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Old 23-06-2010 | 10:30 PM
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This is solely from my point of view. I'm not an England "hater" as you would put it as I do show support for them when they do play but this is what really gets up my goat and perhaps makes the whole affair a bit "ill-disposed" if you like..

1) England have very talented INDIVIDUALS but as a TEAM they don't seem to have got it quite right yet. Until they do, I would very kindly like to ask all the commentators especially to please shut the fuck up, tell it like it is, and not over hype it.

2) For such high hopes, an easy group, and the massive talent and quality they seem to have, they've played 2 poor games and today's game against Slovenia to my mind was an average performance. Who here believes England actually played brilliantly against Slovenia? Much better by all accounts but there is still more to come I believe from this squad. We haven't seen the best of England yet and until we do is when I would like to hear all the wonderful things said about them but the commentators because right now it just isn't true.y

3) I am a British born and raised Greek Cypriot and my support is obviously for the Greek national team and also the Cypriot national team (my true home) but I do show support for England when they play.

I really do believe the media and the hype are to blame for all of this. They have way way over hyped it and thus more pressure and onus on England to perform and all the more banter on the Internet

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Old 23-06-2010 | 10:31 PM
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Jay you are missing my point if you dont like football that is fair enough
if you want England to lose and go out because you fed up of the whole
media hype is a valid reason !! did you go out of your way to text a radio
show go on facebook etc etc i dont know but i doubt it !!! just to say you
dont want england to win ........

for example i dont really like tennis but you will get the whole andy murray
(i think thats his name ) media hype going on but i dont care it doesnt
interest me so i wont be bothered by it and I CERTAINLY WONT BE SLAGGING
THE GUY OFF hoping he gets beat by whoever and then gloating about it !!!!
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:32 PM
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lay off the smack ,the fags and the cider and you might start making good footballers again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rant over

Dont get me wrong here, I couldn't give a fuck either way as Im not into football whatesoever, but comments like that ain't going to make us want you's to win So this thread is pointless, delete.
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I know jack-shit about football, but I think I'm right in saying that England have scored ONE goal so far?
No you're not right mate.

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Hardly anything to be proud of really?
We can be proud that we are through, unbeaten and only conceded 1 goal. Depends which angle you wish to take. Even in our worst game, Algeria, we never looked like losing.

Big teams like Spain, Germany have lost. France was in the last final and are out. Italy are in the same position as we were today and they're WORLD CHAMPIONS. Its not all doom and gloom.
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay_
shit i didnt realise this maybe i should play chase me around field with 21 over paid arseholes then jump in the showers with them
Why does football fill you up with hate? im not a football fan but a big world cup fan, its the best skill in a sport all in one tournament surely thats enough to make people who dont normally watch the sport to take interest. Credit where its due, appriciate talent and all that.

Also i cant see the problem everyone has with how much sports people get paid, its not tax money that pays them its the supporters and fans money, if it doesn't go to the players it will go in someones pocket higher up in the business so whats the difference?

no1 boxers get paid upto $15,000 for 36 minutes work, how about that? lol
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by flipper
Jay you are missing my point if you dont like football that is fair enough
if you want England to lose and go out because you fed up of the whole
media hype is a valid reason !! did you go out of your way to text a radio
show go on facebook etc etc i dont know but i doubt it !!! just to say you
dont want england to win ........

for example i dont really like tennis but you will get the whole andy murray
(i think thats his name ) media hype going on but i dont care it doesnt
interest me so i wont be bothered by it and I CERTAINLY WONT BE SLAGGING
THE GUY OFF hoping he gets beat by whoever and then gloating about it !!!!
ok when i was a nipper i loved football when a team of players mattered .Trevor Francis was the first million pound footballer which in effect fucked football then it became a one player money game which took it out of the working class ,also when we was at school there would be coaches from all division one teams scouting for young talent to bring on ! now they just buy a foreign play as its easier to chase titles to get more richies .We get to a world cup scenario and find we just a handful of world class uk players as the other have gone to play for there own country so we are left with injured tired out shit when we could have a abundance of players .

so hence moderen foot ball is crap and just about money
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:44 PM
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I'd love them to loose just so every single media outlet stops banging on about it. I'm sick of hearing about it. The sooner the world cup ends the better, and I don't give a rat's ass who wins.

If you like it, no worries, but there are actually people who don't like football. I'm also at a loss as to why following a bunch of men playing a dull game somehow makes you more patriotic. You can actually be patriotic without liking football.
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:53 PM
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I'd love them to loose just so every single media outlet stops banging on about it. I'm sick of hearing about it. The sooner the world cup ends the better, and I don't give a rat's ass who wins.

If you like it, no worries, but there are actually people who don't like football. I'm also at a loss as to why following a bunch of men playing a dull game somehow makes you more patriotic. You can actually be patriotic without liking football.
I definately see that point of view. I'm not a massive fan of it, but it is nice to watch a few games. Though generally it's been pretty dull so far; no outstanding displays from anyone. I do get sick of all the media hype for sure though.

My point on patriotism (whether you were directly addressing it or not, have my opinion ) was more that at least a big sporting event like this actually allows us to display some pride for being English. That seems almost frowned upon these days. The Welsh, Scots etc just carry on regardless and show immense national pride, and yet if we do it, we seem to get labelled as racist or not being PC. So I think it's nice to see people being allowed to display our national flag and things.

What I do find a bit sad is that our other sporting successes are rarely celebrated. We completely dominate F1 and motorsport in general, but it never gets mentioned especially, when our average football or tennis performances take over TV for weeks on end, yet the fact that we're responsible for a huge percentage of motorsport success just slips away without notice. Perhaps all the teams should be named England F1
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:54 PM
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aww come one people, i bet you'd rather the media was full of celebrities scratching their arses, z list sluts fucking so and so, x factor and oh, big fucking brother.

The world cup is a fun time for everyone to be on the same side for once, have fun watching it, enjoy the atmosphere everywhere while having a few drinks and a regular get together with friends and family, cant think of happier times tbh. let the world cup run forever
Old 23-06-2010 | 10:58 PM
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The WHOLE world dislikes England. You only have yourselves to blame too.

I've seen people abroad go from being weary of me and rude towards me when they think im from England, when i tell them i'm Scottish their attitudes instantly change. Its the truth.
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aww come one people, i bet you'd rather the media was full of celebrities scratching their arses, z list sluts fucking so and so, x factor and oh, big fucking brother.
No, that's shit too. But, there are things other than reality TV, and football.

I can understand why some people don't like the same things I like - but for some unfathomable reason footy fans never seem to understand that not everyone shares their passion.

I've never seen the lure of football, and the sooner the World Cup ends the better.
Old 23-06-2010 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
What I do find a bit sad is that our other sporting successes are rarely celebrated. We completely dominate F1 and motorsport in general, but it never gets mentioned especially, when our average football or tennis performances take over TV for weeks on end, yet the fact that we're responsible for a huge percentage of motorsport success just slips away without notice. Perhaps all the teams should be named England F1
thats because f1 is boring as fuck ,i love motorsport and i allways watch f1 but sadly the build up is actually more exciting than the race more often than not
i usually allways fall asleep during the race tbh
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Originally Posted by cheeky dog
no1 boxers get paid upto $15,000 for 36 minutes work, how about that? lol
I wouldn't do it for a penny less, given the significance of the brain damage risk.

I think the wages that footballers get is so totally disproportionate with what they actually do and it pains me to see dumb-fucks like Ashley Cole and David Beckham, who can't really even string a sentence together between them earning more in a week that I have ever earnt in a year.
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thats because f1 is boring as fuck ,i love motorsport and i allways watch f1 but sadly the build up is actually more exciting than the race more often than not
i usually allways fall asleep during the race tbh
And what about those that think football is boring as fuck? As many people I know do. They still have to put up with it.

All the football fans seem to say we should take pride in our nation and it's sporting achievements, but if you mention another sport; they're not interested

F1 was simply an example. You could be more general given our influence and success in motorsport as a whole. Or there's snooker, with some amazing English players there, but that's boring too of course.

You have to remember; to many people, the thought of spending 90 minutes watching 22 people with the combined IQ of a tent pole chasing a bag of wind around a grass field isn't ever so appealing.
Old 23-06-2010 | 11:17 PM
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gone a little off track boys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the wages in football are obscene however you cant blame the footballers

if someone offered you 100k a week or you was in a position to negotiate yourself a
massive wage by playing 2 employers off against each other would you not ???
Old 23-06-2010 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Coldo
The WHOLE world dislikes England. You only have yourselves to blame too.

I've seen people abroad go from being weary of me and rude towards me when they think im from England, when i tell them i'm Scottish their attitudes instantly change. Its the truth.

Random, ive just come back from egypt and they love us there and our country

The dislike thing like most things in life comes through jealousy, i dont blame you if i lived in a country that had fuck all and was shite then i think i would be bitter towards my neighbours to

next...

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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I wouldn't do it for a penny less, given the significance of the brain damage risk.

I think the wages that footballers get is so totally disproportionate with what they actually do and it pains me to see dumb-fucks like Ashley Cole and David Beckham, who can't really even string a sentence together between them earning more in a week that I have ever earnt in a year.
I think the complete opposite, i love the fact that we live in a world where a man can have the skill and craft of a certain discipline and entertain the world for more money than the academically clever.

trade off:

Play a sport you love for a living and make lots of cash OR get caught in the rat race and live like a beggar.

If anyone of you guys were a footballer you would change your tune.
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
You have to remember; to many people, the thought of spending 90 minutes watching 22 people with the combined IQ of a tent pole chasing a bag of wind around a grass field isn't ever so appealing.
yeah and you have to remember is that it is appealing to the masses so get over it
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Not a football fan as i use to play Ice Hockey as a profession.

I don't take pride in them cos i think they get to cocky and when they don't get what they want, they point fingers.
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People love having something to moan about or take joy in others misfortune. Whether it be sport, or anything.
Usually self defence for their own short comings.
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Originally Posted by Coldo
The WHOLE world dislikes England. You only have yourselves to blame too.

I've seen people abroad go from being weary of me and rude towards me when they think im from England, when i tell them i'm Scottish their attitudes instantly change. Its the truth.
Are you for real???


I feel sorry for you.
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
You have to remember; to many people, the thought of spending 90 minutes watching 22 people with the combined IQ of a tent pole chasing a bag of wind around a grass field isn't ever so appealing.
Frank Lampard has several A levels, which included A's and Astars. Thats more than alot of people I know.

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Originally Posted by Lee1
Are you for real???


I feel sorry for you.
Have had the same thing myself when aboard,the second I told them I'm not english,the attitude changed and I was welcomed with open arms.Its not nice being treated badly because someone mistakes me for being english.Regards,Micky
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Have had the same thing myself when aboard,the second I told them I'm not english,the attitude changed and I was welcomed with open arms.Its not nice being treated badly because someone mistakes me for being english.Regards,Micky
Bollocks. and it's English with an 'E'. It's him iv'e got a problem with not you mate, He always trying to be on the wind up? but he follows an English team? LOL!

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If somebody chooses not to like me because of where i'm from. They are not really worth talking to.
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Originally Posted by skeg
Nail and head hit there mate!!!
nonsense, it is because the scots hate the english, (quite rightly)i might add, as do many countries around the world, nothing to do with football, the scots are not a race who are hated anywhere, the english on the other hand!!!
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nonsense, it is because the scots hate the english, (quite rightly)i might add, as do many countries around the world, nothing to do with football, the scots are not a race who are hated anywhere, the english on the other hand!!!
Who are france playing next?
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dumbass, it is not about football.

england were loathed and despised the world over long before football was invented.
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it means nothing to me that france are a laughing stock.... you,re next football related insult is?
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dumbass, it is not about football.

england were loathed and despised the world over long before football was invented.
LOL ok froggy.
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dumbass, it is not about football.

england were loathed and despised the world over long before football was invented.
Christianity to thank for that one.

You'd think people wouldn't hold a grudge for hundreds of years.....
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LOL ok froggy.
and you wonder why the rest of the world hate the english?
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and you wonder why the rest of the world hate the english?
No mate lol, I don't usually bite on here but tonight pushed me over the edge lol
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and you wonder why the rest of the world hate the english?
the froggy comment is to be expected from these people, they dont know any better.

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the froggy comment is to be expected from these people, they dont know any better.
these people? I hope you dont mean English people. Because that is almost as bad a comment.

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the froggy comment is to be expected from these people, they dont know any better.
THESE people? Have a day off divvy.
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And? I think it's safe to say we've been in more World Cups and Euro's than any of the other UK teams isn't it? And we generally progress further?

So surely that means we have a better national side?

who gives a shit about how many world cups and euros thay have done..

WINNING IS WINNING ENGLAND HAVE NOT DONE THIS SINCE THE 196OS
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dumbass, it is not about football.

england were loathed and despised the world over long before football was invented.
What do you think other countries think about the french then? especially the yanks? eh? clever cunt.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I wouldn't do it for a penny less, given the significance of the brain damage risk.

I think the wages that footballers get is so totally disproportionate with what they actually do and it pains me to see dumb-fucks like Ashley Cole and David Beckham, who can't really even string a sentence together between them earning more in a week that I have ever earnt in a year.
Which begs the question, who is the stupid one then? Typical bitterness and jelousy



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