dingla rs

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wasn't what i fort it would be 2wd standerd one owner from new 47thousand mile on clock loads lag not much power ,new i shuda bought a focus rs instead building a focos

scottyrs

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you need to have a go in 350-400bhp cossie lol my first one is and i love it quickest thing ive been in

dingla rs

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yer i knw what your saying, mates focus has 310 brake and i love it ,cossie was all standerd so drive wasn't good felt old if you get me .sure a good
400brake one be great

Gazzonator

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As standard Cossies are shit slow!!!

As stated above, you need to go in one with a bit more power!

I bought my 4x4 saph when it was standard and going from a standardish Fiesta RST, I was expecting it to be miles quicker. Wrong!!! I nearly turned back to go and get my money back!!! Lol!

scottyrs

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i like it but tbh im already thinking of changing to mk1 focus rs or simillar sick to death of worrying werever i leave it ect and people keep driving past my house looking at it ect! think id be gutted if it did go tho

Rax

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You being serious ?
I thought everyone knew they were pants as standard.In years gone by when we had a car dealership I have been in quite a few from brand spanker standards to 500 ish modified ones.
Simple mods /greens and so on transform them immensely and turn them into totally different cars imo.
Please tell me you are taking the piss after that Focos build you are selling.I feel like a foolish twat now because I have had beer

m4tt274

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you started to build a cosworth focus without EVER driving a cosworth powered car?.. really?

200 bhp is quick enough to kill you very quickly but i know what u mean about them being abit of a let down standard.

dingla rs

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yer im building one and never driven a cossie i just love the cossie motor . i had a 400 brake scooby cof cof
so not like i never driven anything quick driven evos skylines silvias supra as work at place
that imports them

Rax

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The thing is for me,nothing gives you a kick up the arse like a 2wd Cosworth,especially a quick one.Yep they can be laggy as fook especially in the early days but when they come on boost its grin factor 10 for me and always has been from the first time out in a crystal blue e plate back in 88.I must point out I was 15yrs old @ that time but even now mine is only 310 but still gives me a smile (for an old boat)

james kiely

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standard cossies were quick when they came out in the 80,s when their was nought else ,you really need stage 3 now to compare it with similar machinery like the evos etc.sounds like the cossie you were in may need a tune up

hitchwest

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i have never driven a standard 1 and owned a cossie for nearly 5 yrs but i can imagine that those little turbos are not much fun unless you stick a set of greens up 1

ASHCOSSIE

greens and 2 bar lol

dingla rs

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lads redoing engine over winter i think spent 4 grand restoring it new quaters wings doors bonnet front panel ,brakes shocks bearings. top end rebuild. loads other bits ,been stood since 89 in a barn ,i gota paint it in winter as he done crap job

billybigspuds

i know that one, 8 years ago i spent 10k on a stg 1 escort cossie small turbo on maybe 17psi, i was gutted to fuck, but tuned there awesome, however the looks of the car and from others made up for it


you have to tune them well

go in a 300 bhp one and you will grin nicely

CossieRich

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What did you expect from a standard 20+ year old car? For it to drive like a new tdci or something You have a lot to learn if you think the t3 turbo is laggy. I expect you are getting confused by lack of boost rather than lag. There will be no kick in the back and lurching forward at warp speed with the standard 9psi or whatever shit value it is lol

EssexMikeSi

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ive never driven one either. Ive been in a couple but that was a few years back now. Only time ive been in a escort cossie was when i was 15 doin work experience at local ford dealer, that was 12yrs ago now!

Bullett

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standrard they are what they are,old and slow..but 350 upward and you can happily compare to the cars around the same power now.i'd rather a 350 saff than a 300+focus all day long. fwd doesnt do much for me. i'd rather 4x4 or rwd

EssexMikeSi

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i keep looking at that standard flint grey 4x4 in the for sale section. Hmmmm

massivewangers

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At the end of the day, it is a very old car now, and technology has moved on hugely now. Modern cars are getting so quick really.

So by today's standards, it perhaps isn't as amazing, but back then, it was very impressive compared to a lot of things.

It does make me laugh though, I think people on here are so blinded by all the big numbers floating about, that perhaps some perspective is lost.

A car that does 0-60 in 6.something seconds and 150mph is not "slow" at all, not even close! A 1.4 Escort that does 0-60 in nearly 14 seconds and 105mph is slow, or one of those Nissan people carriers that does it in over 20 seconds, THAT'S SLOW!!!!

Mike C

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Too many "lame" turbocharged cars on the market these days, so people are more used to that sort of thing.

As others have said though, the Cosworth is still hugely respected and sought-after because of its potential, not what it's got out of the box.

Try one with 500bhp+ or even just a stage 3.

LHD220Turbo

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You were disappointed by a motor that was built in the 1980's, with a t3 turbo boosting at standard pressure? hope your kidding!?

what were you expecting? to be pinned to your seat?

Csm

It probably want running its potential standard output and needs a good service and setup checkover if its such low miles and never used.

Anthing thats slower than what you have had before will feel a let down even when in reality there still quick

My bro bought a scooby turbo 2000, 220 brake os something, i drove it and was let down big time but thats because i have previously owned a stage 3 saph with all the right bits, scooby is still a quick car at the end of the day just doesnt give you the raw feel that bigger bhp/torque does

too many number chasers rather than nice and reliable old school headturners now a days

R4N SS

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stardard they are proper shit as are standard rst's.

need to modify them to get the most

m4tt274

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standard RSt is only 132 Bhp and 130 something ft/ib, most derv hatches have that these days
but somehow they just arent the same

martysmartie

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They are certainly not slow, 0-60 in 6 seconds and 150MPH is still fast even by todays standards you would need a modern sports saloon to stick with it, I think you are comparing the drive ability to that of a modern car, the lag is classic of any 80's turbo charged car and standard boost is only 10PSI.

Don't forget the power they have as standard is in a detuned state.

Same applies to RSTS, car's are becoming increasingly more powerful as time moves ahead but for there day the power was very respectable and even these are quite nippy as standard today.

Martin

Benni

The first one I went in was 380bhp and it was very fast.

Benni.

Nash

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I drove around in my 3dr at standard power when o took the greens off, i still found it a giggle and enjoyed driving it still. The thing was loads more fun on greens though tbh.

Glenn_

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Mine isnt the fastest car in the world n never will be but its quick enough for me. If i ever see you at one of my meets i will take you out in mine. Ive got c dyno graph from years ago and it was 305bhp. Ive been in a 400 bhp saff 4x4 and that was very very quick.

COLEYST200

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As said as standerd there shit my 3dr is about 380bhp which im very happy with and its very tail happy . And not so long back i rebilt a yb for a mates saff which its running standerd well to say when i drove i could of read the paper between gears is a under statment

gazdon

xr4x4 2.9 is proberly faster not sure tho.

COCHYN

FIRST ADVICE....IGNORE EVERYTHING YOU'VE JUST EXPERIENCED!!!

Dingle, I told you to meet up with me at the next show i.e. Ford Fair to have a spin in mine. Next show, I'll let you drive mine o.k.? Just expect the unexpected and you'll be very happy and surprised

I love the Focus RS, but its a Fiat Panda compared to a FoCos

Csm

Now your being silly

jameswrx

How can you love an engine you've never experienced? Lol

Be interested to see how much of it's original power your mates car is making, wouldn't mind sticking a tenner on it being a lot less than 200bhp if nothing's ever been touched.

I went in my 1st cossie (2wd saph) when I was 18 (15 years ago) my best mate was driving and it was a customers car he was working on! It felt and sounded spine tingling back then to me, still remember the smell of the leather and the motor revving hard. It made a lasting impression on me and I vowed to own a cosworth one day.

You do seem to get good and bad ones, I had a STD 2wd that was shite slow. I stage 1'd it and it was still pretty poor to be honest but I'd imagine it wasn't in the greatest health! I had a stage 1 4wd a year or so after and it was quite nippy, it just seemed to beg to do 150mph (on the clocks). My mate bought a really fast one and totally pissed on my bonfire though lol.

I'd still love a 3 door at some time but not sure I want to spoil my memory of my old cossies.

dingla rs

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iv never driven a cossie before that one ,iv been in one before mk2 escort cossie so yes iv experianced a cossie engine

rs_traynor

i wanna sell my scooby type r and get a 2wd cossie

gazdon

im a silly boy

Glenn_

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Good lad. If you do just remember they are old cars with old technology.

m4tt274

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there about 150bhp so not quite. but one with a 24v in is about as quick as a standard YB. around the 220bhp mark without lag (y)

Rsmat

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cosworth`s rule....so do focus rs`s!!!

andy escos

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your not alone andy i never been in a cossy until i actually built my escort you will not have any regrets as long as you chip it to 360 before you drive it