mk7fiesta

talking about 1,6 f1 cars.any one seen the new mini clubman wrc car it looks awesome.

Lambchop

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Will they do 200 mph at brunters?

CossieRich

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Booooooooooost. Beautiful

Rsmat

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Strapped to Rods car yea.

Chip

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VBH couldnt when she tried in an f1 car