peteh

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SIERRA-SA...item3caedc29d7

just spotted this, looks well, could it be converted to manual?

paul16v

IIRC the auto saphs were converted manual cars done buy a dealer not actually factory built cars anyway so should be simple to convert them back with the correct parts.

rog

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Don't see why you couldn't convert it back.As said above, it was an option from a dear, can't remember which one, i think they only sold about 5 in total.

ZetecNology

Would it not be worth more then in the future as is, rareity factor?

Or not, just because autos are shite?

Zetec_mk4_XR3i

wonder how long the box would last with 400 bhp

The Crocodile Hunter

Wonder how long it would last with 204bhp??

It must be shite!!

martysmartie

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Saw this, I believe it must have been converted as AFAIK auto was never even considered from the factory.

Martin

mk2 cossie

auto box is ok up to 250bhp fairly easily, as i believe the converted saphs used the gearbox from the granada 24v with a different bellhousing


would be quite good point to point i would imagine, as the turbo is constantly spinning up with the lack of lifting off for gear changes

Joshy

nothing a sequential gearbox with a flat shifting ECU cant sort

martysmartie

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Auto boxes are quite strong anyway, the Borg Warner 35 being one such example this was introduced with the V8 P6 initially as they had no manual box that could cope with the torque as this is what kills not power!

Martin

tabetha

The BG35 is not a particularly strong box, it was chosen for it's cheapness, nothing more.
The cossie auto uses the std sierra auto box, ie the A4LD, which is a C3 with a 4th gear set added, it's a very problematic box as std, made much worse by FORD Europe not including the draughted air the box was designed with in mind, it simply runs way too hot.
In the us cars where this box was used they all used draughted air cooling as well as a better cooler, the o/d is particularly trouble some, the former C3(3 speed) was much stronger/better for performance, that said there is a 850 BHP cossie AUTOMATIC on the uk roads, and he does 1/4 mile stuff all the time, but not a A4LD.
The A4LD can be modded to effectively give it 2 direct lock up gears, 3+4, as well as convertor slip in 3+4.
I used to cook my foot on any long drive with my sierra auto, constantly had to adjust brake bands, as they wear and break so often, otherwise the freewheel function didn't work.
Got that hot I used to have to stop to cool my foot down, till I fitted the much needed winnebego air fluid cooler in front of main rad, was the size of the main rad, but jesus what a difference.

tabetha

Jay,

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that car has been doing the rounds for ages ! my mate looked at and said it wasnt a nice car at all

S7EVO

Great, a motability Cosworth, wonder if it comes complete with the usual heavy stainage on the drivers seat.

Glenn_

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Ive seen plenty of pics of them but ive never seen one in the flesh.

RSLUBBY

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Been on ebay loads of times over 6 months look c,lean but who knows if clean surlry worth more manual as who wants and auto apart from someone with auto only licence