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Old 07-06-2010, 09:23 PM
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Default Cosworth head work

Juts browsing sites like Burtonpower etc looking at the cost of cosworth tuning etc and came accross the Cylinder head section on Burtons website.

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CNC MACHINING FOR COSWORTH YB TURBO

Other Info: PRICE FOR MACHINING CUSTOMER SUPPLIED BARE HEAD ONLY ON STD VALVE SIZES.

£1094....

Just for that doing? Surely not?

I was thinking to have a head pressure checked and maybe skimmed, then new valve guides and seats recut you were looking at around the 500 quid mark?

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thats why i never buy anything from burton mugoff, had my 2wd head skimmed and pressure tested for 70 quid a few months back not sure about the rest
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Yeah ive had loads of work done on CVH engines at my local machine shop for nothing like that kinda money!!
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Yeah ive had loads of work done on CVH engines at my local machine shop for nothing like that kinda money!!
A YB head is far more work than a cvh head, twice the number of valves (throat) and ports.
Depends what you get for the money, most YB heads will need at least new exhaust valve guides.

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i think burton port and polish them for that price as well as pressure test, skim etc...
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Originally Posted by steveboyslim
A YB head is far more work than a cvh head, twice the number of valves (throat) and ports.
Depends what you get for the money, most YB heads will need at least new exhaust valve guides.

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Yeah i know steve, but surely not that much more work in £££££££
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Originally Posted by botters
i think burton port and polish them for that price as well as pressure test, skim etc...
Maybe its a bad advert then? As it puts me off, whereas if they listed all they did you might think it seemed a good price?
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SCS/NMS/MARK SHED/ an a few others are good when it comes to head work on YBD
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i only say i think mate as like you say its bloody dear otherwise, round my way its £25 pressure test £25 skim £80 plus cost of guides for fitting guides and lapping
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Thats more like it mate!

Another thing. At what stage of tune does headwork become needed?
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i think its only really neccesary for 400bhp and above but it does have benefits for lesser powered cars as well it can give a more responsive engine at any power level so really its personal preference i suppose
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I've seen with my own eyes what a £25 skim does to a cossie head.

AVOID
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Cheers mate
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Originally Posted by Shings
I've seen with my own eyes what a £25 skim does to a cossie head.

AVOID
Jake, I'd never scrimp on anything mate! The machiners local to me though have been there since my Dad was a lad and before and are still going today Says something to me! I'd go there, i as just wondering where the amount comes from
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ask anyone in preston or surrounding areas if they know dave blackburn and then you wont be avoiding a £25 skim trust me the guy is the dogs bollocks ive never known anyone be so meticulous or have so much knowledge about engines, you ask him any question about any engine and he answers you there and then quoting part numbers and everything all of the top of his head, ive used him for 13 years and in that time never had a problem, a comeback or heard a bad word said against him
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Originally Posted by botters
ask anyone in preston or surrounding areas if they know dave blackburn and then you wont be avoiding a £25 skim trust me the guy is the dogs bollocks ive never known anyone be so meticulous or have so much knowledge about engines, you ask him any question about any engine and he answers you there and then quoting part numbers and everything all of the top of his head, ive used him for 13 years and in that time never had a problem, a comeback or heard a bad word said against him
cant beat reputation and experience mate
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
cant beat reputation and experience mate
thats it mate just a shame he cant be bothered doing porting work anymore he said he enjoys the easy life these days and there isnt much demand for it round here shame really he did a cracking job on my 205's head when i was 17!
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Nick waples headwork through SCS like mine m8,do it once do it right.
Old 08-06-2010, 07:33 AM
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Lee,

Mine made 411 at the wheels on a standard ported head. If you are prepared to actually use a turbo for what its designed for, then there is no need for head porting unless you want really high figures. Cam choice is just as important
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as said earlier on by someone nick waples is the man for yb heads
spot on and second to none in terms of quality
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Originally Posted by t4 and greys
as said earlier on by someone nick waples is the man for yb heads
spot on and second to none in terms of quality
Where in the country is he?
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thats the hard part m8,think he lives abroad now iirc,try calling harvey at scs
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Read the front page and that will b enough to use him

http://www.roperdevelopments.co.uk/index.htm

neil roper, ex formula 1 engineer specialising in head work and helped develop the rs200
and half the price of burton.
He did mine and I'm happy with it.
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is the burton add not suggesting that it is just to machine the head to standard condition, ie supplied to them in bare cast condition?
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Brett Simms Motorsport does some stormng heads, based in the new forest, really recommend him
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Cheers for info lads
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Originally Posted by stu21t
Read the front page and that will b enough to use him

http://www.roperdevelopments.co.uk/index.htm

neil roper, ex formula 1 engineer specialising in head work and helped develop the rs200
and half the price of burton.
He did mine and I'm happy with it.
The man!
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Lee,

Mine made 411 at the wheels on a standard ported head. If you are prepared to actually use a turbo for what its designed for, then there is no need for head porting unless you want really high figures. Cam choice is just as important
True there is no NEED at lower levels but even on a bog std cossie engine, can make a world of difference to driveabilty throughout the complete rpm range, for not much money.
The man I use has been doing these 54 years, with verified results on flow rig and engine, and chassis dyno's.
If I only had £300 to spend on engine stuff I'd do the mild porting(as I did) the cossie head is a absolute disaster flow wise, way too shrouded amd small ports.
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