Roosie

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My Fiesta Cosworth since ive had it always feels really light/funny when turning the wheel like the wheels are folding underneath the car or the tracking is funny.
Previous owner said it needs some adj tca to make it feel better as there is no camber on the wheels.

but taking a closer look the coloumn were it joins to the rack seems very weird angle.

it comes out of the bulkhead and a say 120degree angle onto a knuckle which goes straight down into a 180 degree angle nearly then to another knuckle which goes back to another 120 degree.

i dont know if this would make it feel funny as im just checking. obviously cant compare it to anyones as its not a run of the mill fiesta lol.
here is a pic and a diagram to show what i mean.

shaun_focus4x4

who did the conversion?
looks like they've put it in the only position it could go

Roosie

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A1 Rallyesport!

theres no doubt unless the steering wheel sits higher the angle will be crap

tabetha

It's far from ideal angle wise, but shouldn't make it feel funny unless there was some binding issues.
tabetha

Roosie

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might just get some adjustable TCA on it and see if the front feels any better

studabear

have you had the tracking checked?

Roosie

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yes mate its spot on.

shaun_focus4x4

dont suppose u could get it any lower due to the chassis rail. just 1 of those things u get when putting something somewhere it doesnt belong

JesseT

When you turn the wheel from lock to lock slowly, does it feel light, heavy, light, heavy... at quarter turns?
If, yes, then the steep angle is causing definately trouble. It looks too steep an angle as the joint is just an universal joint and not a constant velocity one.

fraser9764

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i asked this question a while back when i was looking at doing similar with my mini, and was told if you go to more than a certain angle it will feel odd. I will try and find the thread.

fraser9764

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https://passionford.com/forum/genera...mn-before.html

Roosie

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thanks! same problem.

its not too bad but it could do with tweeking somewere. back to drawing board

caprizetec170

Angle is way to much on uj's that and the two on middle shaft should be at 90 degrees to each other

MK MOTORSPORT

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it needs more camber ,shocks are to vertical need to be laid back more ,need to alter top of shocks turn alloy pates back or get adjustable comp struts and move tcas forward ,its never going to be perfect coz with a shorter wheel base the ackerman has altered ,you could alter the steering arms to compensate

Roosie

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by what your saying mark it need more camber and caster!

MK MOTORSPORT

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sorry mate its caster not camber ,it feels like under steer like your pushing the front in corners ,its the same when we did the set up in world super bikes ,if we raised the rear to much it made the forks to steep and pushed the front and made it feel vague ,coz the front forks were to steep ,same with struts coz of the room with arches etc you might have to push tcas forward and bring srut tops back to get it right as it can be .but it will never be perfect because the wheel base is shorter ,it was only built as a bit of fun why dont you just leave it as it instead of trying to turn it into somthing it will never be,unless you are prepared to have new uprights made with different steering arms etc made,you need to realise that these conversations are a compomise because you are putting suspension in cars that are shorter so all the geometry that was built in, is out the window

caprizetec170

still think a lot of it to do with angle of steering but ya could try more caster and some camber could meke huge difference withut spending much. do you have a rear mounted rollbar or compression struts. cant imagins someone going bother of building somethng like this and not checking geometry

STAFFY OWNER

Without wishing to hijack this thread but on the same subject, can anyone shed any light on my steering problem? When i lock round fairly hard either going forwards or reversing (such as entering a tight parking space) my car feels as if it suddenly slips across to the side. The closest thing i can compare the feeling to is like your front wheels are sitting on round pebbles and then as you turn, the wheels slide off the pebbles and the car seems to hop to the side. My thoughts are that it could be ball joints but to be honest, how cold it is at the moment i can't be arsed to crawl under the car to have a look. Any other suggestions what to look at when i build up the enthusiasm. By the way the car is a 1998 2.0 Mondeo Si.