dave cos4x4

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you do get people wanting a standard car and then getting 'i need a bit more' lol, then start modding it.

better getting one with decent,sensible mods done to it already, save you a lot of money.

Stu.H

Its on my list of cars to get, With a manifold change and a remap I can get similar power with what I had with my RS Turbo. 270bhp/325ft/lb of torque.

Something Im thinking about........

SteveB

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When I 1st got my car all it had was a remap (14psi) and a sports cat..... It was as quick as a stg1 Escort Cossie (small turbo) and full stainless with no cats running about 300bhp. Now I have a GT28, decat, manifold and 22psi held until the limiter in 5th..... it is now seriously quick in comparison and around the 330ish bhp maybe slightly more, comparing it to 1 of my old stg3 saffs it would kill it. The best bit is you arn't waiting for the next bit to fall off....lol


Steve

Rs(555)

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As above ! Stage 3 cossies are not quick at all by modern day standards
a 300bhp frs would eat one no probs
I have a frs 438 bhp and over 460 lbs torque
not as fast as my old 500bhp 3 door top end
but better in every other way ! And believe me I have abused both of them
and tried one car against another

Staffi

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Now i bet that's lively?? 460ft/lb..

Do the Standard Gearboxes cope with that then??

R4N SS

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Nath - 3dr Cossie all the way would be choice - but them i am biased lol

didnt know you had an escos - time to meet up methinks

Lambchop

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I sold my FRS recently. I spoke to Dingy yesterday who'd been at Donno with the new owner. Now we all know how much of a RWD man he is and is used to high powered cars but he said he loved it and it was great fun.

Too many people have no idea just how good they are!

I just fancied a change tbh but there really was no need to sell!

Staffi

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The BLINKERED people you mean Chop

R4N SS

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Im sure a FRS is nice and a great drive but for me it would have to be RWD just for hooligan factor - especially if its a toy/weekend car

Dunccoss

A 300 bhp focus mk1 is a very quick car when drivern right on track and will keep up with most cars and pass them, i had one and tracked mine for years it didnt have much done to it and was great fun and if you want to see some videos of it on track then go look on youtube under "dunccoss" in the focus RS section

cheers
dunc

Lambchop

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Correct


So you'd have the more unreliable old shitter?

You have no idea how good it is starting an RS on the button first time EVERY time

retro d

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I would like to try the FRS on road, im not sure on the fwd tho as rwd is more fun plus I drive a stg3 everyday and love it.

gingeRS

unless you have less than a quarter of a tank of fuel

Lambchop

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Eh?!?

Yours wont start below a quarter?

I NEVER had any issue at any fuel level right down to the light!

SteveB

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And me..... Mine has no issues at all even when the "fill me ya bastid" yellow lights on...



Steve

massivewangers

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What

How is a car with 330bhp that weighs about 1200kg 'not quick'?

Admittedly they don't drive as well as a new car, or handle anything like as well, but come on...

Not owned either, but I think for me, as it's just going to be an occasional car, I'd go down the Cosworth route. Bit more raw and aggressive. Who needs refinement and things for a toy, just get a lairy 3dr

RS500/364

Frs
want rid of the saff and mondeo just enough for one !

Drunken Master

The Focus!! People stopped wanking over cossies 20 years ago.

That's why it's mostly 40+ year olds that drive them!

stevenebm

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gota admit i do love the focus rs.such a usable car.wish i hadnt bought one so clean as i dont like using it.done less than 1k in a year.infact ive gota go get a new battery for it

Bodge22

It's gotta be the focus, if you want something that you know will start every time you wanna drive it! I've got my frs up for sale but i'm seriously thinking of taking it down and keeping it till i can afford to insure it again. I'm running 320bhp and it's a joy to drive round town but it's got the kick in the pants when you wanna give it some, even my mrs likes driving it!

RichieST

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Mate of mine kept killing batteries due to lack of use, he bought one of those solar panel things that clip on to the battery, run it out the top of the garage door, never had a problem since!

Sticky.

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I didn't know he had one Dave, I'll speak to him when i get back off holiday.

SteveB

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Trust me I have had 2wd Cossie's from from stg1 (270bhp) up to about 400bhp and now a 330ish bhp Focus and would NEVER go back to a Cossie of any sort. Out of the box look at the parts fitted to a Focus.... AP, Brembo, Sparco, Quaife.....


Steve

stevenebm

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i have got a battery conditioner from classic additions but i forgot to switch it onwent back two months later and the battery is completly goosed.wont even charge.new one tommorow.its just so i can open the car as its locked just now.

Rs(555)

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a stage 3 cossie is fun ,and lively ..but not quick imo
ive owned plenty of them over the years
i love them too bits ,but frs is the way forward lol

Rs(555)

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its just had a second hand box fitted not long back so time will tell\

the torque is awsome mate

ps your 3 door looks

gingeRS

not fit to comment then

having owned both the FRS is a better car but theres something special about a YB

now a YB engined FRS with RWD would be cool....but its gonna have a sierra floor pan.......

Retro Al

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Its up to you,cossie all day long for me,theres something about them that a focus rs does not have,each to there own

5hane

3 door if its just a toy,


FRS if it a daily

massivewangers

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I see the reasoning, but my point still stands. I think the Cossie is just a bit more 'special', and as it's only a weekend car, that would be my leaning. I don't doubt that the Focus is more technically advanced, but that isn't the be-all and end-all in my eyes

Perhaps you've been around this scene too long then? There is no way that a car with 330bhp that weights that is 'slow', that's madness. A boggo Ford Ka is slow, or a 1.2 Corsa. No saloon car with 300+bhp can be described as slow, that's more power than a current BTCC car for God's sake

Just as fit as those who have only owned one so don't have a balanced opinion

Glenn_

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If you want a modern car get the focus. If you want a retro car get the cossie. I dont know why people say they are shite for. Mine starts first time every morning. Its never misses a beat.

DAN P

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having owned 2 2wd saffs i would get the focus went in my mates daves the other night running stg 1 ?? 14 psi and went well felt nice to

R4N SS

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my cossie never had any starting issues in the 5 years i owned it - oh wait, there was one issue i had a few weeks after i bought it and that was the map sensor failing so not at all bad as long as they are looked after.

FRS is nice but it just doesnt appeal to me as they dont have that special character that the cossie has. Also if you look at the motorsport history it kinda pisses all over the FRS

Nath

Out of curiosity, how much is car tax for the FRS?

gingeRS

must just be mine then....other than that....great car!

Nath

Guilty of dragging this back up as I'm thinking of getting a FRS to use for the odd weekend.

For those that own a modded one, as that's what I'll be looking for, what sort of cost and how reliable are they. What are good mods to have, etc. Also what are they like on insurance and the cost to tax. Aren't they £400 a year plus?

Prefer the original wheels as well as after markets make it look like a look-a-like and not a real. Expensive to rebuild, engines, boxes, diffs?

SteveB

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£245 a year tax...

I've had mine 5 months now and done 3000 miles, hasn't used a drop of oil etc

Running abour 330bhp/370lbft and it's very lively.

No more expensive to rebuild than a Cossie, boxes are pretty much bullet proof even at bhp running upto 400bhp...


Steve

Nath

So I'd want a 330bhp'ish onwards. Thanks for that Steve

R4N SS

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yep - my old one defo was not reliable - in fact im surprised as a cossie owner yourself you think they are all unreliable

The only 2 times my car didnt start in the 6 odd years that car was on the road was when a map sensor failed and the other was when the engine failed

R4N SS

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NAth - cossies are cheaper to insure and tax at your old age