vaughant

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Mr2 mk2?easily under a grand for an earlier model,may get a 173bhp model,bombproof reliability,go for a rev2 or get the handling sorted on the earlier car and your onto a winner.tons of spares out there,not French,will be better to launch on the hillclimb due to the weight over the rear and look pretty good as well.

Don't rust much either.

You could perhaps squeeze a turbo into your budget but it could be a nail for that money.

Guy I know had a k plate one and he struggled to get £650 for it,t&t as well with not much wrong,only cosmetic stuff.

vaughant

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Here you go kid,I typed in mr2 up to £800 and it came up with 4 pages of them!!!there was a turbo just sold for £600 that needed a few jobs but I thought this looked good?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2234808.htm

Can't really go wrong at that price.being jap,they come with loads of leccy goodies you could strip out to save weight and I believe that engine is pretty tuneable.

EDIT: just thought,about the 2.0l capacity,try a mk1 mr2 instead maybe,1.6 16v and very tuneable.

siddleg

ever concidered a puma you can pick them up for a grand and parts are cheap easy to tune

massivewangers

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Puma could be a good choice. Cheap to buy, and quite pokey. Good chassis too.

Outside that, as someone said above; look at the class you'll be in, look at the cars that are winning events in that class, and go for one of them.

If you're going up against 106s etc, I wouldn't be looking at a ZX or anything like that. Yes you can strip it out, but the 106s will always be lighter than you, so you're at a disadvantage. I'd want the lightest car I could possibly be running safely. A 1.06 GTI/Saxo VTS is probably a good choice. Can buy them cheap, they weight fuck all and parts are pretty cheap, not to mention plentiful.

Chip

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puma is just a heavier fiesta isnt it? what advantage does it give over the fiesta that is sufficient to offset the weight?

anyway they are nowhere near a clio, even my bog standard 1.8 clio mk1 that owed me 500 quid when I first got it can wipe the floor with a puma, it dry humped neil from fast ford's puma around combe and it wasnt cause he wasnt trying either!

crumpet

its a very differcult one, pumas are v bad even frp's. Mr2's are very twitchy to drive, 3sgte engines are expensive and can be unreliable, back ends come out and its hard to bring them bck in because of the weight, I Dont know as of yet what would be right, ive got till march anyway till events start.

Shenstone and district car club will be the club il join.

crumpet

i wont get a zx 16v pal as theyre so rare, will be the 1.9 bosch pumped turbo diesel, i might just get one and prove what they can do, cheers for the replys and ideas tho guys

Ratty

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An alternative is VVC powered Metro, individualised suspension and some stoppers

jammerrs

go for the zx and show what it can do, may as well, sounds like youve got alot of experience and parts for them

will you not need harnesses and a rollcage etc for the class your going in?

do you have to be a certain age to do hill climbing as you say you dont need a road license........?

crumpet

can be 16 maybe younger, i was 16 when i first went round, no problems at all, dont need harnesses and a cage either as theres different classes

Chip

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Metro is a good call, they handle well and those 1.8 K series have some potential too if you can keep the head gasket in one piece.

crumpet

What do you lot think about this??

Got the shit dturbo gearbox, 25psi on a t2 turbo with front mount

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gPMx7ORUQU

Spiky

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i know someone who got a 205 gti to 680kgs,

how about a nova? arent they pretty light?

jammerrs

thanks

what do you have to do/spend to get a license?

Chip

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Nova's are great from a weight perspective but are harder to get to handle well compared to a 205 or a clio.

also rust free novas are starting to get pricey

crumpet

i had a c20seh nova saloon and tbf i wouldnt have one again, due to the fact im not confortable in one and thesteering coloum position i dont like, or the fact they rust just about everywhere, but some c20xe' converted ones ( rare to find a decent one) do go well!

Jammers i think last time it was £80, you dont need to take a driving course either, just fill out a form, need to take a pisture of your self, need to say what category you want to apply for and sent it to the MSA, youl have a reply back qith in 2 weeks usually, Then you need to join a club who will send you information where sprints and hillclimbs are being held.

I wonder if i can do track days or santa pod with a Msa license

Here is info you need

http://www.msauk.org/site/cms/conten...sp?article=771

Neil@FastFord

it RR'd at something wank like 108bhp when at Mtec and had full interior, standard everything bar some tyres. It was shite!

You was stripped and caged, bigger discs.

Puma's are ok, mine was better in the end but was rotten as a pear. They get eaten big time.

crumpet

neil can i buy your very reliable fiesta off you for £1500?

Neil@FastFord

The red one....right now you can...it's a shell

Martin-Hadland

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Rover 100, fit Gti ARB's, poly bushes and a 160hp vvc motor, job jobbed!

massivewangers

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More power than the Fiesta. 1.7 Puma is quicker than any Fiesta you'd get for the money. Revvy, willing and handle well, so worth a look for the money I think. Perhaps not the best car out there, but I think they're good for the money.

My missus had one for a while and it was really fun in standard form, so I'm sure with a few tweeks it could be quite a capable little car.

Derby_Gav

What gearbox do you run on that? From what i can remember the r65 box doesn't like loads of power being put through it.

Gavin.

Martin-Hadland

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The R65 box can't take it, that's why I did the job properly and fitted an LSD PG1!

focusrrx87

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/fwd.asp?sort=Make

have a look on here just click on how you wanna arrange them bhp/ton ect

swift gti has better power to weight than the 106/vts
206 gti can pick them up cheap, 202nm of torque and 140bhp around 1050kg

jammerrs

crumpet - cheers mate

Martin - Reyland - how much did it cost to get the rover to that stage and what did you use it for?

crumpet

my mate who passed away had a 206 gti, was alot slower than a civic vti, real nice to drive though, Ive owned a cammed swift gti before that used to rev to 8700, rust everywhere though

theres a really nice metro with a 1.8 vvc engine in it on ebay atm!

Martin-Hadland

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Probably cost me about 3k at the time but Rover 100's and VVC engines are barmy cheap now. I used it for track days...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4xW01kAY2U

focusrrx87

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-VTS-TRACK...item20b574f5e4

give this a watch, no reseve, 140bhp, big brakes ect

Derby_Gav

Im taking it you have got custom driveshafts? I can always remember the metro boys from years ago having issues with driveshafts and the pg1 conversion.

I would love to stick a 1800 k series in a poverty spec metro!

Gavin.

Martin-Hadland

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No need for custom shafts, MGF ones fit.

jammerrs

i was sat watching it thinking.........he didnt say anyting about it being turbo'd.............then at about 2 minutes when the bloke says that metros rapid i realised the camera wasnt on the metro

does go bloody well

Martin-Hadland

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I was going to swap that engine for a 20v VAG turbo lump but half way through trail fitting the new engine into a scrap metro I bought an ex works MG ZR race car and sadly the orange car got sold on.









Someone needs to do one of those!!

Chip

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No cage, still on standard suspension with 10 quid springs back then and standard disks too.

you are confusing how it is now (although still not caged) with how it was at the time.

was a 1.8 still as well, as that was before I swapped the engine over.

rs-tuner

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The way it holds a line is awesome

crumpet

Martin were you born in longbridge?

rs-tuner

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Says app on it

vaughant

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Forgot about this!!looks cheap as well,quite fancied it myself but missed the boat a bit as he needed a 5dr but had sadly found one.it's been on a while as well,body looks rough but it's cheap.their pretty quick too!!

http://retrorides.proboards.com/inde...d=90436&page=1

Only 1600cc as well.

phil_rs

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A friend of mine bought a white 5 door with a k series lump. It was completely standard to look at and still had the steelies and wheel trims! Also was standard ride height and 1.1 pee shooter exhaust Went REALLY well but didn't like stopping or going round corners for some strange reason! He managed to upset a civic type r driver in a straight line with it lol!

wirralphil

https://passionford.com/forum/cars-f...vts-850-a.html

Cheap capable car.

zippyobrien

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Sorry but that's bollocks. Got my zetec s for 700 standard with a panel filter it put out 109 bhp and was quicker than a 1.7 puma. I don't think it got any quicker after I put my puma lump in either.

I'd go 1o6 or clio as mentioned. Both weak geatboxs tho