xr4x4rs

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stu you got an email i can contact you on?

Stu @ M Developments

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It is indeed expensive, however, don forget with aftermarket you still need to pay to get it mapped and it VERY rarely runs as well as the OE kit with a decent cal.

Its much cheaper for existing customers to upgrade to of course, as you can see:

http://www.motorsport-developments.c...ecu_chips.html

Stu @ M Developments

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of course mate. sales@remapping.co.uk

JamesH

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Appreciated Stu, but of course you have to take in distance to account, and being 100% confident if KNOWING it's been fully mapped/setup and will be 100% safe.

Also then when aftermarket more people can map it, rather than having locked chips etc

You can also sell off your OEM gear to offset the cost.

I've been told mine will run perfectly, but I must admit my cold start before was lovely!

gingeRS

Stu how long before this is availble for my FRS?

she's been retuired to weekends now, and antilag with launch control could make the sunday drives epic

Stu @ M Developments

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Totally agree, its always swings and roundabouts. As long as you get the end result that you want, with best future possibilities that suit your budget and expertise, at the best overall price then thats all that matters mate.

JamesH

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anglia105e hinson

His mk3 escort has what 600+ and 4x4 would launch control really be beneficial ? ????????
Anti lag Would be though and he has got it ain't he.

Is a marram shafted turbo a must for anti lag or can you run it mild without one stu?

ajamesc

Mine runs spot on with autronics not a fault with it!

Tev

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you are gay

Eigdoog

I did also hear they can brake the turbos alot faster but seeing what they can do and hearing them i think ill get one when i get it tuned

RWD_cossie_wil

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Launch at 850Rpm ...

James, I have a 247 shafted T4, will your ALS work ok with a mountune tophat bypass valve? I seem to remmeber Stu didn't like the tophat due to the idle issues, but i'm not too fussed as long as it will give good effect?

BRAMMER

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Well that's an excellent service i was unaware

pm sent

Stu @ M Developments

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It certainly helps, having two bar of boost when you lift the clutch instead of having to wait for a massive turbo to get its breath can help a lot.

Standard turbos tend to be fine if the ALS is only used sparringly in road conditions, they will not take competition abuse of constant ALS.


Yes it works fine mate.


Replied, I have now made that service clearer on my website as I guess you guys dont actually have crystal balls.

R4N SS

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700 for a chip

i'd go aftermarket management and you will have a brand new ecu and loom with all the functions you require for less than that.

Omex 600 for example is 600 quid

xr4x4rs

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thats ok if you want to go aftermarkt management, but then theres mapping ontop which is 500 notes, plus having the loommodfied to suit your engine which is more so after market management costs a hell of a lot more than cossie management with all the extras fitted to it, plus im trying to keep it all cossie stuff as all this stuff will be transfered over to the escos when it needs its engine

R4N SS

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you can buy the loom already done to suit your needs - sell your existing OE stuff to fund the extra.

Mapping will be required and it will more than likely be a live map which is way better than any off the shelf chip.

As for mapping costing 500 quid - it all depends who you know

R4N SS

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to add - im looking to have these features on my track car but dont fany paying 700 for a chip that still uses an ancient ECU.

For example - my uncut 3dr engine loom will sell for more than what an Omex loom will cost all built up.

xr4x4rs

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i can see what your saying, but i dont want after market management, as if something goes wrong down the line i have to take it back to the person who fitted it and mapped it, at east with cossie stuff 90% of the time people can fix problems with when its ecu related, and if the ecu goes down then its easily to get anbother to get you back on the road quicker, i know its unlikely for a new ecu to go down but it does happen

im quite happy to stick with l8 for the time being

JamesH

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If you take it to someone who knows what they're doing, then use management they like, you won't go wrong. New ECU's come with something called warranty too

xr4x4rs

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yeah thats true, but then the car will have to be towed to them, ecu sent off before any warranty claims etc, id rather just come on here or ebay and buy another l8 couple of days later i have my car up and running again

R4N SS

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i reckon more people map aftermarket management than Weber Marelli

as said by James - you will have a warranty too

but its your car, your money and ultimately your choice - best of luck in whatever you decide.

xr4x4rs

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true but after market managemnt still works out more expensive than going what i want even if have mine live maped with the new chip it works out cheaper than going after market

R4N SS

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not if you sell your OE setup - it will be cheaper.

JamesH

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It's more expensive because it is BETTER, and easier to find a good mapper closer to you (as Ran said, not map can map Weber)

£700 for a chip is a lot of money, if it bothers you that much to stay with the L8 then wait until December

R4N SS

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does that 700 quid include live mapping?

is that 700 just for the chip?

JamesH

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Chip = £700. Live map = £500

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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Didnt your engine blow up on one of these set ups though james????




cheers danny

JamesH

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Yes Danny, it did. Detonation melted an exhaust valve and done quite bad damage to a piston.

I've spoken to Stu about this and we don't agree, so I chose not to bother responding to his last email, as I could see I wasn't going to get anywhere.

I know the engine was absolutely spot on before the chip change (12,000 miles), and only lasted a few hundred miles afterwards.

Anyway, you live and learn and we will never agree, so don't see the point in dragging it up. I've moved on and will choose who gets their hands on my car very carefully in the future.

James @ M Developments.

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who set it up? and checked all was well before any hard use?

JamesH

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I had a wideband in the car, which if anything showed it was rich

Looking back I'm glad it happened, as I will have a far superior car in every aspect once complete

I won't say anymore as I've already said what happened, and wasn't even going to bring it up on here

James @ M Developments.

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all off the shelf chips require a pro set up and check over, i dont really see how any one can be blamed apart the person who declaired your car safe for hard use tbh,

we would always be more than happy to tweek chips where its needed, sadly if we didnt see the car, there isnt much we can do.

did your wideband have a knock detector? and was calibrated? our wideband kit cost over £6k for good reason.

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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Sorry to bring that up james didnt mean to cause a stir!!!


cheers danny

Stu @ M Developments

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R4N SS

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Thats 1200 quid

Think i'll stick with aftermarket management

xr4x4rs

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ok so afermarket management £600, then mapping 500 then to have it fitted 300-400 maybe?

works out a bit more than std stuff a level 8 can do

Sonic Boom

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I wished i had spoken to Martin before I got my wasted spark and new loom made as I really should have gone for T6 then you get all the extras included in the ECU.
I really can't afford it now, but i'm pretty sure it'll go that way eventually.
Rich

graham c

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hmmmm i do fancy launch control? how long will my diffs and box last

BIG WULL

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i sooo want als

rs tingle

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so how much would ya say my old 3dr cosworth loom is worth has been cut but not much i dont think