somalian pirates release hostages
14-11-2010, 09:04 PM
#1
somalian pirates release hostages
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11754357
not too sure what's happened, but they are free and alive, so well done to whoever rescued them
not too sure what's happened, but they are free and alive, so well done to whoever rescued them
14-11-2010, 09:30 PM
#2
Fantastic news! It looks like some sort of ransom was paid! I don't think we'll ever find out the truth, as they don't want to give the 'pirates' any reason to do it again.
Apparently the couple got an injunction to prevent the press reporting on the story as it was negatively influencing the pirates!
They'll either slip back into obscurity, or there will be a million and one documentaries on it!
Either way it's good that they're free. Must have been an unimaginably tough year, even more so when they were separated for three months!
Apparently the couple got an injunction to prevent the press reporting on the story as it was negatively influencing the pirates!
They'll either slip back into obscurity, or there will be a million and one documentaries on it!
Either way it's good that they're free. Must have been an unimaginably tough year, even more so when they were separated for three months!
14-11-2010, 09:42 PM
#4
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wankers, the pirates that is what the fuck will they spend the ransom on? They live in a shit hole, not like they can pop into dixons and buy a 60" 3D tv 
Was just on the itv news tho, details of all the cash paid
Was just on the itv news tho, details of all the cash paid
14-11-2010, 10:19 PM
#6
good news they are out. Although i firmly believe in the ethos of not negotiating with terrorists/hostage takers and never paying a ransom.
they only do it because they know people pay up eventually. If everyone took a hard line stance then all they could do is steal the ships and kill the crew and the average somalian pirate is just a poor fisherman and has no means of selling on a large container ship
they only do it because they know people pay up eventually. If everyone took a hard line stance then all they could do is steal the ships and kill the crew and the average somalian pirate is just a poor fisherman and has no means of selling on a large container ship
14-11-2010, 11:48 PM
#7
It's good that they've been freed, but I was always a bit on the fence with this story to be honest.
Obviously it was a horrible ordeal for them both, but weren't they warned not to go to the area that they went to, as it's known for high levels of pirate activity?
Kind of only lets me have so much sympathy for them to be honest. Might sound a bit harsh, but there's plenty of other places to go sailing about. That's like being told there's 20 sharks off the beach and then going for a swim anyway
Obviously it was a horrible ordeal for them both, but weren't they warned not to go to the area that they went to, as it's known for high levels of pirate activity?
Kind of only lets me have so much sympathy for them to be honest. Might sound a bit harsh, but there's plenty of other places to go sailing about. That's like being told there's 20 sharks off the beach and then going for a swim anyway
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15-11-2010, 06:14 AM
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It's good that they've been freed, but I was always a bit on the fence with this story to be honest.
Obviously it was a horrible ordeal for them both, but weren't they warned not to go to the area that they went to, as it's known for high levels of pirate activity?
Kind of only lets me have so much sympathy for them to be honest. Might sound a bit harsh, but there's plenty of other places to go sailing about. That's like being told there's 20 sharks off the beach and then going for a swim anyway
Obviously it was a horrible ordeal for them both, but weren't they warned not to go to the area that they went to, as it's known for high levels of pirate activity?
Kind of only lets me have so much sympathy for them to be honest. Might sound a bit harsh, but there's plenty of other places to go sailing about. That's like being told there's 20 sharks off the beach and then going for a swim anyway
15-11-2010, 07:19 AM
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It's good that they've been freed, but I was always a bit on the fence with this story to be honest.
Obviously it was a horrible ordeal for them both, but weren't they warned not to go to the area that they went to, as it's known for high levels of pirate activity?
Kind of only lets me have so much sympathy for them to be honest. Might sound a bit harsh, but there's plenty of other places to go sailing about. That's like being told there's 20 sharks off the beach and then going for a swim anyway
Obviously it was a horrible ordeal for them both, but weren't they warned not to go to the area that they went to, as it's known for high levels of pirate activity?
Kind of only lets me have so much sympathy for them to be honest. Might sound a bit harsh, but there's plenty of other places to go sailing about. That's like being told there's 20 sharks off the beach and then going for a swim anyway
Pirates are now operating over 500miles from shore!! Skiffs with 10 somlians in it have taken over 60,000tonne tankers that have upto 20m drafts! They ain't stupid.
If the Merchant Navy fleet were armed it may put the pirates off but the last thing we need is gunfights at sea, things would get out of control.
In most cases, not all, the pirates look after the captured people very well, apparently they are actually building HOTELS!! to put them in, keep them fresh and healthy so that a ransom is paid by the company they work for or the government etc.... They are proper gangsters working with big money, not idiots by any stretch of the imagination.
The Royal Navy have ships stationed in high risk areas but even they they can be over 100miles away when they get a distress call, by the time they get there the chances are the pirates will have control.
http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?opt...map&Itemid=219
Quite an interesting map of actual pirate attacks/attempts.
15-11-2010, 11:01 AM
#12
The goverment could have paid a ransom i reckon but we will never find out the truith , how many hoatages were held in baghdad at the time with a ransome of letting terrorists go & the goverment never gave in leading to beheadings of the likes of ken bigley & others! if the goverment was seen to be paying a ransome for they ppl & not releasing terrorists leading to beheadings it would kick up a heavy stink.
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15-11-2010, 11:28 AM
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Pirates are now operating over 500miles from shore!! Skiffs with 10 somlians in it have taken over 60,000tonne tankers that have upto 20m drafts! They ain't stupid.
If the Merchant Navy fleet were armed it may put the pirates off but the last thing we need is gunfights at sea, things would get out of control.
In most cases, not all, the pirates look after the captured people very well, apparently they are actually building HOTELS!! to put them in, keep them fresh and healthy so that a ransom is paid by the company they work for or the government etc.... They are proper gangsters working with big money, not idiots by any stretch of the imagination.
The Royal Navy have ships stationed in high risk areas but even they they can be over 100miles away when they get a distress call, by the time they get there the chances are the pirates will have control.
http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?opt...map&Itemid=219
Quite an interesting map of actual pirate attacks/attempts.
If the Merchant Navy fleet were armed it may put the pirates off but the last thing we need is gunfights at sea, things would get out of control.
In most cases, not all, the pirates look after the captured people very well, apparently they are actually building HOTELS!! to put them in, keep them fresh and healthy so that a ransom is paid by the company they work for or the government etc.... They are proper gangsters working with big money, not idiots by any stretch of the imagination.
The Royal Navy have ships stationed in high risk areas but even they they can be over 100miles away when they get a distress call, by the time they get there the chances are the pirates will have control.
http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?opt...map&Itemid=219
Quite an interesting map of actual pirate attacks/attempts.
15-11-2010, 12:00 PM
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15-11-2010, 02:09 PM
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The merchant navy fleet wouldnt be merchant navy if they were armed would have all sorts of political implications.
what would be a good idea would be armed security teams (be it merc or armed forces) on the ships while they transit through high risk areas.
Its far cheaper to do that than to have enough warships in the area to provide an effective response, especially when you consider how big an area they operate over now.
But again it has implications under international law to have armed security forces on a merchant ship. It is doable though and far more doable than having merchant ships with deck guns and the crews being trained to repel pirates with small arms. Most merchant ships wouldnt have got the guns out the lockers by the time they have been attacked A bridge look out is not designed to be for security and for a low RCS unlit gofast target you are unlikely to see it before its too late. Thats where a dedicated security force keeping their own security watch on deck would be more effective.
would have all sorts of political implications.what would be a good idea would be armed security teams (be it merc or armed forces) on the ships while they transit through high risk areas.
Its far cheaper to do that than to have enough warships in the area to provide an effective response, especially when you consider how big an area they operate over now.
But again it has implications under international law to have armed security forces on a merchant ship. It is doable though and far more doable than having merchant ships with deck guns and the crews being trained to repel pirates with small arms. Most merchant ships wouldnt have got the guns out the lockers by the time they have been attacked
A bridge look out is not designed to be for security and for a low RCS unlit gofast target you are unlikely to see it before its too late. Thats where a dedicated security force keeping their own security watch on deck would be more effective.
15-11-2010, 08:58 PM
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Its strange, you are not allowed to transfer commission or be promoted in the last year of service and i had 2 1/2 years left so in effect only just over a year at sea in which to get recommendation for transfer which is virtually impossible to get the recommend and have enough time to actually get the transfer in such a short time. annoying really as i wanted to at least try but in the end the career managers and docs agreed it would not be in my best interests! oh well.
damn, im rambling. turning into dojj
shame most of them would get wasted really quick when they soon find out being all mouth gets them no where when they are up against the AK47 and RPG!
second thoughts.... lets do it and kill 2 birds with one stone
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