Police already being slated in Mout investigation!!
13-07-2010, 09:08 PM
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Police already being slated in Mout investigation!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10615302.stm
i wonder how long until other papers jump on the bandwagon and blame the police for his shooting??
i wonder how long until other papers jump on the bandwagon and blame the police for his shooting??
13-07-2010, 09:10 PM
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i saw a bit on the c4 news about it earlier. ffs, the bloke was a nutter on the rampage - who cares how he was stopped? the police need to be a proper force, not pansy about being a service. they need to kick arse and keep us all in check.
13-07-2010, 09:11 PM
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Its always the same when there is any death these days... The media forget the people who do the killing and blame the authorities.
He wanted to take his own life ! AT least we wont waste cash keeping him in prison !
He wanted to take his own life ! AT least we wont waste cash keeping him in prison !
13-07-2010, 09:18 PM
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i cant believe how much sympathy moaty is getting from the public
at the end of the day the guy knew what he was doing,he planned to go out and murder in cold blood its not like it was just a spur of the moment gone off his head kind of thing
at the end of the day the guy knew what he was doing,he planned to go out and murder in cold blood its not like it was just a spur of the moment gone off his head kind of thing
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13-07-2010, 09:42 PM
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13-07-2010, 09:43 PM
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They should have shot the cunt in the head as soon as they got there to save tax money sat outside talking him down. Or better still just shot the arm with the gun off so he would have to spend the rest of his life in prison instead of getting out the easy way!
13-07-2010, 10:21 PM
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the only downfall moat made was shooting the new boyfriend and the poor cop he should have just shot the girfriend in the fanny!!!
i know a guy who did the same after finding out his wife was shagging someone else he walked home into the kitchen and gave her both barrell`s in the fanny then reloaded and took his own life.
i know a guy who did the same after finding out his wife was shagging someone else he walked home into the kitchen and gave her both barrell`s in the fanny then reloaded and took his own life.
13-07-2010, 10:33 PM
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or shoot him in the arm (hospital bill's = "tax money") then keep him in prison for the rest of his life (prison = "tax money")!
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13-07-2010, 10:59 PM
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Yeah why waste tax money on the twat but then on the other hand it would be good to see him suffer so why not!. By the way why dont u stroll the fuck on if u dont like my post dont fucking read it
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13-07-2010, 11:00 PM
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You seem to use this word chavvy quite often and to me there is no such thing as a 'wannabe' gangster, you either are or you aren't period.
imo opinion its high time five o took some responsability for their actions as they don't always get things right and have fucked up on more than 1 ocassion, this case aside but two that spring to my mind is
Rachel Nickel on wimbledon common, five o hounded an innocent man while the real person responsible went on to kill a young mother and her child, were the police held responsible for that....................NO they fucking were not, totally fucked that one up pigs nice 1
John Charles De menezes, shot by hyped up dirty harry pigs and then the officer in charge cresseda dick (appropriate name) goes on to get a promotion, good call again piggies nice 1
week in week out five o, jiff people, beat people up and hurt people and are they ever held responsible NO they not, high time they are imo
Wake up and smell the coffee Warren FFS
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13-07-2010, 11:08 PM
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13-07-2010, 11:09 PM
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You seem to use this word chavvy quite often and to me there is no such thing as a 'wannabe' gangster, you either are or you aren't period.
imo opinion its high time five o took some responsability for their actions as they don't always get things right and have fucked up on more than 1 ocassion, this case aside but two that spring to my mind is
Rachel Nickel on wimbledon common, five o hounded an innocent man while the real person responsible went on to kill a young mother and her child, were the police held responsible for that....................NO they fucking were not, totally fucked that one up pigs nice 1
John Charles De menezes, shot by hyped up dirty harry pigs and then the officer in charge cresseda dick (appropriate name) goes on to get a promotion, good call again piggies nice 1
week in week out five o, jiff people, beat people up and hurt people and are they ever held responsible NO they not, high time they are imo
Wake up and smell the coffee Warren FFS
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imo opinion its high time five o took some responsability for their actions as they don't always get things right and have fucked up on more than 1 ocassion, this case aside but two that spring to my mind is
Rachel Nickel on wimbledon common, five o hounded an innocent man while the real person responsible went on to kill a young mother and her child, were the police held responsible for that....................NO they fucking were not, totally fucked that one up pigs nice 1
John Charles De menezes, shot by hyped up dirty harry pigs and then the officer in charge cresseda dick (appropriate name) goes on to get a promotion, good call again piggies nice 1
week in week out five o, jiff people, beat people up and hurt people and are they ever held responsible NO they not, high time they are imo
Wake up and smell the coffee Warren FFS
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13-07-2010, 11:13 PM
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O my god im saying it in too minds u fool hypotheticaly as in it was a waste of money and they should have shot him but then on the other hand he should not of been given the chance to take the easy way out do u now understand?. In a way yes im contradicting myself but as i say its just two different ideas!
13-07-2010, 11:15 PM
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Should have popped the cunt in the head as soon as they found him, no messing about.
I'm no great fan of the police, but being firearm trained and knowing the pressure they can be under, personally as soon as I had the legal chance I would have wasted the cunt. Police did everything they could to let him throw his weapon down and give himself up, but he took the cowards way out, after shooting an unarmed woman and PC, and killing an unarmed man.
It is a true reflection on the society we live in when 18,000 scummy cunts sign up on facebook to the "Mout is a hero" page......
Since when is a roid' raging unhinged murder a hero? It seems that being a "gangsta" is "hard" and "cool" these days, sad times.... 99.9% of the scum who rob/rape/assult and kill are nothing more than cowards, who would shit themselves at any form of resistance.....
If you really want to see bravery, look at the marines/para's etc that go out in Afghanistan every day for a pittance, KNOWING full-well that they WILL be shot at and blown up, yet still go out to try to better the country and in turn better this country..
I'm no great fan of the police, but being firearm trained and knowing the pressure they can be under, personally as soon as I had the legal chance I would have wasted the cunt. Police did everything they could to let him throw his weapon down and give himself up, but he took the cowards way out, after shooting an unarmed woman and PC, and killing an unarmed man.
It is a true reflection on the society we live in when 18,000 scummy cunts sign up on facebook to the "Mout is a hero" page......
Since when is a roid' raging unhinged murder a hero? It seems that being a "gangsta" is "hard" and "cool" these days, sad times.... 99.9% of the scum who rob/rape/assult and kill are nothing more than cowards, who would shit themselves at any form of resistance.....
If you really want to see bravery, look at the marines/para's etc that go out in Afghanistan every day for a pittance, KNOWING full-well that they WILL be shot at and blown up, yet still go out to try to better the country and in turn better this country..
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13-07-2010, 11:25 PM
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[quote=RWD_cossie_wil;4997239]Should have popped the cunt in the head as soon as they found him, no messing about.
I'm no great fan of the police, but being firearm trained and knowing the pressure they can be under, personally as soon as I had the legal chance I would have wasted the cunt. Police did everything they could to let him throw his weapon down and give himself up, but he took the cowards way out, after shooting an unarmed woman and PC, and killing an unarmed man.
It is a true reflection on the society we live in when 18,000 scummy cunts sign up on facebook to the "Mout is a hero" page......
Since when is a roid' raging unhinged murder a hero? It seems that being a "gangsta" is "hard" and "cool" these days, sad times.... 99.9% of the scum who rob/rape/assult and kill are nothing more than cowards, who would shit themselves at any form of resistance.....
If you really want to see bravery, look at the marines/para's etc that go out in Afghanistan every day for a pittance, KNOWING full-well that they WILL be shot at and blown up, yet still go out to try to better the country and in turn better this country..[/quote]
to right mate thats what gets my back up round where i live when i see all the wanna be gangsters...they would shit themselves at the compromise`s ive been in and what ive had to do in the 9yrs i spend with 2 para...fooking makes my piss boil.
I'm no great fan of the police, but being firearm trained and knowing the pressure they can be under, personally as soon as I had the legal chance I would have wasted the cunt. Police did everything they could to let him throw his weapon down and give himself up, but he took the cowards way out, after shooting an unarmed woman and PC, and killing an unarmed man.
It is a true reflection on the society we live in when 18,000 scummy cunts sign up on facebook to the "Mout is a hero" page......
Since when is a roid' raging unhinged murder a hero? It seems that being a "gangsta" is "hard" and "cool" these days, sad times.... 99.9% of the scum who rob/rape/assult and kill are nothing more than cowards, who would shit themselves at any form of resistance.....
If you really want to see bravery, look at the marines/para's etc that go out in Afghanistan every day for a pittance, KNOWING full-well that they WILL be shot at and blown up, yet still go out to try to better the country and in turn better this country..[/quote]
to right mate thats what gets my back up round where i live when i see all the wanna be gangsters...they would shit themselves at the compromise`s ive been in and what ive had to do in the 9yrs i spend with 2 para...fooking makes my piss boil.
14-07-2010, 02:04 AM
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And of course theres "wannabe" gangsters
they are people who pretend to act like gangsters to try and be hard but in reality are fucking pussies and usually nothing more than petty thieves. Theres thousands of these wannabes all over the country the intel was fucking shite. I dont blame the officers who pulled the trigger. Id of done the same thing as would every other armed police/armed forces member faced with the same situation as it was within the Rules of engagement and guidance in force on dealing with suicide bombers.its the people in charge who should have got slated for it. although as with many fuck ups it was no one persons individual fault but a series of fuck ups by lots of people that led to the wrong decision being made.
i bet criminal scum beat and hurt people probably thousands of times more often than the police beat innocent people up.
And dont talk fucking bullshit that the police are never held accountable. plenty of corrupt cops have gone down over the years.
oh and what is it pretty much every small time scum bag/criminal whinges about to his mates after getting nicked???? oh yeah they all plead they got "fitted up" or "beat up". in reality did they fuck!! its just fashionable to slate the police. Plus they dont want to admit responsibility for their own actions.
sure, im not saying it doesnt happen occasionally but its rarer than you make out i suspect.
im sorry but if some cunt wants to resist arrest or gets lippy when hammered to the cops then gets nicked under public order then its THEIR OWN FUCKING FAULT when they get their face rammed in the tarmac for giving out shit in the first place.
you kick off at the police and resist then you deserve a bit of a pasting.
14-07-2010, 02:10 AM
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The CHAV cunts round my way heckled me and a few others walking back from november ceremonies at the town centres war memorial saying what have we ever done for them etc.. would so love to drag thier fucking arses to a hell hole and watch them poo their pants and scream "mummy".
And coming from Chip with his love for the police
14-07-2010, 07:42 AM
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If you really want to see bravery, look at the marines/para's etc that go out in Afghanistan every day for a pittance, KNOWING full-well that they WILL be shot at and blown up, yet still go out to try to better the country and in turn better this country..[/quote]
The above is not bravery, that's stupidity....
The above is not bravery, that's stupidity....
14-07-2010, 08:26 AM
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you seem to have the same toffee nosed attitude of the people that run this cuntry pal,
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14-07-2010, 08:38 AM
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The above is not bravery, that's stupidity.....
14-07-2010, 08:53 AM
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Rite, i can understand the common consensus that he was a raging lunatic, and deserved to die, BUT, one, he had already said BEFORE he was released from prison what he was going to do, so the police/authorities were forewarned, two, the police admit shooting him with shotgun tasers, which currently have NOT been authorised by the home office for use, three, there a lot more powerful and work in a different way to handheld tasers, four, anyone who has seen someone shot with a normal taser, will know you have spasms and could therefor have involuntarily caused him to pull the trigger, and five, northumbria police use the taser more than ANY other police force in the UK.
14-07-2010, 08:57 AM
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two, the police admit shooting him with shotgun tasers, which currently have NOT been authorised by the home office for use
three, there a lot more powerful and work in a different way to handheld tasers, four, anyone who has seen someone shot with a normal taser, will know you have spasms and could therefor have involuntarily caused him to pull the trigger, and five, northumbria police use the taser more than ANY other police force in the UK.
14-07-2010, 09:12 AM
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ultimately their resources are finite and they cant possible act on every single ex con who says he has a grudge against a lover or a copper, they would have to follow about 80% of people released from prison!
If the use of those weapons is illegal, then whoever equipped the coppers with them should be prosecuted for doing so, but i suspect that isnt the case.
tough shit, if you dont want to be at risk of killing yourself by accident dont kill people and then sit there pointing a shotgun at your head!
If the use of those weapons is illegal, then whoever equipped the coppers with them should be prosecuted for doing so, but i suspect that isnt the case.
tough shit, if you dont want to be at risk of killing yourself by accident dont kill people and then sit there pointing a shotgun at your head!
Chip, this is britain, not america. we dont have the death penalty, nor does every plod carry a gun, so like it or lump, the police have to be investigated, and held responsible, EVERYTIME a firearm is used, to discover IF they contributed to injuring/killing the person.
There are plenty of people already in prison, that if by peoples opinion on here, should have been 'blown away', rapists, serial killers, peodophiles, all as bad, if not worse, than what an evidently mentally unstable moat did, but, by the laws of the land, non of them 'deserve' to die, your held accountable for your actions, sent to trial, and punished by a prison sentence, we dont make the rules, but thats what they are.
14-07-2010, 09:16 AM
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I agree that the use of potentially deadly force by the police should be investigated, I just believe in this case the investigation will yield that the officers in question did nothing wrong, and I believe it will be correct in doing so.
There are plenty of people already in prison, that if by peoples opinion on here, should have been 'blown away', rapists, serial killers, peodophiles, all as bad, if not worse, than what an evidently mentally unstable moat did, but, by the laws of the land, non of them 'deserve' to die, your held accountable for your actions, sent to trial, and punished by a prison sentence, we dont make the rules, but thats what they are.
The police spent 6 hours IIRC negotiating with him before they decided to open fire with a weapon that they felt at least gave him a chance of survival, its not like it was a spur of the moment thing and its not like they intentionally used deadly force, what they did was a risk, but so would not have doing it been.
14-07-2010, 09:30 AM
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If the use of those weapons is illegal, then whoever equipped the coppers with them should be prosecuted for doing so, but i suspect that isnt the case.
Yeah that would work wouldent it lol prosecut the police for going after a mad man with a gun who has shot people and said he will shot others aswell with guns them selfs so they can stop him what a stupid thing to say Tasers ok,ed or not they took him out which needed doing!
Yeah that would work wouldent it lol prosecut the police for going after a mad man with a gun who has shot people and said he will shot others aswell with guns them selfs so they can stop him what a stupid thing to say
Tasers ok,ed or not they took him out which needed doing!
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14-07-2010, 09:32 AM
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i can appreciate what your saying chip, and agree to a certain extent, but the reason there is an investigation everytime a firearm is deployed by the police, is to establish if they were trigger happy, and acted within the law/rules. im sure if they acted within the law/rules, there wont be a problem, but if they didnt, they will be held accountable. the last thing we need is our police force turning into a pack of trigger happy cunts like the americans.
14-07-2010, 09:35 AM
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If the use of those weapons is illegal, then whoever equipped the coppers with them should be prosecuted for doing so, but i suspect that isnt the case.
But like I have said already, im sure they wont have made an error that stupid anyway, if they have however, then yes there should be a prosecution, we cant be seen to make rules then not stick to them ourselves.
14-07-2010, 09:36 AM
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i can appreciate what your saying chip, and agree to a certain extent, but the reason there is an investigation everytime a firearm is deployed by the police, is to establish if they were trigger happy, and acted within the law/rules. im sure if they acted within the law/rules, there wont be a problem, but if they didnt, they will be held accountable. the last thing we need is our police force turning into a pack of trigger happy cunts like the americans.
I just think it should and will find them to be innocent of any wrong doing.
IMHO its very obvious who the person in the wrong was.