ford addict

hello all
i was on the lookout for a 2litre zetec engine and i found one which is really cheap(somthing very strange in malta)as everything is bloody expensive.can anyone tell me how to recognize a 2 litre from a 1.8 as i don t want to be fooled.thanks to all

rs220bhp

Will have 20 on the block at the front and a 1.8 will have 18

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

It will be stamped on the side of the block mate

ford addict

ok guys thanks for your answers.if i had to fit jenvey throttle bodies and mild cams what figures will i be looking at?

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Dunnell guarantee 178bhp-185bhp for a 2.0 Zetec with throttle bodies and cams with no other mods. But they have pretty shit hot maps/cams etc... And depends if it's a blacktop or silvertop.

Markb_s1

interesting... my old one was 172 just with some 45 dcoes stuck on the side and no cams....

ford addict

fuck me 185 bhp would be great.i was looking to achieve at least 160 bhp as the car is fully stripped(its a mk2 fiesta)so i was looking for an engine which is reliable and at the same time fun to give some hard time to some jap crap on the road.regarding suspension and brakes what do you lot thinks is best as i have a very hard right foot and keep on going in corners to the last bit?

Mk1-stu

a good airbag ?

ford addict

maybe i need one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan_3

goodluck mate will be a weapon, as you said will teach some jap crap a lesson or two

ford addict

i hope so mate.the only fuck up is that we can only have fun illegaly on the streets since we have no tracks available.

Ryan_3

yeah yoru right, were restricted in every way possible!

ford addict

was thinking of doing the engine on a mk2 escort 4 door but since the fiesta is sitting in the garage might aswell build it up.don t want to buy a 3door by any chance!!!!!!

Ryan_3

haha If I had the money mate!

chaffe

The 2 litre has 20 cast on the front of the block above the breather. IMO cams, throttle bodies etc is an expensive way of not getting much more power. Say it costs you 500 for the cams, 800 for the ecu and bodys and then another 200 to get it mapped (1500 quid) and you get 185 bhp over the standard 130, thats £27 per bhp. A low boost turbo would give you the same horse power MORE reliably and also you would get more torque lower down, and not have any of the fuel consumption and drivability problems you get from lumpy cams. A focus rs exhaust manifold, second hand t25 turbo (saab, volvo, nissan) frs downpipe and MS or similar ecu and some bigger injectors would cost less than a grand, and would comfortably make 185 bhp on a std engine reliably at around 7 psi of boost. But then im blinded by the dark side.

chaffe

If you wanted to keep it NA, because the technicalitys of the turbo conversion, consider motorbike carbs. As these do not require a high pressure fuel pump and tank, no ecu is required and cost is low at around a hundred quid. I would use Fords red edis "hybrid" module, these are quite rare but come up on ebay from time to time for around the 75 pound mark. If you get one of these it requires only a live and earth to run spark on your engine, has a built in manifold pressure sensor and ignition map. 160 bhp would be achievable for a cost of only £5.80 per BHP.

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

I agree with Chaffe!

ford addict

chaffe strictly speaking i was going to go the turbo route first but i was finding it to be a very expensive one and so i decided on throttle bodies and maybe cams(in my opinion its more reliable),and for our roads which are very short distances i was of the idea of having no turbo lag at all

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

He needs a full cage and buckets/harnesses by the sounds of things

ford addict

i do have a cage and buckets/harnesses but no engine for the time being

chaffe

with cams, headwork and higher compression you will have no lag, but you will have a lumpy, inefficeint gutless car below 4k anyway! and reving a car past 7k with NA mods is proven to be more unreliable at the SAME power turbo charged. With a t25 turbo, or a kkk off of a vw, you will have little or no lag and torquey power all the way from 2k upwards, with no loss of drivability or fuel economy at cruising speeds. you could turbo it for less than a grand, ive done it several times.

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

Get it mapped by a respectable tuner and you won't...

ford addict

i really got confused now but i am liking the idea of the bike carbs as for the time being i can have a drivable car then if funds are good i can remove them and hopfully turbocharge it and i have never seen one done here in malta.i must admit i had no intension of spending money on the fez as if i manage to sell the 3 door i start looking for a mint low milage escos to make company to my 500(genuine 10900miles)but i cant stand the idea of having a car with no engine in the garage when i can have some fun in it,as the others i never use them so i need somthing to thrash!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan_3

really looking forward to see progress on the fez mate. Not to be nosey, but did you advertise the 3 door on maltese sites? it really helps

ford addict

no mate i did not advertise it and the few people who have come to view it were just bullshit artists as they really had no cash at all.as for the fez when i finish restoring the lambretta for my girlfriend i ll start immediately on it and get it ready as soon as possible.you can come over whenever you want and maybe lend a hand !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan_3

yeah, had so many bullshitters aswell when I was selling parts. Would love to help man just drop me a pm whenever you want!

ford addict

everyone want everything for peanuts and i have no intension of getting rid of it for a silly ammont of money.its in good condition and one of only 6 on the isalnd so one either is prepared to pay for it or else go and but somthing within his/her budget

ford addict

chaffe is the module you are telling me about from an escort or fez as i have one part no.89fb12a297-ga or its not good?thanks for all your help