why risk an engine for a cheap turbo? makes no sense to me in the slightest

 

dont bother, i had 2 on my c20let engine and both have blown there seals....all be it the shafts are fine, boosts hard etc but the seals are like plastic lol last 2months max.

 

They seem strong enough in most cases, know of a few holding decent power - However they're running oil restrictors to stop the seals going.

 

i think there is something in that, like i said the three i know of are fine. although i think it would be rare for a turbo failier to destroy an engine, allthough not imposible, but then there are a lot of people out there breaking a lot of other things through neglect etc.

 

my cosworth BOA engine cost 200 quid, and my turbo was 150 quid, id rather risk it than spend a grand on the equivelent garret. its all relative, you may wish to spend a grand on a turbo for your 3000 quid YB engine and thats perfectly ok, horses for courses. im not after daft power figures just a quick car that is driveable and torquey.

 

i bought a TD05 turbo off ebay and was a silly price, came all the way from the USA and as far as i now is still going strong, it also had warranty

andy

 

forgot to say i would recomend buying secondhand off peeps from this forum..lol..

andy

 

why not back up these claims with some links etc?


ive bought chinese stuff and its always shite, phone covers etc are fine and dandy but owt else turns out shit and you only get refunded if you post back signed for (fuckin expensive, moreso than the product cost)

link to the turbos you say are good

 

Ace, i think the bigger ones are hardier and stronger, its only small ones like t28, ko3s, vauxhaul ones ect ive heard of failures. The t3, t34 (same cartridge) and your td05 seem to be fine.

 

yeah and the likelyhood is the turbo will shit itself, may destroy your engine and then you have to buy another BOA engine & another Ł150 turbo, so that's Ł350....where do you draw the line with the cheap turbo's? after you've blown up 10 engines???

 

how can i give you a link to my life? it is my own personal hands on experience i write from, not internet discussions, so sorry cant help you there. and if you read the thread i have been corrected, most of the turbos are Brazilian, same place garrets are made! search "new t3t4 turbo" on ebay mate, they retail at about 200 quid.

 

so who is a recomended decent turbo supplier then?

 

it just wont happen though, the engine and turbo will be fine. as ive said ive used the stuff before, people in the states use this stuff all the time with no issues, you dont have to spend a fortune to go fast.

 

so, the point of this thread was?????

 

depends how much money you want to spend! ive always found ebay to be fine, there are hundreds on there, all made by the same people.

 

why have both of mine been shit then??

 

to ask people who have had real life experience of the cheap turbos avalible, their opinions, some good some bad and some people who like to slate things they have never tried!

 

for what reason were they shit? i am interested in what went wrong, thanks.

 

well, i gave you my OPINION, and you said so its kinda of clear you dont want anybodys opinion!

 

just re read your post sorry, as i mentioned the smaller turbos dont seem to be as strong, also how long ago was this? the quality has improved greatly recently.

 

how can you have an accurate opinion if you have never used one of these turbos

 

where did i say id never used one?

 

You seem to have made this thread to try and make an argument, and then stick up for ebay turbos. Are you a seller of said ebay turbos?

 

exactly what i was thinking!

 

I would trust James at Motorsport Developments view the turbos are rubbish as sure he might have seen one or two

 

Chaffe,

They are the best turbo's you can buy. They will last for thousands or miles at 4 bar of boost. They have a 5 year warranty even if you run the turbo dry of oil. Any engine damage caused by a broken turbo WILL be covered by the slanty eyed ones.

I hope that is the answer you were looking for and you are now confident of buying a cheap ebay turbo

 

me thinks the OP is a grade a mongtard

 

tut tut mr chaffy! but on a serious note im pals with this neep and i can vouch for all 3 turbos that hes been talking about as ive owned both the cars with the turbos bolted onto them!! and i also know the 3rd engine and the turbos are all fine but tbh i wouldnt go and buy one!

 

i paid 300 for a t34 why would i buy a not got a que turbo off ebay? thats my 2 pea,s worth

 

buy cheap, buy twice

 

buy nice or buy twice!!

 

i have a t304 hybrid turbo and a 50mm external w/gate both i bought off ebay from the states. the quality of the turbo is spot on, ive striped it down an inspected it an it looks fine. the castings are in my eyes finnished off better than some other brand named turbos ive had.its runnin on my yb an seems fine and has run 30 psi with no dramas(so far) i had to change springs in the w/gate to make the boost adjustable fron 10 psi instead of 20!. only thing i have noticed is when the car has been sat tickin over for a few mins an you rev it i get a puff of smoke from the exhaust every now an then! sounds like i could do with a restrickter? anyone no were to get one from???. for a cheep shite turbo its not doin to bad so far....time an thrash will tell thow

 

i can machine you one uo out of brass if you send me the sizes, as i work in a machine shop glad to hear your sucess with the turbos also. it seems people are affraid of the unknown.

 

sarcasm is the lowest form of whit, if you have nothing constructive to say then say nothing, and if you read the thread properly you would understand that brazilians dont have "slanty" eyes. And i was always confident about eBay turbos, if this thread doesnt interest you then dont post! otherwise it is you who is being argumental no?

 

cheers mate, erm technicaly you did by two lol.

 

yes, but you only just found via this thread that some of the cheap turbos are produced in Brazil and now you go on like you knew it all the time

 

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Originally Posted by chaffe

im not that clever yet mate, any of the new chinese ones though, they are all the same im sure

May i point out the bit on bold. It is you who mentioned Chinese not me. I never said anyone was being argumentative. You did

 

yes i did, but i was corrected, i had a squint at your cos thread, looks nice, seems like you have spent a lot of money, this thread isnt really directed at yourself, more towards budjet builds/ diy tuners, good luck with the rest of you saff project though

 

Chaffe,

my saff is budget spec, big power hence why i came on this thread. Ok my saff was a test bed engine for MAD with the vi-pec and big power from a non-ported head so more costly than the normal DIY build I would advise you to go to a proper turbo company. My sarcasm above was to try and get you thinking properly. Hope all goes well with yours mate

 

TBH if you want a cheap turbo for your BOA lump, why not just use a secondhand T3 from a cossie?
Will do 300bhp no drama, cheap to rebuild, readily available.

Given the choice between a 150 quid ebay turbo and a 150 quid secondhand garrett, id take the garrett everytime!